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14 years ago
kath
QuoteMariah It would be wonderful if something COULD be done soon because if Christopher ends up in prison, that will certainly finish off the possibilities. He'll then have to carry these klingons into the next life - ( more mayhem). . No matter what someone's personal spiritual beliefs, Hansard has still done things that might require a legal response and there's no need for
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
kath
Just to clarify- my experience with the police was not with Hansard. You might have more success than me :)
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
kath
Quotejeff boweKath's comments "But he has never called himself 'Dr. Christopher Hansard' and pretended to have trained as a conventional medical doctor, has he?" That being so why, in his email to me, did Paul Nelson (Canada) refer to Hansard as Doctor. Well Hansard would dodge out of that by saying that he is not responsible for what these people write or the mi
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
kath
QuoteLilyMariah - I agree with you that Christopher's behaviour is abusive and, if he were a member of a professional body, he would surely be in breach of his ethical code - for abuse of power, dual relationships... Do other complimentary practitioners know - if he was not a voluntary member of a professional body (which I am assuming he was not), is there any other monitoring authority
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
kath
QuoteHDMDear Lily, please go back and check the bottom of page 29 where I wrote how a medical board CAN and WILL sue someone who misleads the public by pretending to be a doctor. But he has never called himself 'Dr. Christopher Hansard' and pretended to have trained as a conventional medical doctor, has he? That is the only instance where it would be a crime, impersonating a con
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
kath
You could also, arguably, charge him with fraud as he has knowingly fabricated his training.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
kath
QuoteChavah I believe that people can change, change their paths and their destinys. Just like you said Wisedup, "pull a '360". Yes but being faced with the possibility of charges for his actions needn't be a hindrance to Chris doing that. It would certainly make him think twice in future, and stop the likelihood of him doing that to someone else. Just saying, sometimes
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
kath
QuotepemaHello everyone, This is the first time I have been able to access this forum for app 2 weeks. I wrote several times to info@culteducation.com and received replies telling me the site was under hacker attack and could not be accessed from the UK. This I suspect is not entirely accurat
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
kath
Quotewisedup In the clinical situation I decided to let my guard down in that I thought I was with a person who had my best interests at heart. NOT THE CASE. Yes that's just how someone like that would operate. He was in a position of responsibility and trust and he abused it. You didn't do anything wrong.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
kath
This programme's available for all to watch online here :)
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
kath
QuoteCranial Most people join the relevant organisations when they qualify and get practice insurance too Anyone can start one of these organisations- I could start one today. I agree with you that maybe some organisations may be more scrupulous than others but on the whole there need ideally to be some form of external regulation not just 'working towards self-regulation'. I&#
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
kath
Quotejeff boweI wonder however, as Dorje raises the matter, if a legal route would be better served in terms of the reported abuse, seemingly experienced by some former clients of Mr.Hansard? Although I can imagine it would be a tremendously painful, and possibly intimidating experience, perhaps those who may have been traumatised by Hansard ’s ’practices’ will decide to step out from the shadow
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
kath
There's also a forum specifically for ex-members of the ICC, where a large number of ex-members share their experiences, you will find dozens of ex members of the ICC there who will know exactly what you've been through. I read their forum and the ICC seems a really nasty organisation to have been in. I have friends who were in the ICC and they found it very controlling and damaging.
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
14 years ago
kath
QuoteWickOh Dear, why do some of you find such enjoyment in attacking this man? He has been of great help to a lot of people and an inspiration to many others. For a fee. I mean we all have to live, but what we do for money doesn't make us saints, it often tends to do quite the opposite.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
kath
QuotejeannelucilleToday I found the following bit of wicked humor re the New Age, entitled "12 Steps For Recovering New Agers": While I don't think I'd go as far as the author in denouncing ALL things New Age, I certainly found myself nodding in agreement A LOT! Sorry I had lost track of this thread for some reason, I just came across this post and am laughing at th
Forum: Multi Level Marketing and Commercial Schemes
14 years ago
kath
It has been said that she is having a breakdown of some kind. There is allegedly a spiritual element to it, I don't think it has much to do with cults though
Forum: Celebrities associated with "cult-like" groups
14 years ago
kath
I am too- a lot of the groups discussed on this forum have a presence in the UK too.
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
14 years ago
kath
Hi Anticult, you shold be able to get some excellent help from the Electronic Frontier Foundation They have helped activists a lot in the past. You have lots of people's experiences on your site, a site which you know how much I love :) Concentrate on getting the advice you need from the EFF and other lawyers/digital rights experts is what I would suggest at the mo.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
14 years ago
kath
QuoteSangre The bad thing, that still pisses me off, is that I am very sure that I was/am not the only one they play(ed) mindgames and powergames on If you google and search the teacher's name + destructive, and other searches like that, you may find others have written about their experiences with this school online.
Forum: Clergy and Therapy Abuse
14 years ago
kath
Yes, that's the group I know, the Aivanov group.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
kath
Quoteshininglightthis sounds crazy. who would beleive such a lie? It is too obvious. Why they cannot see? Think of famous cults- Heaven's Gate, Charles Manson. By a strong leader and other methods people can be convinced to believe anything. And the people- who are often children- in the JOS are particularly young too.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
kath
QuoteEudaemonium But power corrupts, as does money - the JOS majorly started going downhill once she started the whole 'donations' racket. Considering she effectively lived off donations, the amount of 'research' she did and the time she spent answering questions just seemed to drop almost every week. Were there a lot of 'donations?' :shock:
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
kath
Hi Eudaemonium (a good name) :) Brill to have you here. QuoteEudaemonium However, as a former believer, I need to state a simple fact: it is <i>intoxicating</i> - dangerously so. It combines all the hubris and self-exhaltation of LaVeyan Satanism, with the 'Chosenness' of Judaism, with the militancy of Radical Islam. That is a really good way of descr
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
kath
Hi Midnight, I was very moved by your story :cry: Never experienced anything like that myself but it sounds absolutely evil. So I googled and found this DeSisto School The DeSisto School had been operating in Massachusetts, but closed after an investigation into allegations of child abuse. The school transferred many students to a sister-school in Mexico. News reports indi
Forum: Clergy and Therapy Abuse
14 years ago
kath
what do you think that is all about? :shock: It's very carefully worded.
Forum: Multi Level Marketing and Commercial Schemes
14 years ago
kath
Oh I am sorry it's not them, I think it's one of many groups with a similar sounding name and philosophy.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
kath
I have googled them before as I met someone who was into them. I couldn't find much about them but yes they did seem a bit dodgy to me. I won't link to his site off here because he was friendly to me, but his site seemed a bit mad keen with huge pages of teachings, pictures of the founder, dediction to spreading his work etc. Sounded a bit over-zealous on his site. And he was ma
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
kath
How people (most people) react if you mention a destructive experience you had with a group is in such a disappointing and painful way :shock: It really changed the way I feel about the human race. I wish I had never mentioned the experience I had with a destructive group, to anyone but instead had just gone on to other experiences in my life. By talking about it I have just been shred
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
14 years ago
kath
OMG I just looked at the first of those links. If this doesn't convince your husband not to let your daughter do it, I don't know what will. "More than 30 lawsuits were filed against Lifespring, alleging that the training had caused everything from emotional damage to psychotic breakdowns to suicide. The first unfavorable jury verdict came in 1984, when Deborah Bingham, a 30-ye
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
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