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5 weeks ago
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is it just me, or were all the women who were > "Marilyn" to their Kingdom Facility/locsl church > inherently antisocial, malicious, spiteful, > overbearing women? Good question, Reep. I think if they weren't that way when she "chose" them, they soon absorbed those qualities.
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5 weeks ago
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Yes--the cruelty of TLWF top leadership can't be understated, typer. I occasionally share this poignant post from sierradawn back in October of 2013 about the callous treatment her Mom received when she was terminally ill, as a reminder of what we came out of. Not that we need it. Anyway, many of us have made significant progress on path[s) toward recovery, and let it continue. Re
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5 weeks ago
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typer Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There is so much emphasis from Jesus in his > ministry on the widow, the orphan and children. > Even the 12 apostles didn't have a clue on how > much Jesus loved children. What the fuck is wrong > with people and their religion? The damn love for > money and power and who the hell is going to sit
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5 weeks ago
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Best to stay clear of inhumane people--hating dogs would be one stark indication. Another indication, perhaps more obvious, is if you see fire in their eyes while they are praying.
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5 weeks ago
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I've always wondered why John Sayer and John Stevens hated dogs so much. Best to stay clear of inhumane people--hating dogs would be one stark indication.
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6 weeks ago
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Maybe John's vision of having Senior Housing on Shiloh property is finally going to be fulfilled, benefiting seniors in the community, and also both current and former members of TLWF who are now seniors and could use a little help. That would be great.
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6 weeks ago
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Who knows...perhaps the development will benefit the community, and eventually the owners of the property (whoever they are) can sell it to the city. We'll see.
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6 weeks ago
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1,410,273 page views to date. I think a lot of people are hoping for a pony :)
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6 weeks ago
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“We’ll have more in depth discussion at the next meeting (Jan. 20) with the vision and how that will carry out at that time,” Schlabaugh said. “At the point, the developer will be public, and they’ll share their vision.” I suspect one way or another this vision will entail a very few people making off like bandits, and everyone else who has been sacrificially involved with Shiloh through the y
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6 weeks ago
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Leaving this realm To move into another note: I was evicted from the first realm, so this move was not by choice. I think it for the better, though. #optimistic
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6 weeks ago
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typer Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Changedagain: You make me laugh. Thank you. It is > so true when we had a cry for help the silence > could be deafening. I love the songs of help we > sing to each other. The morbid ones that make us > laugh are the best. Thanks, typer. Glad you're contributing to this forum. You've witnessed
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6 weeks ago
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Why are you grumpy? Well, my husband is still having the church pray for my death. Is that all? Yes, isn't that enough? Have you tried looking on the bright side of life? You're not going to sing that song to me again, are you? Yes, I am Now I am really grumpy. This day is not starting well. (singing) Some things in life are bad They can really make you mad Other things just
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6 weeks ago
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Reep wrote: Typer, I agree that Martha Stevens was a good and loving person. There was nothing wrong with her. Her husband had a roving eye and didn't feel that his ministry could survive a divorce. So what does any self-respecting Apostle to the Kingdom do? Tell people to pray for his wife to die, of course. Simple. Fortunately, it didn't work. JRS actually died sixteen years prior to
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6 weeks ago
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typer wrote: I remember the direction for prophesying the deaths of John F. Kennedy, Castro, and Kissinger. Oh, yeah, and Martha Stevens. My wife loved Martha. Martha was very kind to her when she worked at the Blix House in 1976. Thanks for sharing this, typer.
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6 weeks ago
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Being full of 'piss & vinegar' barely covers how > high and lofty we thought of ourselves. In > reality, it is a good thing all of our 'bluff & > bluster' prophesying fell to the ground void. The > world is probably much better off. > > (C H A N G E D : Your prophecy w
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6 weeks ago
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Speaking of stampedes (a subject no one has brought up)...during one late 70's violent prayer service presided over by John, I remember almost being trampled as I was trying to make my way up to the platform to deliver an earth changing prophesy. I've always been pretty good staying upright in a very physical environment, so did get my prophecy off. I have no recollection what I spoke,
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6 weeks ago
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This may be indicative of a "religious spirit," but my advice to anyone here who is considering drinking more...is to (if possible) stop drinking when you're only church function drunk, and avoid transitioning into the sh*tfaced drunk level. You could probably carry a breathalyzer around with you to (kinda) ascertain where you are at ...but I think it would be more accurate to rely
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6 weeks ago
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that little red flag Wrote: > I think I've mentioned this before, but my DR > actually told me I needed to start drinking more. > (Disclaimer: I actually do like a number of > drinks but my stomach does not, per two ulcers > acquired in my early 20's - probably brought on by > the communal home I lived in!) Wow.
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6 weeks ago
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Reep wrote: The churches that still allowed people to exercise a modicum of free will have been closed down one way or another. What seems to remain are a few churches which are entirely dedicated to slavishly follow Hargrave's random thought process. No room for individual thinking. Do you remember the feast services in the late 80's-early 90's (I think) when Silas would stand
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6 weeks ago
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Reep wrote: "entirely dedicated to slavishly follow Hargrave's random thought process" that's an apt description
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6 weeks ago
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The money has been directed elsewhere, certainly not in the future of a healthy, growing church. To those who still choose to believe that ex-leaders have operated in good faith, and continue to do so now, I can only point out there is overwhelming evidence that suggests otherwise (to put it mildly).
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6 weeks ago
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Onion Wrote: "CHHP filed an amendment changing the name of that corporation to Hargrave Family Ministries - A Living Word Ministry. That gave them the ability to take the money paid for the church property into their HFM account." I wonder if long-time members of the Anaheim church were aware of this, and if it bothered them that the proceeds from their church were now in direct c
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7 weeks ago
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Unless I see otherwise, it's hard for me to believe that the power structure in at least a few of the key churches is any different than what it was before the allegations of sexual abuse went public in the fall of 2018. The big decisions still need to originate, or at least be 'confirmed,' by one of two of the same leaders that have been in charge for decades. If anyone insists on
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7 weeks ago
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Cloudwatcher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Well, I certainly wish I was. Apparently I don't > deserve anything. But that is a matter for the > gods to decide. Maybe they will cut me a break. Well, we've got each other's back here. And I as far as I can tell, there is not one Judas among us. I think I know where he can be found
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7 weeks ago
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I hope everyone is having a good day. You guys certainly deserve it! In Christ's Blood, changedagain
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7 weeks ago
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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I’m just taking a “coffee break from God” Yeah, I spent the morning cross-dodging. Not sure what I will do this afternoon. Feeling optimistic, though.
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7 weeks ago
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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Happy New Year to you all. Here’s to freedom of > thought and healing to us all. Cheers & love. You sound bitter ;)
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7 weeks ago
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kBOY Wrote: > (2019--good riddance.) Yes
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