I posted this purely because I believe there is a issue that effects RR users - again i apologise for bad thread choice but i was honestly stumped where to post it. If the powers at be can shut down wikileaks by smearing Assange and using it to change freedom of information acts - then in the future they can shut down similar sites INCLUDING this one - Wikileaks have helped to expose cults so
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Interesting Posts on Cold Filter Regarding the Eucrio Scam "This concerns the general topic raised by Paul, including the legitimacy of Eucrio, which I and others consider very doubtful. Ben has now removed the Eucrio link from the Cryonics Institute web site. Robert Ettinger" "Wonderful, that's a fine start Robert. Don't let's let it end there thou
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"If of one person's right is destroyed, the right of all is destroyed" Wikileaks is important it has also helped people post info about Cults and Religous groups as well as political info as has been in the news lately. It would appear that Julian Assange is being smeared in attempt to silence him - this is not right Take minute to think about whether you agre
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lol - It was funnier than I remembered - If it doesnt make sense to you then i can explain the "street slang". I am actually less embarressed - Its about time there was some more emotion involved instead of just pussy footing around. I should get drunk more often - Im more honest about how I feel about things. I'm no academic - I don;t know how to post in "the proper
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You know what - I am rather glad my comment was deleted on less wrong - good reason for people not to post on there. They don;t like people who have something to say (even agressive CXXts like me) about there pet interests. Sure i went on there running my mouth off a bit and yes posting up messages when your a bit drunk is probably NOT the best way to get your point across but I was intend
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They have no sense of humour on lesswrong - and Mark Plus came out to play too with his chilean miners rant! I should ban myself from going online when "refreshed" ;) (Hic) - Seriously back to Suspended Animation inc acting dodgy: "Impersonating a Physician in Arizona 32-1455. Violation; classification A. The following acts are class 5 felonies:"
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LOL, I saw those postings by bwowk - Added your patents to less wrong forum with my rather agressive posting accusing bwowk of self interests and crankdom Also - it looks like the cold filter forum have started discussing the vampire link: - Good old FD is trying to rationlize it and failing.... + My Pal J - found this on the TOV cult:
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Here David Styles ADMITS PUBLICALLY on his personal Blog that he is involved with Temple of Vampires and the Church of Satan. Of course he is trying to "spin" it so his followers don;t thnk its so bad - Unfortunatly he can't deny his involvement any more without making himslef look even more untrustworthy - It is TRUE the vampire/satanic link and he is admitting it. So
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apparently George C Smith has been reported to the American Psychaitary Board Hopefully they will ask him why a Certified Mental Health Councillor has been abusing his qualifications and setting up dodgy cults that sell Cryonics. Heres hoping...
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maybe your right Stoic - Its just my impulse to downplay it but I don;t think the Temple of Vampires here are the same as other more "hardcore" vampires. Its true some pople take this a bit too far heres some more examples of the extreme vampire cults: Jessicas story: Heather Waldorf-Kelly: Rod Ferrell: HIV and Vampire Cults: This Temple of Vampire Cult seem to be more
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Agreed forget the "woo-woo" about the rituals and funny beliefs - I believe its just a smokesceen to what is really going on. I think the Vampires view themselves as the "freemasons" of the whole cryonics/life extension movement: Linguacelesta (Styles) posted this also - "And yet we make up a large portion of CI and Immortality Institute membership. We can't
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If its any help - I highlighed some more of the damning post's here: You are right - Mr Zawacki should know about this + anyone else involved in Imminst, Eucrio, CI, Suspended Animation, Cryonics UK and the other organisations who isnt in the vampire cult trying to be "puppet masters". You are being manipulated by..... Vampires - vam·pire    /&#712
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See the thing i like about the internet is that is doesn't lie - it just records. The web 2.0 marketing strategy for cryonics i has blown up in their faces - because in a sense they have been naive to what the internet actually does - Its not a big advertising space - - It simply records. They have put their names and faces everywhere spreading there cryonics propaganda and its recorde
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"Does Saul Kent know about David Styles involvement in the Temple of the Vampire and Church of Satan? Could Kent be a closet vampire and Satanist himself, perhaps?" :) - i remember reading somewhere about someone saying he looked like Beetlejuice! sorry had to laugh about that one - I was thinking more that Saul was probably more the Secret Head Vampire in the Lost Boy�
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interesting .... Cryonics UK's HQ is: Shao Yang Acupuncture and Chinese Herbal Medicine Clinic "Consultation: Free Initial Acupuncture Treatment: £45 per session (usually lasts 60 to 90 minutes) Follow-up Acupuncture Treatment: £35 per session (lasts 40 to 60 minutes) Dry Herbs: £6 per pack (for one or two days use) Acupressure (Tui Na): £35 per session (normally
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Yeah Ellen Clarke is his wife they are both really young David is about 25 and Ellen is 21 i think if the mail article is correct. So they were obviously "groomed" by George C smith from a young age - David has been in the vampire cult for about 5-6 years maybe longer - so there is something quite troubling about George Smith targeting kids in their late teens. Though it does tie in
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Highly speculative but this is what i gather from my sources: From what I can gather the Temple promises to sell its students the secret of immortality - the answer is cryonics. It starts with buying the book and ring - then they are encouraged to buy monthly membership. There are two sides to thier beliefs - "The Dayside Vampire is a practising transhumanist - we seize the use of emerg
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could be getting in trouble..
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sorry Shakti - It's not really my "research" - I had a person contact me via the Factsheet website who said they used to be in a Vampire Cult with David Styles of Eucrio infamy. They are pretty angry and its hard to tell how much of this is true which is why I just posted what they are saying without my opinion. I think the person is honest about what they experienced but theres
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I will do the best I can - But I am not going to pretend i make sense of it all myself. The story is George C Smith (AKA Lucas Martel/Nemo) has a backround of Dodgy "self-help" scams: Trancendal Meditation, Psychic readings, stock markets, Martial arts and something called "the anger cure". QuoteThe Temple of the Vampire is a cult which practices the religion of "V
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Many Thanks to G. for having the guts to post this stuff up - PLEASE CACHE I DONT THINK IT WILL STAY UP LONG - this is blatent cultlike behaviour by the TOV and cryonicists and discussions about how to cover up information that they feel damages thier cult. And a line reads: "Don't worry, I'm carrying more secrets than the Titanic, I can handle one more". - Ben Best.
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It the Children/Young People I feel sorry for - People are always pushing religions, Cults and strange idea's on their children. 2 Days of intense Brainwashing followed By a session with "Uncle Ben" and `Vampire Styles` in the Hot Tub Unsavoury - Any Cryonicist needs to keep their Kids away from these freaks.
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The Cryonics Cache was allegedly hacked but i have just been informed that it is back up. Wonder how long it will last this time...... XD
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"shudders" I remember the heavens gate thing - Louis Theroux covered it well in his book and with his weird weekends TV show. Theres more info here: Ben Best's comment on Euthanasia are also pretty irresponsible - Read between the lines of what he is actually here: If you are dying a slow painful death euthanasia and the untested unproven methods of cryopreservation are no
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LArry Johnson on Mike Perry -
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There are many way's to argue your point across. A Perfusionist/Doctor like Melody Maxim makes a excellent critic on the medical side of things as she can use the appropiate language and has a proper understanding of her arguments. Cryonic fanatic love to argue with scientists but sometimes the arguements are not just scientific. Enoonsti - like it or not people that are Currently r
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Melody on Fedowitz
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ah sometimes people just take things too seriously - myself included so for fun: Drac's Back I wanna suck your blood..... Lets face it thinking you can freeze someones dead bodie to save thier life in the future is actually pretty funny really! And Mike Perry did cut off his own penis as well - Apparently so it would not distract him anymore LOL - a Cryonic's Eun
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is this ennosti a bot? I cannot make head or tale of that - except that the bot likes the writings of Mike Perry (the guy that reputedly cut off his own manhood) - what kind of link is uggc://..... ???
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