I had a bit of a back and forth with Pam on my facebook page that was a bit revealing.
I had messaged Pam tons, laying out my story, etc, initially before they showed up here. Pam could not once at any point acknowledge directly any of the abuses of Chris Butler, it took a while to see the pattern, but on my facebook post it came out.
I was showed one of the Chris Butler 1988 insane cult letters and Pam's response was
"I know he was or is bossy and demanding, so are lots of people when they get in positions of power. I mean have you ever read the riders from rock stars? Riders are what is given to event organizers when they do a show, it is a list of requirements, here is a small list (provided link to unrelated diversion article)"
I replied:
"Rama Ranson: Jesus Christ, Pam! You are unbelievable... How much are they paying you? Is it all for a Tulsi Gabbard autograph?
You are the white wash specialist!
You are the whitest of all white washers, you one Haole washa!"
"Chris Butler is a little beyond a crazy rock star.
Rock Stars don't mind control my mother to indoctrinate and brainwash me.
Rock Stars don't order all mothers to not give their asthmatic babies inhalers like my mother did to me
https://flashlightonroaches.wordpress.com/2015/07/06/voice-of-a-victim/Now for fuck's sake, interact with and acknowledge the abuse within the Chris Butler cult instead of your insane diversion tactics."
Pam replied with:
"Rama, seriously WTF? Are YOU the cult leader demanding everyone do as you say, hate who you hate? Where is the whitewash of anything? You just want people to join your gangbang of victimization and hate - sorry if I won't join in, I have better things to think about then whining about some guru who wants only the brown m & m's, like grow up and move on, learn to laugh at it cuz"
I responded: (I tried to play nice, I gave it my absolute best, I swear.)
"---- off, was my article about M&M's? ---- head.
I'll have you know your line there about "are YOU the cult leader demanding everyone hate who you hate" is verbatim a talking point on behalf of the cult that surfaced in a letter sent to me a month or two ago by cult members George and Nanda Ormond in New Zealand. Of course you don't know them, and I don't think you are in the Butler cult, but you are receiving the same info stream to suggest that talking point.
Or just of the exact same mentality.
Do you see anybody not affiliated with Hare Krishna's ever reacting like you? Fuck no! You don't even understand what the definition of a cult and a cult leader is.
Speaking your mind and speaking harshly has nothing to do with it, you are such a ------ tool. Just like nandeez!"
Now it gets interesting, as Pam's line of
"Are YOU the cult leader demanding everyone do as you say, hate who you hate?"
It is a paraphrased repeating of a line Nanda Ormond wrote in his response e-mail, which was obviously heavily injected with cult talking points, cut and pasted bulletpoints chelated from my entire run here of all my juciest quotes. Not the product of some impromptu research by Nanda Ormond, rather a file forwarded to him compiled by Chris Butler's cult members who monitor this forum.
Hi, SOI spooks! Run tell dat!
Anyway, Nanda's line:
"Hey maybe we could Start our OWN cult! You sure seem to know lots about them, and you sound and act exactly like a deranged CULT fanatic who has to force his views on everyone, and if they don’t respond or agree then FUCK THEM. Are you not exhibiting everything you’re supposedly fighting against?"
https://ramaransonvsthecult.wordpress.com/2015/07/23/nanda-ormond-response-e-mail/Pam's line:
"Are YOU the cult leader demanding everyone do as you say, hate who you hate?"
I am willing to accept this is coincidental, but bottom line is Pam Ho, in the face of my account of the child abuse I suffered by Chris Butler, Robyn Ranson and Jan Ormond, said "He's bossy, demands brown m + m's, get over it grow up"
That is so insane. Pam Ho I would suggest is a tireless public relations specialist for Tulsi Gabbard. Hired particularly because they are a seasoned (and completely desensitized) Hare Krishna, not affiliated with Chris Butler. I would suggest Pam has been charged with the task as painting Tulsi as being exactly the same as every other Hare Krishna who do not have to deal with the "cult" problem like Tulsi does.
The amount of words typed by Pam in comments on every single Tulsi article is enourmous. The amount of omitted truth about this cult on Pam's behalf is staggering, especially now.
Pam has not even said "Yes, Chris Butler is a deluded guru, seems pretty abusive like some of the worst ISKCON guys (who fell decades earlier) but Tulsi is her own person and cannot be judged by the actions of this man."
No, instead when faced with discussion of the abuse within the Chris Butler group, Pam says"Whatever, its not that bad, get over it..."
Pam does nothing but change the subject by throwing a reference to a peculiar behavior like "So what, he demands only brown m&ms" when I linked an article describing the sick and extremely abusive and traumatic treatment ordered on me while under Chris Butler's control as a 3 year old child.
Pam Ho, everyone! The lone voice of reason lulling you into Tulsi Gabbard's groovy trance.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/08/2015 08:40AM by Rama Das (slave name).