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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > changedagain Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > 'Sit Down, Shut Up and Listen' > > > > I remember this quote as: > > “Sit down, shut up and help me.” At least I got the 'sit down, shut up' part right! #MemoriesOfMom
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Discussion group stats: Comments: 11,419 Page Views: 2,000,020 Hope everyone is staying safe and has a pleasant Sunday. Thank you for contributing to the discussion these many years. And thank you to Rick Ross for providing and maintaining this site.
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2 months ago
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'Sit Down, Shut Up and Listen' (the opening line of the Sermon of the Mount, if delivered by Marilyn)
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I remember a message from G&M where they talked about the one big mistake JRS made. They said his big error was that he “didn’t fully open up to Marilyn”. I think that was in reaction to them finding out that John was with another woman (besides Marilyn, or his wife Martha) on the day he was allegedly transported seven years into the future to witness the Kingdom. Seriously.
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He knew... Posted by: Imapurple Date: November 26, 2019 07:23PM I truly believe that he was regretful of his openness to Marilyn and all the craziness that followed. I believe he knew it was wrong and knew God was never in all that. I’m not making excuses for him. I just think he knew he had been buying into his own BS and the BS that was always around him. On his bed as he was sick and d
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2 months ago
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A life-time of exposure to extremely toxic 'ministries.' Hope you're doing O.K., Imapurple...it's been a while since we last heard from you. Thank you for sharing your stories in this forum, which I'm sure has helped many with similar struggles as you have had. Posted by: Imapurple Date: February 01, 2020 09:04PM The ongoing hindsight in all of this is so eye op
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Yes, our family enjoyed reading Chronicles of Narnia as well, Typer. Glad you and your wife decided to read it, defying explicit instructions from the 'Apostle to the Kingdom' not to do so. :) typer Date: November 05, 2019 10:16AM Does anyone else remember in the early 1970's when the school of prophets manuals were being printed and people were selected to be able to part
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2 months ago
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kBOY wrote: Grouchy old men need not apply. Damn! Excerpt from a post by reveal from August 2018: Posted by: reveal Date: August 18, 2018 05:37AM I was born and raised in the fellowship (an OG YASPer, too), and for a long time I never really considered how toxic it was because it was all I ever knew, but several years ago I started to wake up and I began to see things for what the
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It's still pretty raw for a lot of us. I didn't have a whole lot of exposure to the guilt-trip message that Marilyn dumped on much of the congregation about being responsible for John's death. Or maybe I tuned it out. Too bad we don't have video footage of how she was conducted herself while her husband was dying. A sadistic hypocrite.
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2 months ago
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Reep wrote: Yes, we were directed to pray for the resurrection of John Robert Stevens. That was right after we were told that we, the people, were responsible for his death. You Killed Him Now Bring Him Back -a Living Word
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All this from the two people fighting for control of the churches, and who, by many firsthand accounts, had already begun an amorous relationship while JRS lay dying. JRS last words: "Could you keep it down in there?"
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I was heavily involved in the intercession in the mid to late 70's, and I recall the idea of him being the "door-opener" and/or the "apostle to the Kingdom" being frequently referenced in our vocalized prayers at church services...with him present and not contradicting anything spoken. I also recall messages John brought during that time period in which he would claim to
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2 months ago
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A post by 'PowerTrip' early in the year: Posted by: PowerTrip Date: January 29, 2020 04:49AM Hi guys, Time has passed since my last post when I had the courage to say that what I have suffered when I was young during my time at TLWF was abuse. I feel like I aged 5 years and I am honestly not want to talk about me but I know some people might have questions. Yes, I was abused
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2 months ago
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kBOY wrote: I was a bit shocked and saddened to hear of his passing, but as we now know, disclosures of serious misconduct were probably what led to his suicide. As we have learned from some of the best (JRS, G&M), a public face can often hide a much darker private one. I didn't know Mike Wood, and the only info I have about him is what has been written in this forum. Was his sui
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3 months ago
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Post by Walked from November of 2018: Posted by: Walked Date: November 16, 2018 06:43AM I feel like I’ve just been told there is no Santa Claus…. While I didn’t suffer the horrendous violations that those under the sexual predators and their enablers did, the Church soaked up over 8 years of my prime life and more money, time, and labor than my stomach wants to admit. Worse, discoverin
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3 months ago
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kBOY Wrote: > A wise one once said, we will know them by their > fruit, and TheWalk/TLW has reaped a devastating > harvest. True
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Discussion group stats to date: Posts: 11,385 Views: 1,950,118 p.s. Commenters with a right spirit: 0
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EVERYONE IN THIS FORUM BETTER GET A RIGHT SPIRIT OR ELSE. THIS IS YOUR LAST WARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)
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3 months ago
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Now...how to effectively deal with people's anger management problems ;) Posted by: Reepicheep () Date: November 07, 2019 10:27AM Typer wrote: John Sayer in Palmer Lake brought quite a few words on people having anger management problems. He would read from some author about it over the pulpit (can't remember the book). He would call people out over the pulpit from time to time;
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3 months ago
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That's from the poster 'To Tell the Truth,' kBOY. Whoever it is, I wish them well.
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3 months ago
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A few posts from mid-September, 2018: Posted by: To Tell The Truth Date: September 15, 2018 04:54PM kBOY wrote: "Each will have to pursue healing in whatever manner suits them best. The unique characteristics of this forum offer perspectives from fellow participants that are in addition to any help one might pursue from professionals." I think that's the beauty of this F
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3 months ago
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On the subject of 'trust has to be earned': Posted by: Cloudwatcher Date: September 23, 2018 01:02PM You know they did this "open door" thing quite some time ago with meetings every week so people could air their concerns and complaints in an open forum. Nothing was done about anything--and important and valid concerns were voiced. After they had collected enough infor
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3 months ago
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Reep wrote: Don't gossip. It was as though nothing this idiot had done could compare with the idea that two of the lowly sheep might discuss his actions. I bet much of the 'gossip' consisted of parents warning other parents to keep their daughters out of Rick's orbit, if possible. This type of 'gossip' will flourish if the authority structure is corrupt, concern
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Again, absolutely no obligation to "open up" to those who not only are not professional therapists, but have proven themselves unworthy of being trusted with confidential info time and time again. In other words, not even a decent friend. Don't allow them to influence the process of your healing...however long it takes. It's your life, after all: Posted by: Reepicheep ()
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3 months ago
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > puddington Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > I wonder if Gary Hargrave is telling people > that > > COVID-19 is a hoax? > > Either that or he's selling lots of MFC products. > Or both. Isn't the love of money the root of all righteou
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3 months ago
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"I really didn't involve myself with TLWF. The leaders were doing an outstanding job, and I just allowed them to do what came naturally. Less work for me." -Satan
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Thankful for being freed from the oppressive environment we were once immersed in...wresting our lives away from the control of false shepherds: Posted by: pressingonbyHisgrace Date: January 03, 2019 01:48PM Paleface wrote: I'm certain I repressed that memory (until now) due to the sheer basis of its cruelty and ludicrousness, but it is what caused me to finally leave. I remember M
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3 months ago
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kBOY wrote: There really is something in whipping the crowd into a frenzy (I mine worship) by singing the same stanza of the same song 6-8 times. It has a hypnotic effect as it numbs the mind (I mine prepare for the 'weird') into accepting whatever was to come next. True
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