I remember Christmas trees being a bad thing, strange how things change. I remember pop music being banned too, most worldly things were frowned upon or outright forbidden. My family burned their music collection so it wouldn't go on to harm anyone else. Years later, leaders are into the same music. Why are these things suddenly acceptable? And what else has become acceptable that once wasn't? Scripture is full of advice on how to treat your slaves, “Slaves, be obedient to your human masters with fear and trembling", "Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters", "Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything" etc etc etc, It was Christians who helped abolish slavery, some of their case based on scripture. What changed? And what else is seen as not good in scripture... I'm looking at you, Leviticus 18:22. I find it hard to understand that so many branches of Christianity believe so many different things all based on the same words. Female leaders for example. It's almost as though you can use scripture to justify whatever you like or don't like.
Thanks for the links Littleyellowspider. Stein is really good, her book
is exceptional. She talks at the end of one of the videos (sorry I've not had time to look at everything) about the Milgram experiment and others. Milgram studied obedience and how we do as we're told by people we perceive as having authority - police, doctors, teachers etc. Most people in Milgrams experiments wrestled with their conscience, even got really stressed about it, but they still behaved cruelly towards other humans because they'd been told it was for a good reason. Derren Brown did a similar copy in recent years and got very similar results, you can watch it here.
Stein mentions other research from the same time as Milgram, one of them was Asch's conformity experiment which you can watch here
. A group of people are asked to match line lengths, quite an easy task. If the actors in the group gave the wrong answer, the subject of the experiment goes along with the group and gives the wrong answer too. (75% went along with the wrong answer at least once), even if its obviously wrong. It makes you think.
I'm reminded of the stuff about knitted relationships
and how "you can lose your existing relationships" - Billy Turner asking "do you want this level of pain? Some people can't cope and have had nervous breakdowns." Going along with such damaging things is reckless and irresponsible if this is truly happening.