Two more links in case you're interested. Pathology as personal growth: Mary Polaski (psychologist):
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suspect wrote: QuoteI am a licensed therapist What kind of therapist? A massage therapist? If you are a psychologist or in any way working in the field of mental health, please provide your license registration number and other details, so that people who are already traumatized and suffering know where NOT to go for treatment. Also, you wrote: QuoteIf you have gone and are fee
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suspect wrote: QuoteDiscovery is indeed a large group awareness training of sorts, but it is by no means a cult. Cults make sure that all members believe the same things Then how come you're using the same jargon, concepts and thought-stopping cliches that all the other defenders of not only this lgat, but all the other lgats in the world, use? Though nobody is claiming that every
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The standard line that quest takes on the basic courses is that they are philosophical, not religious. If you are religious, quest will enhance your spirituality (sure enough, the religious people all thought they saw god in the dyad process) and if you're not religious quest will work for you and doesn't require any religious beliefs (non-religious people saw Paris Hilton, rainbows, s
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Hi Brad, I hate to look like a scaredy-cat, but I think you're right about the fear. The fear on its own is one thing but the total mind-destroyer is the combination of extreme fear and stress one minute, then love-bombing the next. That's totally cruel and hideous. And its a classic pattern from an abusive relationship as well - violent assault one minute, followed by flowers
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A side note on this, to do with why some people are more damaged than others by the training: yes there may be some pre-dispositional factors, but another huge factor is the randomness of the training, the fact that even though the process is so scripted and controlled, different people get into different roles, and get RANDOMLY thrown together with other group members, creating a totally chaotic
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exImpact wrote: Quote: QuoteThis is their explanation from the Trainer In Training cult perspective: “Well, we make agreements with each other in the pre-mortal life to teach each other and learn from each other. So in fact, you did agree to be molested, you just don’t remember because the mortal veil has been placed over your eyes that you might not see so you can have this mortal experienc
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Quoterrmoderator wrote: QuotePlease stay on topic and focused. Rswinters1 has been banned.
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Quote Brad69 Senior Member Joined: 03 Jul 2006 Posts: 165 Location: South Africa Posted: 08-30-2007 02:25 PM Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It seems to me that the foremost claim LGATs make is that they teach people how to empower themselves. Nothing could be further from the truth! People attend
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Quote Brad69 Senior Member Joined: 03 Jul 2006 Posts: 165 Location: South Africa Posted: 08-30-2007 02:25 PM Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It seems to me that the foremost claim LGATs make is that they teach people how to empower themselves. Nothing could be further from the truth! People attend
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rswinters is gone, but continued just in case>> Quoteskeptic wrote: One more thing, the fact that subjects don't know they've been indoctrinated is what makes it very tricky to deprogram. Also, I have presented a lot of this information to my programmed sister and she CANNOT see what happened. THAT IS SCARY! She takes the lgat at face value and repeatedly tells me tha
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I have copied the bulk of the off-topic parts of the conversation to a the genesis thread, where recovery and religion are on-topic, for anyone who would like to continue the off-topic aspects of this discussion.
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I am copying this conversation over from the quest thread, in case anyone would like to continue the discussion - unfortunately it was off-topic on the quest thread because it went too far into issues of recovery and religion, but I would not like for anyone to feel censored. For the record, I don't personally object to people discussing religion when it is on-topic, because the discussio
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Shadow, thanks for this, it is very interesting: Quote"The inference consisten with these reports is that psychological distrubance is more likely to be induced when targets of the influence process actively participate in group-based interaction and have been induced to tell the group about their histories and sentiments. One explanation for the relationship is that public exposure o
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Rs, I hope what you're saying is true. You keep saying you're leaving, and then you come back. If you want to leave, leave. If you don't want to "engage", don't post. Very simple. Three pages later... :!:
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Rswinters wrote: QuoteEven in my faith there is no room to blame the devil for my behavior. Very impressive. I don't blame the easter bunny for my behaviour.
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Rswinters wrote: Quote I hope the best for your recovery from Quest in your life. God Bless you. Rswinters God bless me? If I may quote Richard Dawkins: “The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, rac
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Its the topic of the whole forum, not this particular thread. Here is a specific thread on recovery: Aside from that lecturing other people from the bible on whether or not to be angry is not part of lgats or recovering them. Nor is telling people to be responsible and dig deep to find the dirt that you think got them into an lgat part of the recovery process. Considering this type
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Rswinters, I welcomed you to post on this thread about relationships, within the context of lgats. That was in order to be gracious so as to overcome our previous disagreement in which you caused a conflict by preaching your religious views and making unpleasant personal comments about me, and also because I thought you would have the good sense and common courtesy to keep whatever you had to sa
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Rs, I'm not trying to be rude to you. But you're basically telling people here to stand up and 'share' and 'be at cause' for their experience. Its like being right back in a training room. Lgats con people, whether they were searching or not, had problems or not. If you think its relevant, fine, but why insult everyone else? Why is that every time you find somet
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Rs, you're walking a very fine line here. Anyone can look at their life and find a problem that might have pushed them towards an lgat. But what you are saying is leaning quite heavily towards the idea of 'being at cause' for getting into an lgat. If others want to do that, that is okay by me. But I will not, and I don't like the tone you're taking on this, telling ot
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Skeptic, you're right, its crazy. You try tell people they're brainwashed to believe they chose everything, and they say no, its not true, I chose to believe that :!: As for the legal side - you need a license to charge someone for a haircut, or to fix their plumbing, but turning people's minds and personalities inside out - :?:
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exImpact wrote: QuoteThis is their explanation from the Trainer In Training cult perspective: “Well, we make agreements with each other in the pre-mortal life to teach each other and learn from each other. So in fact, you did agree to be molested, you just don’t remember because the mortal veil has been placed over your eyes that you might not see so you can have this mortal experience. With o
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Question Lady wrote: QuoteThe concepts sound just like The Release Technique - the mind is like a computer, past programming. They don't say "at cause" and "at effect' that i know of. (geez, talk about terms that no one outside the LGATcan understand) but rather 'ego' or 'ego/mind' versus "beingness". Several people, in
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Maxui wrote: QuoteSo I went to a presentation evening at her request. The thing that got me interested was the concept of cellular memory. I have mentioned before that I am a practitioner of Chinese Gong Fu and the idea that I could "absorb" knowledge into my very cells was extremely interesting to me. Is this the same 'cellular memory' that L. Ron Hubbard postul
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While we're on the subject of "being at cause", the opposite of that (and only other option in the lgat paradigm) is "going into effect". "Going into effect" means that you react automatically to the world around you, like a machine or a computer, based on your "programming" which is based on past experience. When y
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Shad, get those boots on! And don't forget my commission... :wink:
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Okay Maxui, sorry, no more bad infantile humour from me, I promise. May I ask, who recruited you into Insight? Was it a friend or family member? Also, did you ever assist / staff?
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Forgot the link for "Pathology as personal growth":
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Question lady wrote: QuoteIt's another example of taking a perfectly good word - 'Responsibility" and twisting it to mean something else entirely. From their definition, the word that comes to mind isn't 'responsibility' but rather 'God-like omnipotence'....It's a partial truth. I think it's good to ask 'How did i create this in my lif
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