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14 days ago
changedagain
Welcome, Hg2au I identify with everything you wrote.
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14 days ago
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From June of 2018--responding to a dire warning contained within a "living word." Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: Cloudwatcher () Date: June 17, 2019 01:57PM > "Our Survival Is Based On Obedience" > June 29, 2018 - by Gary Hargrave > "This Word shows us that as we move out of a place > of relative safety
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
15 days ago
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kBOY, I have to say my time in the 70's was no great hardship and at least a little exciting, as I participated like many, moving around to different facilities, communal homes, 'businesses', worked for next to nothing, or for nothing, etc. I did end up with a great family out of my 35 years, for which I am thankful, but as we all painfully know, the ride was not as smooth for man
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
16 days ago
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This post by 'typer' from October of last year: This Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: typer Date: October 24, 2019 08:29AM After my wife's money ran out, she got a job at Singer Sewing company in Panorama City for I think $1.35 / hour (min. wage) and still worked full time at LWB in printing. I worked at the saw mill in Iowa and Shil
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17 days ago
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A post by FilthyApron from November of 2-14: Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: filthy apron () Date: November 01, 2014 03:51PM I'm a part of the much maligned 3rd generation (LOL) so most of those names I recognize but were not around when I was in Colorado. My parents came into the church in 1971 at Grace Chapel and also attended Church of His
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
17 days ago
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10,763 comments 1,501,000 page views Next time someone tells me to "get a life"--probably within the next half hour or so--I will respond with "I do have a life. I participate in an online discussion group about a small cult!" That will put them in their place. /s
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
17 days ago
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kBOY: One could also characterize it as the human version of a surveillance environment, where actions were closely monitored for the sake of the 'greater cause'. Yes, the 'greater cause' being the need of a very few to control and enrich themselves at the expense of the rank and file. BTW, on a positive note, I hear significant progress is being made in the independe
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
18 days ago
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Post by 'Paleface' from March of 2014: Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: paleface () Date: March 25, 2014 03:20AM John S. (the former Palmer Lake pastor) tells kids at the Shiloh summer camp “let me be a REAL father to you, since your blood father isn’t able to be that for you.” Some kids bite at this bait and it is very destructive to thei
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19 days ago
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True, kBOY. I like how Woodrow Nichols (sp) characterized the intercession: "It was like a pep rally in an insane asylum." (something like that)
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
19 days ago
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'Bad Spirit' responses continued: John: Minister to me, and I will tell you what is wrong with you. Member: How about you don't minister to me, and I will tell you what is wrong with you? Pastor: I don't want your sh*t on my calendar. Member: Where do you want it? Marilyn: Sit down, shut up and listen. Member: Is it O.K. if I take a nap? Gary: It's
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
19 days ago
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Imapurple Wrote: > I like to think I’m free from it all but > I realize I’m not. All of my friends and just > about everyone in my life were or still are part > of this. I say this because my heart goes out to > those feeling the same. I’m working away at it. > When you’re part of something so huge from such a > young age and with it mixed with a great deal of > g
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
20 days ago
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From October of 2006--a young adult describing his/her YASP experience at Shiloh: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: recoveredfinally Date: October 07, 2006 10:46AM Shiloh really was a slave camp. I was forced to work all day long in the blazing heat cutting rose bushes one summer. I fainted from exhaustian. Most summers were spent like this: wake up a
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
21 days ago
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Just because I have been highly critical of TLWF leadership the past 15 years or so, does not mean I have stopped tithing to the church--even after it dissolved. I hope people here haven't made that assumption. Anyway, have a great weekend! If possible, do something in the public interest. /s
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
22 days ago
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An excerpt from a post by 'Paleface' (September 2013): Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: paleface Date: September 27, 2013 09:27PM What will the future bring to the Living Word? If I may speculate, here's my predictions..... I predict that with membership dropping, churches will continue to shut down. I suspect that DC will be
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
23 days ago
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NancyB Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ChangedAgain wrote, "I like to go back in time, > reread posts from various contributors, and share > some of them." > > Changed, You rock! Thanks. > > 'Going back to reread' is an excellent way to > bring more clarity for all of us. For newbies who > don't have
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
23 days ago
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This sentiment expressed by 'Road to Damascus' is shared by many here (I think): Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: Road to Damascus Date: November 09, 2019 03:14PM Interesting how I feel that the buildings at Shiloh are being emptied, auction to be held on the 23rd and the building to be totally shut down forever. An end of an era. Amazing
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
23 days ago
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NancyB Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > WOW! Thanks ChangedAgain for re-posting the > Excerpt of a post by 4generation approx three > months ago: I like to go back in time, reread posts from various contributors, and share some of them.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
23 days ago
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A post by 'lone.wolf' from December of 2018: Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: lone.wolf Date: December 20, 2018 06:45AM Update today from TLWF website regarding the independent investigation that will take place: I wonder if they have made any headway with this independent investigation. Perhaps the independent investigators gav
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
24 days ago
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I know this is redundant but remember I am only one month old to this site so give me some newbie credit! I give you credit, Powertrip. Your posts hit the mark (IMO). Welcome aboard!
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
25 days ago
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kBOY wrote: The compartmentalization allowed most of this to be hidden from the 'unwashed masses' who supplied the upward flow, while JRS continued the charade by tickling our ears with flowerly words of being God's gift to the world, until we slowly realized we were not. Yes Excerpt of a post by 4generation approx three months ago: Posted by: 4generation Date: October
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
26 days ago
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approximately a year ago I predicted that there would be dwindling interest in what is written here Hey, I never claimed to be a prophet. O.K.--maybe once or twice...perhaps even three times--but that's it!
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
26 days ago
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BTW, approximately a year ago I predicted that there would be dwindling interest in what is written here...just because the discussion has gone on for so long (15 years), and seemingly every topic has been dealt with extensively. However, this past year people who had not previously posted came forward with their stories...and the core group of posters have continued contributing. Interest has ac
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
26 days ago
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Welcome Mined! Excellent post, ending with a pertinent question. No idea, but there definitely is an attempt to rally people...perhaps as a defense against all the so-called "lies" that have spread on social media. p.s. I am experiencing yet another Sunday without being browbeaten by a "living word." I will never tire of this clarity :)
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
26 days ago
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Yes, kBoy. Making the transition from being someone's property to thinking freely is not an easy feat. One hurdle is just recognizing that your self-worth has nothing to with what you can provide a pampered narcissist. Also, not buckling and returning to bondage once you face the inevitable backlash that comes with making your own decisions, and reclaiming your life. Making mistakes that com
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
27 days ago
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eBay listing: Anointed Purple Cow Tag Earrings Item Condition: Like new (worn once) Time Left: 180d 04h Price: US $40.00
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27 days ago
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Reepicheep Wrote: > Yes changedagain, I bought the poster. Also a pair > of those unfortunate purple cow tag earrings. ; ) I'm assuming you stopped wearing them ;)
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
27 days ago
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Reepicheep Wrote: > I wonder if they will make posters out of this > master plan? Then we can all buy them and hang > them on the wall. I never bought one of those. Did you get one? BTW, I would have bought a poster of Rick's horse, assuming it didn't cost more that $40.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
27 days ago
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JesusJesusJesus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Look! A brand new "master plan" for the Shiloh > property. > > > ? Thanks, JJJ. We'll see how it unfolds. As we know, plans vs. execution have often been divergent in TLWF history. Any idea who the developer is?
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
28 days ago
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kBOY wrote: Following the $$$ scenarios in TLW has seemed to have been an impressive shell-game/black hole, where the sources for all the $$$ were never allowed to know where it went, and don't even THINK about asking. Yes, asking questions can lead to the threat of physical harm. Best just to be docile/obedient. In any event, 'The Lord' will work everything out ;)
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