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Comments that reference "designated relationships," everyone's favorite topic!: /s Posted by: FCSLC Date: January 16, 2015 06:04PM I don’t ever remember getting life from submission to the designated shepherd. It was always on the level of trying to avoid their anger or disapproval. I was using my life/energy to keep the situation stable. What BS. Posted by: paleface
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AMA: Have you ever experienced a 'Bless-In' where one of the participants was wearing a holster with a loaded gun in it? I don't think so.
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AMA: Do you think anyone in the fellowship regarded you as 'Christ in the Flesh'? No. There was one guy who told me he thought I was 'doubting Thomas in the flesh,' but I don't think he meant it as a compliment.
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From January of this year (excerpt): Posted by: JesusJesusJesus Date: January 03, 2019 07:17PM Throughout the process of thinking through and putting down in black and white just how broken The Living Word Fellowship has been from the start, and the reality that I believed in it and gave everything to it for so long, has been very difficult. Even now as I am finishing the last touches and
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There was that one time in the Valley that many large wooden crosses (about six feet high) were brought in during a service on Easter Sunday. First time Easter was celebrated in a service, I think. Luckily, G&M just wanted people to write down their sins and nail them to a cross. If everyone participated in good faith, including leaders: Announcement: "O.K.---just letting everyone
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kBOY Wrote: > It is good that option was not available within > TLW or there would have been crucifixions > body-wide every time anyone seemed to confront the > anomalies of the 'pure atmosphere'. Someone with carpentry skills could start a Kingdom business (Kingdom Crosses) and probably do quite well. If a certain percentage of the profits went to Marilyn, my guess
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G&M just wanted people to write down their sins and nail them to a cross. Didn't someone collect all the sins and offer to sell them to the highest bidder?
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Reep wrote: Those within the church had to be serious koolaide drinkers in order to get the Apostolic Seale of Approval. Other more knowledgeable practitioners were kicked to the curb. I think most of us experienced the inverse of "resurrection life" during our years captive to the malpractice of TLWF leadership. Posted by: paleface Date: March 21, 2016 06:07AM I have a conf
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From September of 2018: Posted by: Saw enough Date: September 27, 2018 10:21PM In December 1972 Brother Stevens disappeared for an entire day and a few days later he went to the Valley Church and claimed that he'd been caught up in the spirit and taken 7 years into the future where he saw the Kingdom. As he explained his vision and his sense of losing all track of time that day, some
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Describing the 'upward flow': Posted by: larry bobo Date: May 15, 2019 11:55AM At the time of John’s death, the upward flow had already started. As Gary and Marilyn took control of the organization, the level of control and focus on them increased dramatically. There were a few members of the third generation that had referred to John as “Christ in the Flesh”, but to most, he wa
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Reep wrote: Once you see the crazy, you can't unsee it. True.
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6 weeks ago
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kBOY wrote, Lest we forget that both G&M were complicit in orchestrating three major Rick Disney coverups/mop-ups/damage controls that occurred during multiple affairs/marriages--I lost count. I've lost count, too.
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It's a new day so that means another new lawsuit and a brand new church for Hargrave. If Gary is able to unite the Catholics, Protestants and Jews under his authority...I mean, under the authority of Jesus Christ...that would be truly impressive. Perhaps the lawsuit should be dropped because of the importance of his global ministry. /s
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A couple posts by Lilith from November of 2018 (below). Disclosure: I was a part of the "wackadoodle intercession" back in the day (late 70's). I think I was a little more restrained than many of the other prayer warriors, though. I can't recall ever prophesying "God, We Got You By The B*lls!"--or anything of that nature. Posted by: Lilith Date: November 01
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An astute assessment, Lilith. Thank you.
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The guy has an insatiable need to be praised, and I guess there are enough die-hards willing to provide this service for him, in the name of "Oneness." Perverse.
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7 weeks ago
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Either you are in service to his reputation and ambition, or you are considered an enemy. After a few decades of oppression, I figured I would opt for the freedom that came with being "disobedient." It was a long overdue life-saving decision on my part. May others who are still trapped in the deception of his self-appointed "ministry" come to their senses!
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Onion wrote: Gary and Marilyn Hargrave had the financial resources and the numbers in people to build many faceted deceptive pictures of themselves and to maintain those deceptions for 30+ years. It's clear Gary continues to be obsessed with appearing to be a VIP end-time ministry, reflected in the latest web site. Knowing that his ambition will never be fulfilled, at least the way he wa
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JRS Birthday & New Lawsuit Visitors Welcome! I'm thinking of a new church sign :)
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Onion Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > In light of the new Gary Hargrave presence on > facebook, twitter, and his Promised (threatened) > podcast and website - it would be great when you > are reposting old posts if you would start > reposting some of my old posts. You can share whatever you think is relevant to the discussion, Onion. &
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project mentioned on new website: AMI – Jerusalem Center for Biblical Study and Research - Building bridges between Christians and Jews with Biblical study and research. I came across the 'Jerusalem Center for Biblical Study' on the web, but I'm not certain if this is the organization Gary Hargrave and David Larson (aka Bruce Larson) are a part of (link below). If not, could so
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Reepicheep Wrote: > Changed, truly amazing. I have never known Gary > Hargrave to be concerned with anyone other than > himself. Now he cares about widows and orphans? > Wow! A mighty transformation! It was probably the result of countless hours he spent, following the demise of TLWF, in repentance before the Lord for the role he played in covering up decades of sexual abuse.
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One of his projects: Yad Eliezer Food Box Program - Feeding the poor and breaking the cycle of poverty in Israel. www.hargraveministries.org This new concern for the poor indicates a remarkable transformation from the person Imapurple routinely encountered while in The Living Word fellowship: Posted by: Imapurple Date: October 31, 2019 07:52PM Seeing Donna in the middle yard with t
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TheJewel wrote: I was “blown out” and gone before that guy attained prominence, thank god. I a, pretty sure I met him in San Diego, though. I think that is where he originated. I heard he originated from San Diego, too. I also heard that within six months or so of joining the fellowship, he had ascended to the position of assistant pastor. Highly unusual. BTW, I believe the church was called
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Reepicheep Wrote: > Gary Hargrave, former one of two Apostolic > Fathering Ministries (the other being Marilyn, who > passed in 2015) of the now allegedly defunct > Living Word Fellowship, has reinvented himself as > a Zionist podcaster and tour guide? Also > apparently took over the AMI Jerusalem Center when > Schlomo Hitzak died? I smell a rather large rat. Driv
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walknntalkn Wrote: Look who's got a shiny new website: Yes, it is shiny!
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The web site is slickly done...and it presents an image of himself that that is completely opposite of what he really is...but those who endured 35+ years of his fraudulent "ministry" should not be surprised by this. Fortunately for him, he has ample financial resources that enable him to widely promote this "ministry"--one that is bound, if history in any indication (and it i
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Posts from November 1, 2018: Posted by: JezTheBelle Date: November 01, 2018 07:10PM It has come: Posted by: Cloudwatcher Date: November 01, 2018 07:19PM Oh okay Blame it on the holy spirit---here we go folks. Posted by: changedagain Date: November 01, 2018 07:33PM My initial reaction to the big 'apology': Gary, Asking the Lord to forgive your sins, without
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"Our passion is to see the Kingdom of God manifest on earth as the body of Christ grows in unity, power and love." No way he's going to be a part of the "body of Christ" unless he controls the other members of the "body." Gary is not going to be a little toe!
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