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4 months ago
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I hear you, dbc. Your posts have been invaluable here, helping people in similar situations, so take some comfort in that.
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4 months ago
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I was talking to Craig about a band that I was going to start playing with, and he said "Don't tell me you're gonna go out and become a fucking musician. That's not who you are." possible response: O.K.--but don't tell me you are a pastor, because that's not who you are. Deal?
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4 months ago
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TheyCalledMeJonah wrote: I was talking to Craig about a band that I was going to start playing with, and he said "Don't tell me you're gonna go out and become a fucking musician. That's not who you are." So your identity is that you are not a fucking musician? It's obvious from this deep personal ministry that Craig has the gift of discernment. ;)
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4 months ago
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TheyCalledMeJonah wrote: "I laugh every time I remember when Craig said in front of the church, Trump announced that today is the national day of prayer. You can say what you want about the guy, but when something happens, he turns to prayer." I think a lot of it takes place on the golf course.
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4 months ago
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TheycalledmeJonah from January of 2018: Posted by: TheycalledmeJonah Date: January 05, 2018 06:10AM Hey All, I've been a lurker for many months now, and I finally got an account. I'm hoping I can add a bit to the conversation since I have only very recently left the church. In fact, this Sunday will be my first time going to a non-TLWF church on my own accord. I am a young ma
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4 months ago
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Wow! So many readers, commenters and deep thinkers. Go Team Neph! Yes. I'm betting that God identifies more with Team Neph and Team Jez, than he does with Team VIP. No idea about Team Shitfaced.
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4 months ago
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Present stats: Comments: 11,913 Page views: 2,529,751 Nephilim participating: seems like quite a few :)
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5 months ago
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Posts by Changed, Onion, Reep and walkntalkin: Posted by: changedagain Date: April 28, 2019 06:02AM Onion Wrote: > Some things began to change last year as a result > of people bravely taking a stand. I understand > some private communications started the ball > rolling quite some time before the public > exposures of October 2018. But many of the > promises made i
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5 months ago
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A couple posts from March of 2017: Posted by: pbxguy Date: March 20, 2017 12:49AM One thing I will never miss about TLW is the ingrained exclusivity and elitism. It is so unfortunate that someone would think the "Little People" were somehow treated less badly than those who participated in the hierarchy. Everyone was taken advantage of. Everyone. From the preacher who thinks
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5 months ago
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From my experience, your perspective is an accurate one, dbc. Thanks for your participation in this forum.
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5 months ago
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A few posts by typer from October 2019: Posted by: typer Date: October 24, 2019 08:01AM To Denise Waller Laughlin: My wife came from Iowa to work in the word work in 1976 after she graduated from High School. JRS talked to her and assigned her to the Blix House and then to the Living Word Building in shipping and printing. She had saved $400 which lasted a year. She would like to thank
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5 months ago
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dbc wrote: Thanks for digging that up and reposting. The damage has not abated. The perpetrators got off scot free. Many gave up the best years of their lives. "There's a place for us ...." we have to move forward and reclaim our essence - but that's so difficult to do as a deliberate act of intention as opposed to a reaction to the tyranny of the past. true
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5 months ago
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Post by dbc from November of 2018: Posted by: dbc Date: November 02, 2018 08:28PM Let’s not forget the origins of this group. It was meant to be the restoration of apostolic authority. Inherent in that is a lack of accountability. The only check on abuse in the beginning was created by relationships with other groups. John Stevens’last contact with Bob Mumford whose teachings and organiza
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5 months ago
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The link GSchaeff mentioned (hopefully this works):
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5 months ago
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Post by GSchaeff from September 2018: Posted by: GSchaeff Date: September 25, 2018 02:01AM One thing TLW members have heard countless times over the pulpit is that they didn't submit themselves completely last time, or they didn't truly repent, but this time it will work. This time they have a "new understanding of what repentance means,” or a "new revelation of what l
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5 months ago
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4generation wrote: And you Gary, in your letter you said that you regret because you did not hear the voice of the Holy Spirit. But in what you did not hear Him? In the covering up the crimes committed by the leadership you have established? Or getting involved with Marylin sexually with John's death? Or in creating a system and a doctrine that idolizes man instead of God? It seems to me
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5 months ago
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Thank you again 4generation for this clear and powerful post from December of 2019. Hope you are doing well. Posted by: 4generation Date: December 28, 2019 12:28AM Welcome Powertrip, so good to see another brazilian posting here. Unfortunately what you shared with us is not a surprise to me and only shows how deceived we have been for decades in this church. For me who was born int
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6 months ago
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"I'll tell you when you're getting too radical." -JRS "Praying for the death of your wife is not too radical?" -someone in the back of the church
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6 months ago
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the heyday of Shiloh (summer of 1979--400+ people living in building) storming Heaven attempting to give God a black eye If we knew when he took his naps, we could ambush him when his defenses are down. He's been around for a very long time, seen what mankind is capable of, so it stands to reason that he's a frequent napper. #PrayerWarriorStrategy
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6 months ago
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Reep wrote: And all because JRS was having a hissy fit due to his wife of forty years refusing to die and save him the embarrassment of a very messy divorce. Despite so many "prophets" violently praying day and night for the death of the Nephilim, Martha managed to outlive the Apostle to the Kingdom by many years. Vindication at its finest. Marilyn, of course, later chastised th
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6 months ago
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Wow--this is one extensive list. Posted by: kBOY Date: December 24, 2018 07:55PM WALK TALK Lexicon Amphitheater = Facility at Shiloh where the annual July 4th (sometimes on the 3rd) fireworks show took place APCO = Apostolic Company Authority = Ministries claim to exercise the authority of Christ. Congregants must submit to their authority Babylon = Any church or business not associ
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6 months ago
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Which reminds me of a Kingdom proverb I submitted and that was immediately rejected: "Don't bother trying to please Christ in the Flesh. It's not gonna happen." Posted by: that little red flag Date: November 29, 2018 01:19PM lone.wolf and Onion - I haven't been around at the local SD church for almost 5 years, but they had the apartment there (the Taco Shell)
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6 months ago
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Post by Twoteetwo from October 2018 Posted by: Twoteetwo Date: October 17, 2018 06:57AM Onion, thank you for shining light into very dark corners. My husband and I began to think about leaving when Gary left Donna and baby, and married Marilyn. We thought it was so wrong, but reading the posts, things were worse than we imagined. We were such suckers. We finally left after attending a serv
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6 months ago
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TheJewel Wrote: The god who created the universe has surely figured out how to make a volume control by now. "How great is our God, sing with me How great is our God, and all will see He can make a volume control" Sorry--that doesn't quite work. Please disregard.
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6 months ago
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typer wrote: The violent intercession is back, from what I hear, online from the Shiloh group of about 40-60 people. Like all the violent intercession in the Walk/TLWF, it appears to have had the opposite effect. In fact, I think the best way to not have something happen, is to pray violently for it to happen...persistently "hitting God under the eye," and basically pissing him off.
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7 months ago
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Hope you're doing well, typer. From April of 2020 Posted by: typer Date: April 23, 2020 12:26PM I hear quite a few people are moving from San Diego to Arizona right now. I hope they are delivering themselves from the cult; and that San Diego diehards will finally go away and / or find healing from the toxic Julie Larson / Bruce Larson poison and other henchmen like Seebolt and the
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7 months ago
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Note to former self: When you are standing in a late-70's 'violent intercession' service, prayer warriors demanding that God fulfill his promises...and hear someone from the platform prophecy "WE'VE GOT YOU BY THE BALLS, GOD!!"--veins popping from his neck--perhaps that it is the time to seriously consider exiting the scene. To your credit, however, you restrained
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7 months ago
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Reep wrote: Thanks for reposting this, Changedagain. Heartbreaking. Wasted, you only posted once, so if you're still reading I hope you'll write more of your story. You are definitely not alone. Yes
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7 months ago
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Below is the updated stats for this forum where we've discussed our experiences in TLWF/The Walk. Again, thank you to all who have participated through the years in exposing what this movement was really about, and effectively countering the PR: Comments: 11,884 Page views: 2,459,583
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7 months ago
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Post by "Wasted" from October 2020: Posted by: Wasted Date: October 30, 2020 03:28PM I have spent a lot of time reading many people’s stories and experiences within the cult that was/is The Living Word Fellowship. It is horrible, disgusting, and I am so sorry for all of those it has impacted. Thank you to so many who have shared. I sincerely hope as you move forward from these e
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