A few posts from four years ago: Posted by: Aleutian Date: January 10, 2019 12:12PM I recently recalled a time I was volunteering working on ¨G and M´s¨ luxury home on Oahu in Hawaii. It was a hot summer day, and I didn´t bring any sunscreen. I had the nerve to ask for some. After all, I was working for free. Instead of them helping me, they called for their ¨handler¨ at the time to he
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Q & A continuted: You're not on good terms with a few former friends who are still supportive of the cult, is that correct? Yes, that is correct. But there is no hostility between us, at least to my knowledge. So you didn't recently send one of them a holiday card that read "May You Rot in Hell, Merry Christmas!" Of course not. I think you have me confused wit
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And now for something completely different-- answers to the question: buried or cremated?
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I think that was by design, TCMJ: TheyCalledMeJonah wrote: To me, this cycle has a few negative effects. One of the effects is when words come bringing some new concept of something we need to attain, we still haven't gotten the last thing that the pastor talked about. This always made me feel like I wasn't good enough, or couldn't grasp what they were bringing, and I felt like
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Yeah, he keeps coming back. I just hope he doesn't start channeling himself through Scott and Charity's podcast. I've been really enjoying it up to this point. Reep wrote: I remember that too, changedagain. I think he reappeared, didn't he? changedagain wrote: BTW, I recall Gary stating that John's death actually brought down Satan, which if people believe it
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A few more posts from January of 2018: Posted by: Reepicheep Date: January 08, 2018 07:53PM changedagain wrote: BTW, I recall Gary stating that John's death actually brought down Satan, which if people believe it, would make John even more revered (if that is possible). I remember that too, changedagain. I think he reappeared, didn't he? Also, I distinctly remember sermon
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If I recall correctly, as the year went on there was a lot more 'fur' flying in the forum. I did not instigate any of it, of course, since I somehow manage to always have a 'right spirit'--no matter the situation. Note: please do not fact-check this with my wife. Just take it by faith, O.K.? Thanks! Reepicheep Wrote: Excellent choices for reposting, Changed. I was loo
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A different perspective on JRS and his 'ministry'--from January of 2018: Posted by: acesandates Date: January 05, 2018 05:56PM All this bellyaching about the Apostolic ministry of John Robert Stevens. Regrets that you opened yourselves to the charismatic ecstasy of the living word flowing through him back then, especially in the late 60s and early 70s. JRS carried, indeed incarn
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This app cited continues to be helpful in my life. Posted by: changedagain Date: June 01, 2022 11:04AM Reep wrote: Anyway, thank you for all your hard work and concern for this place to learn and heal. Much appreciated, Reep. BTW, one thing that has helped me the past 3-4 years is having a consistent meditation practice. The app I use the most is Waking Up, created by Sam Harris.
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So sick, Reep. Good thing we never celebrated (officially) Christmas, since he might have been tempted to slay one of the reindeer in front of the kids. Hopefully, not Rudolph. Sadists will be sadists. I guess this even applies to hippies. Note: Fortunately, I never had the 'pleasure' of meeting this person you're referring to. Heard a lot about him, though--none of it good.
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What you see, you shouldn't trust. So that 400 lb guy on the platform wearing a Hawaiian shirt is not real? WHAT DID I JUST TELL YOU!! #HumorFailsUnlimited
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I need to get out of here, now! O.K.--you have two options. Iowa city or China. Uhh...it's probably a mistake, but I'm going with Iowa city. Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You'll laugh! You may cry. It will definitely make > you think. And then laugh some more. Be sure to > watch this end of the first season episod
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References to the Catholic church, and the different stance JRS had vs. G & M: Posted by: ben there Date: February 19, 2007 11:48AM I think it was when I started hearing entire groups (like the catholic church, government officials, businesses, etc) 'judged' as being satan in the earth, the whore of babylon, the Nephilim, or whoever the bad guy of the night was...and all sor
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"who charges people to attend a funeral?" Posted by: reveal Date: October 15, 2018 03:19AM FROMSOUTHCHICAGO, I'm glad you asked about Marilyn's funeral because it's something I have thought of posting about on here for some time. I was there and it was very, very odd. One, we had to pay to attend. No kidding. We were told we had to register if we wanted to attend
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What does SFIC stand for? I told you I'm not good with acronyms. Just venture a guess. Well, I have an answer that is only three words, rather than the necessary four. What is it? Shit-faced in Christ. Good enough.
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Something I wrote three years ago on the FB discussion group. Yes, I still stand by this, 'bad spirit' and all: One of the most insidious patterns within the Walk and TLWF was the tendency to blame the congregation for the "word" not being fulfilled. And then later, of course, placing the burden on those who had experienced abuse for decades, perpetrated and covered up by c
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I haven't yet heard this entire sentence, but so far it is perfect. Taking a short lunch break, and then will resume listening: "The first time I realized I was in a cult was when George W. Bush was running for president..." I just watched the new video interview of Johana Wozniak, who was born and raised in The Living Word Fellowship. This included spending her entire schoo
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It boggles my mind how long these con artists were > able to trick people (us) into believing that God > was talking to them in a coherent manner. They > were making it up as they went along. There was no > "God's plan". It was a long con since the > beginning. And at least one or a
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October of 2022: Posted by: changedagain Date: October 25, 2022 10:29PM Despite our prayers, John never returned. But Satan is back. John's victory over him was just temporary, I guess. Perhaps he will be brought down again by the death of a future Apostle...and this time it will be permanent. We can only hope. #LookOnTheBrightSide /s Saw Enough wrote: There was a period of time
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Larry has shouldered a lot of responsibility in helping people recover from the heartless organization that was TLWF. I'm glad he has been so vocal for so many years--both in this forum and on Factnet. Certainly a much needed voice in confronting false authority.
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A question that was never asked back in day, lest the person asking lose their 'covering,' and possibly disappear from the face of the earth: "Hey Mom and Dad, instead of being Christ in the flesh, could you two just be decent human beings--even for a day? I really think that would be more helpful. Thanks in advance!"
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The podcast reminded me of this exhortation to the Valley church by an L.A. shepherd, not known for his social skills: "If you're not going to respect Marilyn as Christ then get the fuck out of my church."
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Yes Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- Another excellent episode of Oops! I'm In A Cult is up on YouTube.
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fromsouthchicago did not take his cousin seriously: Posted by: fromsouthchicago Date: October 25, 2018 09:46AM (excerpt) I’m not sure this has been true for everyone in my extended family, but I know that for those in my immediate family and for me Marilyn, CLW and TLWF was a side show, something akin to a traveling carnival. I didn’t take anything that Marilyn said or did seriously. To
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A few posts from July of 2018: Posted by: Cloudwatcher Date: July 13, 2018 10:08PM changedagain Wrote: The truth about the nefarious ways of TLWF leadership through the years is surfacing, causing quite the reaction. Here's an excerpt from the latest 'living word' emanating from Shiloh (below). It's the same twisting of reality, but the warnings/threats to the people
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The Titanic voyage was not perfect either. #ControversialStance Gary has recently admitted over the pulpit "Some mistakes have been made in the past. We are not perfect.".
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Jez, Here's a few posts mentioning John allegedly bringing down Satan with his death. Then Satan returned, of course. Perhaps he'll be brought down again in the near future by another apostle's death. We can only hope. ;) Posted by: paleface Date: March 24, 2011 08:28AM Gary has recently admitted over the pulpit "Some mistakes have been made in the past. We are no
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From May of 2019: Posted by: larry bobo Date: May 15, 2019 11:55AM At the time of John’s death, the upward flow had already started. As Gary and Marilyn took control of the organization, the level of control and focus on them increased dramatically. There were a few members of the third generation that had referred to John as “Christ in the Flesh”, but to most, he was the “Door Opener Apo
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