This material by Byron Katie about the Nazi's, is very important. Its a motif Byron Katie has used for many years, in many ways.
Solea's comment above is right on the money. The only adjustments I would make to that, is to not call it a "teaching" story. A Teaching Tale, is used to help people heal, grow, and learn.
Byron Katie is using the symbolic Story method, but to do the opposite of teaching, its destructive Diseducation.
But like everything Byron Katie talks about, its never REALLY about the literal subject matter. Its about the symbolic meaning to YOU, to the viewer, to her people.
This Nazi story actually explains what Byron Katie means by "Voluntary" in regards to her people.
She is saying, that if you are in a Nazi concentration camp, that following orders under death/torture is "voluntary" and there are no victims. This is how sick she is, to use that example. Byron Katie is literally saying in the face of horrendous torture, and murder, your behavior is still "voluntary", and that there are no "victims" in genocide.
So she is also saying by analogy, as pointed out before, that the 900 deaths/suicides/murders by Jim Jones orders were also "voluntary".
In Byron Katie's stories, everything is voluntary, there is no such thing as coercion, or even extreme persuasion, and thought-reform.
(but notice that does NOT apply to her, read her disclaimers where she takes ZERO responsibilty for anything). [forum.culteducation.com
This is why she says everything done to people covertly at her LGAT seminars is "voluntary".
Hey, she says she believes following orders as a prisoner at a Nazi death camp is also "voluntary".
So what does that mean to her people?
When you take her LGAT seminar, and she is using up to 100 of the most powerful mind control and thought reform techniques on earth, on innocent people who know nothing about it...Its your fault, not her fault for deceiving people, and tricking them.
It means the people who are "working for free" for Byron Katie for years, her unpaid "staff", when they are persuaded to "take out the garbage", and then feel resentment for being used as unpaid labor in a for-profit company, its not Byron Katies fault for deceiving and using them. Its your fault.
Her message to her people, who have had the most powerful covert techniques on earth used on them, to get them to do things she wants them to do... is to NOT blame Byron Katie for deceiving and using them, but to blame themselves for having their consent engineered.
Byron Katie does not even believe in coercion, or even mass influence, when it comes to YOU. If you are lied to systematically, its your fault.
And at the same time, she refuses to take ANY responsibility for anything that she does, that may harm others. Of crouse, she doesn't really believe that there are "no victims", otherwise she would apply it to herself, which she does not.
So the solution is very clear, in dealing with Byron Katie and those like her, who literally believe they can do anything they want to people, especially those who are unaware of what is being done to them.
People have to FIGHT BACK in an extremely powerful way.
Don't let Byron Katie, or anyone, box you into their mental concentration camp, and influence you to do their bidding.
Learn the exact precise techniques they are using on you, and fight back, very powerfully. Speak up, speak out, fight back. She obviously believes she has the right to do anything she wants to do to people, using any method she chooses.
So the only way to counteract that is with blowback, and to expose everything she is doing to people. This can be done at seminars, right out in the open in the mic, and to the media. After all, she doesn't believe in victims, so she cannot object.
As a matter of fact, BK members and those who know what is REALLY going on behind the scenes, have a moral obligation to speak up, and tell the public what is happening, by posting the facts on the internet. Since BK doesn't believe in victims, then she literally can't object.
Frankly, Byron Katie's Nazi material should be reported to the Anti-Defamation League, so they can take a look at it. Byron Katie has no right to make public examples of people who were mass murdered at the hands of the Nazi's.
Victor Fankl, who was in Nazi death camps and thus had a right to talk about it, spoke eloquently about human freedom in the face of murderous tyranny.
Byron Katie's thought-control system, is literally a type of mental concentration camp, sold under the guise of freedom.
The Nazi concentration camp Auschwitz had a slogan at the gate..."Arbeit Macht Frei", which translates to, Work Makes You Free.
Where have you heard those words being used? The Work and Freedom?
The irony is that the work system by Byron Katie, is one of the most deceptive, constricting, and damaging thought-reform techniques on the market today.
Do a survey of attitudes of sociopaths, and see how they view "victims". They literally view victims as being the perpetrators, exactly like Byron Katie says.
Byron Katie has just redefined the word "victim" and "voluntary" out of existence, to give her free reign to conduct her live human experiments in extreme persuasion engineering. How far is she willing to take it? Very clearly, as far or further than anyone has to this point.
Recently on youtube someone posted a Byron Katie video titled "Living in Scare-City": [www.youtube.com
Katie expands on her ideas about victims, nazis, identity and altruism and shows what a truly alternate universe BK followers live in.
Firstly her nazi quote:
"So a Jewish (?) camp full of Nazis and they want me to clean up the garbage. I am free. I do not have to do it. I'm free. They can torture me and I still don't have to do it. I'm free! If I want to live I might clean up the garbage. But who makes the decision? Who made the decision to clean up the garbage? And then I blame them for making me do it! I made me a victim in that moment. I'm not about right or wrong here I'm into reality."
With that in mind I'll go back to her victim quote. Only the victim victimizes themselves by their own actions, hence the true definition of victim is false. It begs the question: what is her definition of violence? :
"Victims are the only violent people, and I have never met a victim... a true victim. I've met people who believe their thoughts and are very confused. But other than that."
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/15/2009 04:02PM by The Anticult.