A few more: Posted by: changedagain Date: September 30, 2019 11:15AM I doubt there was even one person in Walk/TLWF history that openly disagreed with John or G & M and retained any respect or standing within the church. Can anyone point to an example? If not, that shows how ludicrous the concept of confirmation was within the fellowship...at least when applying it to top leaders. Da
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Approximately four years ago: September 29-30, 2019 Posted by: changedagain Onion Wrote: I believe there is a lot more to find and expose. On one level we all kind of wish that were not the case, with many still processing all of the heartache that has already come thus far. The disclosures themselves have a PTSD impact on those who attempt to process the news. Yes, the combination
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IF YOU ARE GOING TO VOLUNTARILY WORK ON AN OUTSIDE PROJECT FOR VIP CHURCH MINISTRIES, MAKE SURE YOU BRING YOUR OWN SUNSCREEN, DRINKING WATER, PORTA-POTTY, FIRST AID KIT AND PERHAPS A PHYSICIAN ASSISTANT!! IF YOU NEED ANYTHING ELSE, FOLLOW DIVINE ORDER AND TALK ONLY TO THE HANDLER, IF YOU CAN LOCATE HIM. DON'T BOTHER THE OCCUPANTS OF THE HOUSE!! THEY NEED THEIR SLEEP!!! #FamilySpirit #NewDa
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Not quite the inspirational Labor Day story I hoped to share today. That said, it did end on a positive note, with the author 'Aleutian' having a 'light-bulb moment" that presumably led him to leave the fellowship. It's all good. Posted by: Aleutian Date: January 09, 2019 09:12PM I recently recalled a time I was volunteering working on ¨G and M´s¨ luxury home on
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"Always thinking I needed to work harder...give up more" That's a recurring theme on the various forums discussing this cult. Posted by: Liamthomasusa Date: November 10, 2019 03:06PM Imapurple After reading your last post my emotions welled up within me....remembering that time when serving TLW or prioritizing Shiloh as the number one focus of my life... lots of sweat
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From November of 2018: Posted by: lone.wolf Date: November 19, 2018 08:22AM I am a new user to this forum, but have been following the most recent comments since Shalom’s letters were made public. In time I would like to start reading from the beginning of the entire forum; I’m sure it will answer questions I cannot find elsewhere. For days I’ve struggled with what to say, what not to
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You are an enemy of the church. Thanks! I didn't mean it as a compliment. Oh... Hey, do you want to do lunch? I'm famished.
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Continuing to serve cult leaders should not be considered "going forward." That's the warped mindset someone who has been robbed of self-esteem by long term exposure to the "living word." Those who chose to leave the cult, creating the opportunity to live a much healthier life--which includes the freedom to make their own decisions--are the ones going forward. They'
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Three massive egos demanding absolute obedience from members of the fellowship 24/7. It was hard not to notice that when things didn't go their way, each one would yield to a 'bad spirit'...and spin it, of course, as God's righteous anger. Such a delight. :) Reep wrote: Also, for the record, John Robert Stevens never in his life was anything even remotely resembling a &qu
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For the record, I don't think it is anyone's business how clean someone else's pipe is. Even for TLWF, that inquiry is going too far. #FocusOnYourOwnPipe
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Is it possible for God to see a person if they have bangs? (asking for a friend)
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A justifiable reason not to take your "walls" down: "I had a wall up to everybody because they were all morons." -Sam Davis (paraphrased) > Episode 2 of Oops! I'm in a cult. Eleni Davis and > son, Sam, open up about their years in the cult. > Excellent insights. I'm not sure why I'm still > somewhat surprised at revelations. > >
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You have an electric guitar? Yeah, I just bought it. Have you played it yet? No, right now I'm thinking about a song. If I think about it, I'll be able to play it. What song? Layla. I'm going to play both Eric Clapton and Duane Allman's parts at the same time--much better than they played it. Alright, this should be interesting. Go for it. (7 minutes
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Yes, I just confirmed this on a very reputable translation site: Enter Text divinely appointed Translation self-appointed FCSLC Wrote: “dead weight” is another charged, cringeworthy and ridiculous sentiment belonging to the ongoing list of hustle terms headed by the all-time scam phrase, “divinely appointed.”
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True, FCSLC.
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What do you think of when you hear the phrase 'dead weight?' A 'living word' brought by Gary Hargrave. It's such a relief no longer being subjected to that!
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Thanks Puddington.
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From September of 2018: Posted by: reveal Date: September 08, 2018 09:18AM The "I don't want your shit on my calendar" response on the part of that pastor is so indicative of LW shepherds' dismissive and demeaning attitudes towards sheep. You can't tell me that woman has a "shepherd's heart", LOL. They are so careless and reckless with people's
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An eventful year, for sure: Posted by: changedagain Date: November 20, 2018 09:45AM Wishing everyone in this forum a Happy Thanksgiving. It's been a pleasure conversing with you during this eventful year. In fact, I'm almost at the point where..assuming I ever get a calendar...I would definitely consider putting your sh*t on it. That's a big 'breakthrough'(sorry f
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"I still think nothing will ever be as bad as hurricane Marilyn." (former cult member who wishes to remain anonymous)
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"It's a matter of time before it implodes." A post from ten years ago: Posted by: sierradawn Date: July 12, 2013 12:01PM Quote changedagain My wife knew your parents well. She too originated from Yakima, during the time period you mentioned. Thank you for posting this. It's saturated with a great deal of insight, and though painful to absorb, should greatly help tho
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And now for something completely different: Romeo and Juliet
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From December of 2019: Posted by: 4generation Date: December 27, 2019 09:28AM Welcome Powertrip, so good to see another brazilian posting here. Unfortunately what you shared with us is not a surprise to me and only shows how deceived we have been for decades in this church. For me who was born into this cult and spent years serving these "men of God," cleaning their homes,
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Discussion group stats: Posts: 12,389 Page views: 3,469,477 note: This is the 25th year I have been driving the L.A. freeways without a covering. I have no idea why I keep testing fate. Anyway, wish me the best.
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"Autocratic leaders often lie as a way of demonstrating how powerful they are - so powerful they can bend the truth, deny reality. -Anne Applebaum
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Changed4me wrote: To be clear, there were several woman prior to Marilyn who were thought to be groomed as John's right hand support ministry... it was not just Marilyn. Ultimately she became the final chosen one. A belated congrats to Marilyn.
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And then there's this: Posted by: Invisible Date: September 19, 2014 02:27AM I was told that at the end of the memorial service, a love offering was taken up for the children of the man who had died. After the memorial service was over, one of the family members went to the ministry who was in charge of the offering. Instead of receiving the offering taken up for the children, they w
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From February of 2014: Posted by: changedagain Date: February 04, 2014 06:18AM paleface Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There actually are a few dead bodies in the > wake of the SS TLW. Several suicides from people > that felt they could never measure up to the > demands made by shepherds. I can't help but think > they would be al
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Bears repeating... Posted by: rrmoderator Date: July 16, 2013 05:53PM Ten warning signs of a potentially unsafe group/leader. Absolute authoritarianism without meaningful accountability. No tolerance for questions or critical inquiry. No meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget, expenses such as an independently audited financial statement. Unreasonable fear about the
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Saw enough wrote: Or now being told that Gary & Marilyn's prayers for the Catholic church resulted in the election of the current pope I wonder if the pope was aware of their role in getting him elected, and if so, he even bothered thanking them. I don't mean to cast aspersions toward the pope. It's just something that crossed my mind. #Gratitude
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