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whatajoke
TPR.....I agree in part but believe that we need to be careful in what we call innuendo. If you are referencing the comment made that "somebody said they saw them at a counseling center" then if somebody did say that I don't think there is anything wrong with exploring that to see if it is true. They did not say they were at a counseling center. Some of these issues need to be explored. If someone told you something it is not wrong to say someone told me. It is wrong to assume it is true if you dont know. This is an open forum and people are at all different places. Some are trying to hang on to their walk with God, some are still walking well, and for some christianity has become disgusting because of people like Tony Cunningham and Mike Villamor. So, I will raise the question. If anyone knows anything about Mike going to a counseling center then speak up. Nothing more was said other than it may have been a possibility. The only person that knows and can judge the credibility of the person who may have made that comment is the person who received it. If my father or wife told me that then I would put a great deal of weight on it being true and would be more likely to speak up about it. I think at this point. With all the destruction and mess Radiant Life has caused in peoples lives and knowing that Mike is a disciple and follower of Tony, all is fair game. I have heard so much that I thought was far fetched that I discovered to be true. Also, might want to check out the meaning of innuendo and not stretch it. I believe wherefromhere was stating a fact and did not have any underliying motives or was trying to hint at something. The fact was that someone told him/her. I doesnt make it true but given the current state of the ship it opens it up to exploration.

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nooneofanyimportence
learning point I woke up thinking about the same thing this morning, and what came to mind is how some cops (some not all) disregard the laws of the road they speed they go through lights I believe the think that since they inforce the law they are the law and are above the law, I think some pastors think that too as a matter of fact Cyndi once stated(I say once becasue thats all I heard her say it) that her and Mike have liberties that the rest of us dont. That puts them above the principals we have to follow. That statement alone is enough to question any prophetic thing she says, becasue if anything the bible says there held into higher acountability because of thier positions. they should be more obiediant more humble less selfseeking more honest more of all the attributes Jesus told us to strive for.

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buddy
We are currently going to Turning Point and I have also wondered if they were getting paid for Teaching Soma as well as full time ministry along with real estate. When do they sleep and spend time as a family? When do they have time to do extra volunteer work they expect their parishioners to do above their jobs? Our full time jobs are 40 hours a week and along with having a child and keeping up with sports activities and church activities we don't have time left to do a second job let alone a third part time job. We also noticed some word of faith activity amongst members and staff. We are very concerned about the direction the church is going and seriously considering departing ways. I thought the Mormons were the only ones with apostles, but I guess I was mistaken we have Mike. I find it very sad to see this happening to a church that has so many good things going for it. I think Mike needs to repent and spill it all out to the congregation and I believe you would see a great revival. Of course if you have been deceived into believing you are right it would be next to impossible to repent for something you believe in and that is why I'm going to start looking for another place to worship that follows my beliefs. Who is protecting the flock from false teaching? Where is the spirit of discernment? Buddy