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Blackhat
Dave is obsessively going over old postings, and trying to justify his position.
He can't justify his position. He lured young impressionable men into his cult, and used them for his purposes. That is clear. It is a fact and is historically true.
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Is it true McKay (former member of the notorious ''Children of God'') and his cult are banned from entering
Germany?
I do remember reading something about that, but I don't have a reference.....sorry.....
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Blackhat
His emphasis was on young men. Sure, he lured Grace and Susan Gianstefani into his cult, but the main emphasis seems to have been on young men and promoting their practice of masturbation in order to avoid other temptations....
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When I was on the JK show, DM started to babble about masturbation: "Who masturbates? Who masturbates?" He cried out while waving his hand up in the air as is to say "Me too!" Now I shall tell you about the exact context in which wanking was brought up as a topic for discussion. I remember it vividly, and that stuff never made it into the final cut, or therefore on the air.
It was close to the end of the show, and L was telling the audience about some of the odd particulars of JC doctrine; she told of how the males in the JCs are pressured into getting vasectomies, also she told about how DM encourages people to masturbate, not just that it was allowed, but encouraged. Of course all of the JCs on stage denied these things and said that she was lying.
L looked incredulous and disgusted. She said impatiently, "But it's on your website Dave. The whole world can read about it." Then DM said something like, "OK, I admit it. That's true. I masturbate. Who else masturbates? Who masturbates?" He was grinning and waving his arm in the air. Then he said "No, better yet, who in the audience HAS masturbated?"
There was a gasp of shock and disgust from the audience, a grumble of discomfort at DM's display of lack of self-control for shock value. L puckered her lips as if to express profound contempt. G. Baldwin shook his head ruefully. I simply stared at DM in amazement because I nearly literally couldn't believe what I was witnessing. J. Kyle told Dave that he was acting perverse and childish.
DM just giggled like he was pleased with himself, and the other JCs on stage laughed on cue also. It was a bizarre scene.
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bigpigweed
while the giving up a body organ is a big thing id like to know if anyone can say how forced it is?does anyone know?was that going on when you were there malcom wrest or does anyone have firsthand say from any members like what would happen if someone didnt give there kidney?i hear that none of daves family and his consort didnt give.what was there excuse?to dangerous?are they all considered above other members.youd think some members wouldve question this among themselves.its so selfish.if cherry mackay doent like the term consort then she needs not to be a willing side kick and to speak up for whats right,.youd think one mother would feel for another like she should feel something for sheila johnsons case.
i think its overly drama queeny like to be playing funeral music over a kidney donation-lots of people live with one but i think the sad moving funeral song could be better applied to the stealing of the souls that mackay is guilty of.hes taken people away from there familys and those times are not replacable.i bet some parents have died not seeing there kids again b/c mackay kept them a part. people can live without a kidney and there are others who donate to family and strangers,they can go on to live pretty normal lives.but to have your soul stole.your dreams.your family and your whole life but the barberous mackay that deserves a funeral song.i agree with the mod that mackay will likely clench on to who ever he can til hes dead and burried.even then i expect a boney hand might be sticking out of the ground trying to grab someone.he doesnt seem to talk about God much.
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its a bad deal for the bloke who ends up with his one remained kidney failed.agreed.also i think its bad that more compassion werent shown for sheila and all that family. thats shows the measure of macays christianity. hes not a christian.simple to see.hes maybe a back slidden christian but he's not acting christian.
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i find that article you wrote apollo about the jeremy kyle show to be disgusting.i mean for mackay to have acted lke that would have been pretty crazy to see.bet it didnt endear him to the audience or to the presenter.so the other jcs laughed?youd think they would have been ashamed.whats his passion for masturbation?just to be discusting and shocking?he wins that one.what in the middle of prayers they all start wanking instead of talking in tongues?i would see that consort must be a bit sick of him talking about it with a bunch of young men.like who talks about this shit in public.well we are now.but i mean what church?scares me to picture what mackay is doing now if he's all alone there and feeling randy.he does seem a little over excitted on the foram.josie.call me when you get this.al Anyone who disagrees with McKay is forced to go through very long grievance meetings which can go into the early hours. you said this apollo and i was wondering like what is grounds for these meetings.i would see that consort must be a bit sick of him talking about it with a bunch of young men.
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about the kidneys.how much money does mackay get off each one?can they just make any amount and call it expenses.so the highest bidder could get the organ?the one who could pay the most out in expenses.cold.
its almost like when young women get knocked up and then sort of sell their baby for so called pregnacy expenses and the baby goes to the parents with the deepest pockets.i wonder who got the money off joes kidney of the cult has called it quits.im sure someone got his finders fee.apollo i do think you are coming up with good informaton to tell,thats good b/c if anything it might keep others from talking to mackay.this site jumps up number 2 on search so good odds people will find this.