Hi Jeri, I can relate to this, it sounds like me: Quote I felt invigorated. I noticed a change in my attitude towards my husband, my family and friends. I felt like I had been transformed and enlightened to the point I was walking around with my nose in the air thinking my shit didn’t stink. ..except that I also I remember I felt lonely, I felt like I HAD left them behind. One of my frie
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Question Lady, thanks, i think you're right as usual :lol: Quote wonder if it is a way of breaking down a person's individuality by getting them to behave in conformity with certain gender stereotypes. Yes, that makes sense. The three things that brings to mind are: 1. People who don't follow strict stereotypes are more likely to be non-conformists; their appearance i
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Some new research on out-of-body experiences: Quote Out-of-body experience recreated Near-death events have triggered out-of-body experiences Experts have found a way to trigger an out-of-body experience in volunteers. The experiments, described in the Science journal, offer a scientific explanation for a phenomenon experienced by one in 10 people. Two teams used virtual real
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Thanks, enviro_cop, fascinating to read how it looks to someone on the outside. Our graduation at Quest was a bit more low-key, just people sitting together, a little music and a lot of stories about magically transformed lives. Can you please explain what you mean by: Quotethe program uses ... classic Ericsonian type stories to set triggers to remind them where to get their next fix,
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The basic training at Quest was gender-neutral but in the advanced courses it quickly moved on to very strict gender rules like: Men must be Men, Women must be Women. The formal definition of this was something like "As long as women are girls looking for father figures, and men are boys looking for father figures, they can't have proper relationships". But in pr
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The same site has a good list of elements of mind control: QuoteMind Control techniques include: Hypnosis Inducing a state of high suggestibility by hypnosis, often thinly disguised as relaxation or meditation. Quest - Guided visualizations and meditation to open your skull to the sky and root your feet to the ground while you relax your body done several times on Quest. Closed-
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The London Cult Information Centre splits cults into two types: religious cults and therapy cults. QuoteReligious Cults * Communal living common. * Members may leave or not join society's workforce. * Average age at the point of recruitment is in the 20's. * Registered as religious groups. * Appear to offer association with a group interested in making the world a better plac
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Thanks Hopeful Soul, that's what I was getting at - what makes Impact different other than the doctrine. Much appreciated.
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Shadow, I think you are confusing Quest south africa with Impact's quest course. They're different organisations, your doctor was probably talking about Quest south africa :)
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Just some notes on the different types of anti-cult or counter-cult information, organisation and websites out there, for anyone doing research or looking for info. From "Secular and Religious Critiques of Cults: Complementary Visions, Not Irresolvable Conflicts" - Michael D. Langone, Ph.D. I've highlighted four types of cult critiques proposed by Introvig
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Moderator, can you please clarify which person or people your message is intended for? Please also clarify what you mean by preaching and whether it is within the rules to post on the thread "Impact and Religion" about the religious behaviour and teachings of Impact and its leaders. Thanks.
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Question Lady wrote: QuoteThose who have been directly negatively affected get to decide what has been harmful to them. When large numbers of people report having been harmed by similar groups, I tend to believe them. The other way I determine this is by asking myself how I would feel if that were done to me? ... When I hear "who decides what is harmful" that sounds a
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Another PS: Those rationalist labels don't say much, it might be easier to summarize the criticisms as "The problem with the group is..." 1. Fraudulent claims 2. Brainwashing 3. Flawed Theology 4. The Devil's work It would be interesting to see which of the four different types people here believe are the problems, using the labels to avoid going into detai
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Thanks Hopeful Soul. From "Secular and Religious Critiques of Cults: Complementary Visions, Not Irresolvable Conflicts" - Michael D. Langone, Ph.D. I've highlighted four types of cult critiques proposed by Introvigne: QuoteIntrovigne proposes that religious and secular critiques of cults fall into a four‑category classification system. Secular
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Hi bigdog QuoteLarge Group Awareness Training is a type of brainwashing method employed by certain organizations in order to make a profit. Is that correct? Is there more? Less? You could add: Large Group Awareness Training is a type of brainwashing method sold by certain organizations, under the guise of 'personal growth' in order to make a profit. Most lgats are deriv
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Why do I feel like Alice in Wonderland? QuoteMystical manipulation is the perception of coincidental or inevitable events as spiritual signs. Recruits are trained that such signs are symbols of the greatness of the group. That's from "Cults 101" An example of mystical manipulation: Hopeful Soul wrote: QuoteThe symbolism here is strong with the fig tree c
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PS dazedandconfused, I'm not referring to your "be nice" comment to ex about the billboards, that was a totally different category (humorous category :) ) but to the pious "be nices" that were floating around a few weeks back before this thread went so dreadfully quiet, apart from the very informative arrival of Impacted.
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Hi Impacted. My opinion - as an Impact outsider, but still someone who arrived at this board and read this thread from page 1 to the end - is that a document summary as you've described would help get the core facts through quicker and easier. It would also be helpful because it would be in the database under the list of destructive groups, and I guess a lot of people search the database b
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QuoteSane, I have some, somewhere in my file cabinet. And I actually have the pillows and padded mallets somewhere in storage. :lol: Thanks Vic-luc, by the way, I've been looking around for a south african equivalent of the national board you mentioned, but there doesn't seem to be anything. There are regulations governing licensed therapists - not useful, since quest are not l
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Okay, leaving aside the crazy I AM business of Inquest, there is the dyad process on quest, which is based on Berne's Transactional Analysis intimacy experiment and works precisely like this: Quote The Intimacy Experiment. In the early 1960s Eric Berne conducted a social experiment with members of his Tuesday evening seminar. This so-called Intimacy Experiment was designed to find
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:oops: Posted this on wrong thread, sorry....
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Okay, leaving aside the crazy I AM business of Inquest, there is the dyad process on quest, which is based on Berne's Transactional Analysis intimacy experiment and works precisely like this: Quote The Intimacy Experiment. In the early 1960s Eric Berne conducted a social experiment with members of his Tuesday evening seminar. This so-called Intimacy Experiment was designed to find
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*sigh* This page has a summary of quotes and references to the "I AM" sayings of Jesus in the fourth gospel, related to god the "I AM" *bigger sigh* And then there is the Church Universal and Triumphant, ascended masters revealed by saint germain and the I AM presence: *even bigger sigh* Some more saint germaine followers... the &
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Also, about those contracts, the majority of the contracts are in the format of "I AM ....." eg "I AM Alive" or "I AM Beautiful". Compare to the bible: Exodus 3:14 God said to Moses, "I am who I am . This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.' " I'm not religious, so I do
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Thanks Shadow, here is an opinion of it, from a review of Singer and Lalich's book "Crazy Therapies" QuoteCathartic theories are based on the notion that if you express your emotions you will purge yourself of your troubles. There is no proof for this notion, despite its popularity since the time of Aristotle. This notion would seem to have been disproved by experiment
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billy-g, if you don't mind me asking, how were you affected by your friend's involvement and what kind of changes did you notice in them?
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Billy-g, thank you for your message: Quote By the time my friend had witnessed the charming bait strike a women on the course hard across the face and then jump on top of her when she fell to the floor, in a true show of absolute rage (to help this other woman of course), it was too late. The damage had been done. The abuse had been administered, the brainwashing had been achieved and the fe
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formerimpactgrad, sounds like you found the guy lurking outside in the bushes, and had to drag him in by the scruff of his neck! :lol:
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Hi Shadow, I know what you mean about sounding like a plant. Suspect, the problem is that every single post we've ever seen on this site from someone supporting an lgat says the same thing as your's did. Some of them do turn out to be trolls, people working for the lgats and posting here in an attempt at damage control. Rather than be offended or imagine that Shadow is paranoid, pl
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Suspect, thank you for taking the time to read some articles. I am relieved you are not recommending the courses to clients. May I ask you to consider one more thing: If you ever get a client who has had a negative experience after the training, even if they don't directly link that to the training, could you consider refering them to someone more neutral? Based on my own experienc
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