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If you get a chance, read the book, "Kingdom Lost" by Mark Vrankovich. It will make the hair on the back of your neck stand up.
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QuoteTruthAfterDisillusionmentI would like to bring some thoughts of mine to the table as I see them. And I think it relates to TPC. As a pastor, what responsibility do I have to correct another pastor? Is it my job to tell them they are believing heresy? Is it their job to preach against another church or its leadership? -One might say that it is and have a good case too, for many
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QuoteTruthAfterDisillusionmentI would like to bring some thoughts of mine to the table as I see them. And I think it relates to TPC. As a pastor, what responsibility do I have to correct another pastor? Is it my job to tell them they are believing heresy? Is it their job to preach against another church or its leadership? -One might say that it is and have a good case too, for many
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This was meant to be included on the last post. Good questions. Just so you know. I dont glory in the cross. Nor is the cross my central focus. I glory in Christ. He is my focus. I would be suspect of any church leader who says the cross is their focus. We do not worship the cross any more than we worship a tree. Is the cross more important than the empty tomb? Is the cross more import
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QuoteBraveHeartI ran across these questions the other day and the questions raised are valid... however here in Sacramento they at Radiant Life Cult would not put the pastor on the phone.........period! He is so protected by his sycophant staff that he will not do a phone interview.......PERIOD! Looking for a good church? Join the club. Church-shopping can be a long and painful proces
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Learning Point, hollar at me when your box has room.
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I have some questions about the "unity in the essentials, grace in the non-essentials. In all things, love" mantra. It was first spoken by Augustine. Not Paul, or John or Peter, or Jesus. So I wonder, what unity did Paul have with the false teachers of his day? I wonder, what unity did Jesus have with the Pharisees of his day? Jesus prayed that his disciples would be one "
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QuoteConcernedMarysvillePastorDear Truth After Disillusionment: Please don't mistake my deep love for Mike, Cyndi, Jeff and Kim (as well as others in leadership at TP) for acceptance of the NAR, the Word-Faith Prosperity doctrines or for condoning teachings like the "covering", "double honor" or the like. I believe that the idea of covering sets up unhealthy, unquesti
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QuoteTurningPointRejectQuotePhun with PhariseesI stand corrected Christine, I have used generalizations. I have not read ALL of the threads. I have wrongly lumped some into the group that don't deserve it (namely Northwest..and I'm sure there are others) but for the sake of my time(it would take a long time to read each post and subsequest response) and my sanity (I have sampled enoug
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To tell the truth, Wondering Now, It is a difficult journey. I find comfort in God's Word and in prayer, especially during those times when I begin to have doubts about the local church. I am thankful for each of you. Your Father Loves you. Thank you, both, for your heartfelt posts.
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QuotePhun with PhariseesI stand corrected Christine, I have used generalizations. I have not read ALL of the threads. I have wrongly lumped some into the group that don't deserve it (namely Northwest..and I'm sure there are others) but for the sake of my time(it would take a long time to read each post and subsequest response) and my sanity (I have sampled enough of the more venomous
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Proverbs 24 11 Rescue those being led away to death; hold back those staggering toward slaughter. 12 If you say, "But we knew nothing about this," does not he who weighs the heart perceive it? Does not he who guards your life know it? Will he not repay each person according to what he has done?
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QuoteConcernedMarysvillePastorI am a pastor in Marysville who has been recently invited to read this forum by some friends and former TP attendees in order to gain a better insight into the New Apostolic Reformation and the Word-Faith Prosperity teaching at TPWOC. PLEASE UNDERSTAND that it is not easy for a pastor to come on here and write. I love Mike and Cyndi, Jeff and Kim with all my heart.
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Turning Point Church the impact of covering theology
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I wonder how Mike justifies leaving the "covering" of the church of god. Under Cover by Bevere is all about the need to be under the covering of spiritual leaders and submitting to those leaders even when you believe they are wrong. And yet Mike, himself, seems to have done the exact opposite of what he expects of those who follow him. He wanted the church of god to ordain cy
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My kids listen to this program everyday. My 17 year old refuses to miss a day. So they were listening tonight and I couldn't help but think of Turning Point Church and how they push Under Cover by Brevere as well as the other reading assignments given to "disciples" and SOMA NW / Pacific Northwest Bible College. I think the stream is only available for a few days. Happy list
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QuotebuddyWhat denomination is Turning Point Church Lebanon ? Turning Point Church Lebanon is a multidenominational Christian church. We are a church plant of Turning Point Church World Outreach Center in Marysville, Washington and are a part of the Church of God Movement headquartered in Anderson, Indiana. Turning Point's blueprint for ministry is the Holy Bible. Therefore we are an elder-
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QuoteThe Phun Pharisee • Despite the flaws you all see God uses his churches including Turning Point Church to do great things. I know it pains you to hear that Turning Point Church is growing and bearing much fruit despite you attempts to the contrary. Thousands of public confessions to Jesus, Summer Jubilee, church plants just to name a few. What fruit do you bear? Oh I forgot, Pharisees do
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Read the following post from Phun Pharisee then compare and contrast with the article found at the link... QuotePhun with PhariseesGreetings All, I have been reading these posts for some time and I thought it might be prudent to post the rules of the forum as there seems to be blatant and repeated violations of the forum rules. As a refresher here are the stated rules that are being violated
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Hello Phun Pharisee, Again, I want to thank you for your post. I should let you know for your own sake that almost all who have come here, in the past, with the intent of defending TPc ultimately have decided to leave TPc. This would explain why your false teachers have forbade weakminded folks in their church from coming to this site. Your bandits have seen, first ha
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QuotePhun with PhariseesGreetings All, I have been reading these posts for some time and I thought it might be prudent to post the rules of the forum as there seems to be blatant and repeated violations of the forum rules. As a refresher here are the stated rules that are being violated. “Don't post false statements, contrived fiction, deliberately misleading statements, obscene, vulgar,
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Has anyone heard if Tony will be speaking at this years Strategic Advance Conference at Pacific Northwest Bible College (formerly known as SOMA NW)?
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Has anyone heard if Tony will be speaking at this years Strategic Advance Conference at Pacific Northwest Bible College (formerly known as SOMA NW)?
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