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10 months ago
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Thankfully, I was long gone before this bizarre (even by TLWF standards) service took place. I suppose there is no better time to confess your sins than on Easter Sunday ;) Posted by: Reepicheep Date: April 21, 2019 10:57PM To all those who frequent these virtual halls, I wish you a happy Easter, or Resurrection Day, or day that TLWF eschewed in favor of Passover. In all of Christendom, t
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10 months ago
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Posts by kBOY and Chachakitty from November 26, 2019: Posted by: kBOY Date: November 26, 2019 06:26AM C H A c h a You provided a succinct summation of the core 'reality' of TLW. Apparently, no one had the decency to inform us we were all dwelling in FantasyLand for decades. I'm sure RickDisney had a hand in maintaining the illusion, seeing as how his 'vision'
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10 months ago
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Reep wrote: Hopefully, this will never happen again anywhere in Iowa, especially in what used to be Shiloh. Marilyn's funeral sounds like a clown show. I hope that the illustrious leaders felt good about themselves. Their special seats amounted to thirty pieces of silver for throwing the rest of us to the wolves for so many years. true reveal wrote: Four, at the reception everyone wa
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10 months ago
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A few posts from April of 2019: Posted by: puddington Date: April 09, 2019 02:17AM Prettyboy - You say that we are letting Gary & Rick win. I’m not really keeping score and I’ve already prepared myself for an outcome where they both walk free. As far as I am concerned, the war is over souls and setting the captives free. By that metric, we won already. So many people are free now. Gar
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10 months ago
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I don't know, Camus. I see that you've asked about Larson in a previous post. I think he is involved as a board member of the Jerusalem Center. Posted by: Camus Date: February 05, 2019 12:20PM Does anyone know happened to Bruce Larson of the San Diego church? Fired? Still active? Or simply moved on? Posted by: kBOY () Date: January 15, 2021 06:41PM "Gary Hargr
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10 months ago
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Forgoing groceries... Posted by: Chachakitty Date: November 25, 2019 02:57PM And Gary is very much living in reality. He already knew the cult was going to end prior to Shalom's post. Peaced out and is going to something different. No remorse. Bc he knew the hold time he was leading members in a fantasy world while in reality here on earth he was playing King and taking everyone’s mo
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10 months ago
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Imapurple wrote: Also them showing me a check for 30k that someone had just given them. Possible response that is unlikely to be well-received: 'Wow--that's fantastic! God is helping you help fund the Shiloh Senior Center!!'
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11 months ago
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Cruelty was the order of the day, Reep. Oh well, Marilyn is gone...and Gary has moved on to a higher calling he created. Posted by: Imapurple Date: November 01, 2019 10:52AM Seeing Donna in the middle yard with the baby while G&M were beginning their relationship ( while JRS was in bed dying) was heartbreaking. I remember one time while in Shiloh G&M putting Donna down and thin
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11 months ago
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Reep wrote: Also, someone wanted to buy flowers for the front porch. A few people shared the cost, but we were told not to put our names on the card, because we shouldn't try to get credit for doing something nice. Hi Marilyn, Since I know I will not receive brownie points for sharing in the cost, I decided to not contribute. Sincerely, You-Know-Who
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11 months ago
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that little red flag wrote: Long story short, come Monday after they had left, I was directed to gather and repackage everything, even if it had been used and return it all for a refund. Well, knowing what we know now, I think your response to this directive should have been: "I don't want your shit on my calendar!" :) Posted by: I_woke_up Date: September 07, 2018 06:08PM
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11 months ago
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I haven't opened a Bible for a very long time, but there are still a few scriptures that I hold dear to my heart, and can accurately quote. Like this one: "Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none. My worldwide ministry hasn't taken off yet." -Acts 3:6
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11 months ago
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Reep wrote: I, too, believed all of those things for many years, even after leaving the cult. And finally, I had to begin dealing with my own cognitive dissonance. Yes, the vision of the Kingdom John supposedly had back in '72, is a big one. Many life decisions were heavily influenced by that "vision." Of course, there was never an acknowledgement by a TLWF authority to the con
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11 months ago
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Reep wrote: These are the things that I was told to believe about JRS, and so even when his actions, words and manner of relating to me didn't match these beliefs about him, I clung more desperately to those beliefs. Yes, I did the same thing. It took me a very long time to realize that these people I was exalting were basically self-absorbed assholes. Or as my Mom put it, the first time
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11 months ago
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And yet, some will live out their lives convinced that 'The Apostle' spoke a "word from God," was laying the foundation for the Kingdom age, and was motivated by a consuming love for God's people. Those who had personal encounters with him as lowly 'sheep,' however, tended to think otherwise. A couple posts from FoolMeTwice...suggests that who he presented himse
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11 months ago
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Recalling (again) what I consider to be the most unintentionally hilarious question ever asked of John Robert Stevens, by a member of the congregation: "IF YOU ARE NOT THE CHRIST, THEN WHO THE HELL ARE YOU?" -Happy Clark (RIP) note: John left the question unanswered, fueling further speculation within the fellowship that he indeed was the Christ (along with thousands of others
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11 months ago
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And, thanks again to Rick Ross for this site.
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11 months ago
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FCSLC wrote: Epicurus (341–270 B.C.E.). Psychological degradation through cult fear and indoctrination even back then. No wonder it’s so hard to combat. Posted by: changedagain Date: March 22, 2020 11:30PM puddington wrote: I liked the podcast. It’s difficult to include everything in that podcast. There is so much material. One thing missing that I would have liked to have been discussed
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11 months ago
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Excellent--thanks FCSLC. Been missing you here...can't get enough of the "enemy of the church," I guess. :)
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11 months ago
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Reep wrote: For old time's sake, if you will. I wonder if he had any specific thoughts on how The Father would punish those who refused to bow? Horrible car wrecks? I fear being taken out by a space laser, controlled by The Father. /s
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11 months ago
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But his fear-mongering was definitely noticed on this forum. :) That it was, Reep.
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11 months ago
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The "father" that Gary would refer to in his messages seemed to have a perpetually bad attitude, and issued not-so-veiled threats to those who weren't sufficiently obedient to him. Somehow I think this "father" only resides in Gary's head. But this mythical father accomplished the task of scaring people enough to maintain control over their lives, so he did his job.
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11 months ago
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Well, to your credit you recognized facts, and changed your mind. We evolve with new information...at least that is something to aspire to. Good to hear from you, Twoteetwo. #PrayForGeorgia Maybe before I die I will quit trusting that any man or ministry is incorruptible. Yes, a goal for all of us.
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11 months ago
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Also, obedience is highly overrated. It seems as though sociopaths are fixated on people being obedient to them--a central requirement of anyone who attempts to relate to them. Definitely a deal breaker--or, in the case of those still hoodwinked, it should be.
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12 months ago
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Onion wrote: My cousin in Iowa shared with me that the English River offshoot of Shiloh, had an email from Steve Seboldt (which was read aloud in their Zoom service) where he said TLW is moving to Georgia. He also said the TLW properties in California are all up for sale. He also congratulated them on continuing to have services. He also asked for money. Also, the house in Kalona where Chris an
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1 year ago
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And no, I will not be making a snarky comment about the devil going to Georgia. I've decided to comment with less sarcasm this year. It's a new day!
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1 year ago
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Did I mention pray for Georgia? My memory is not what it used to be. :)
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1 year ago
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I've received word (FD group on FB) that TLW his selling all its Ca properties and relocating to Georgia. If this pans out, I'm certain it will be a relief to Ca. Frankly, I'm worried for Georgia. Pray for Georgia!! note: Anyone know whether any of the proceeds of the sale of Ca properties will go into Hargrave Ministries...supporting his worldwide ministry? Curious.
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1 year ago
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A few posts from September 24-25 of 2018: Posted by: puddington Date: September 24, 2018 02:39AM This request for feedback by TLWF from former members has my distrust alarms going off. While I certainly have plenty to write about, I doubt that I will send anything in. For three basic reasons: 1. I suspect they are merely collecting evidence to better prepare TLW to defend themselves le
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1 year ago
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rrmoderator: Please stay on topic. Sorry about that--won't happen again. Hopefully, I'll quickly come to the place where I will have no inclination to comment on politics any time, any where.
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