Dear Dogmother, thanking for sharing the inicident with Oso..(hopefully God found another home for the poor creature!)....it is good to hear that Paul has(or had at one time?) enough soul left to be "capable" of shedding tears....I'm "out of touch" with many of the personalities involved these days....and all I have to judge them on is the sickening "cyber-persona
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Dear Dogmother, Your descriptions are just so UNIVERSAL in their application....the Jesuschristians are just so full of hate for anyone that threatens the delusions upon which their little world desperately clings, and it shows out just so CLEARLY in their uncharitable behaviour, (when they think that the rest of the world can't see them, that is ) towards you, other parents and seemingly
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Yes, ........and thanks for all the (frustrating for you) efforts with the clips, Zeusor......much appreciated!!
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I’m honoured to rate a mention on the JC web again: "Malcolm had done one of his more hateful posts, except that this time he directed it to my brother (who had posted as "Aghast") and not to me personally. Here is an excerpt: Quote: ...go the f*ck to hell (..your brother will kindly show you the door......)....and piss off with the divisive "hate-mongering" your br
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Dear Blackhat, You witty observations (about David's own commitment to "doing without"...) are rather humorous....but I to would like to add my voice to the idea that if the JC's are actually doing something worthwhile in Kenya, (as opposed to the worthless proselytizing they are appear to exclusively engage in elsewhere....) then that project actually deserves some support
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Oh, and I'd also like to applaud David Lowes'.....(whoops sorry!!!)... I meant...well you....(nudge, nudge, wink wink) "Private Eyes" outstanding efforts as the year draws to a close and observe in similar fashion to him, that really substantial progress has been made over the last 12 months in relation to the professionalism and efficiency with which we are all now, both on t
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Dear Dogmother, I haven't looked at the entire program, but I think that the very act you took of being prepared to be identified and stand up publicly in opposition to David, said absolutely WORLDS about the issues....there always be things that we "didn't say" or "could have said better"....and I'd say that appearances are such that yes, it was a craven att
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Yes, you are right Zeusor...I shouldn't be so ungracious as not to acknowledge what appears to be a "sliver" of genuineness on Davids' part... However...if he is really genuine....why not post what he written on the JC site onto the public forums on the JK program (still open I believe!)...it costs David nothing to "apologize" on his website, for behaviour that he
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Hmm...Dear Zeusor.... You would call this a "real" apology??....(the contents of which are intended as a barbed reference to Liesel, "disguised" (in the manner that only some utterly wicked, cretin-like mind could stoop to produce ) in a purported "apology" about a readily verifiable factual matter that David now knows he can longer openly deny) "I wish t
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After viewing some of the JK files (thanks Zeusor) and in particular watching that young man tell David how strongly he reminds him of the leader of the cult of which he fell prey to… I note with dismay that Liesels’ comments: My children didn't look the same after 3 years in the JCs. The were sallow and zombie-like, nothing like the happy, fun-loving little family I knew. I was determ
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....speaking of those who deliberately misguide others with false information, or relevant information that is deliberately not supplied....I note an interesting statement on the part of the son of Satan....(John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he
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As Aghast is a reader of this forum, he will be aware (as I have stated previously) that early on in my "career" in the JC's, his brother privately took me aside(out of the community home in the countryside to an isolated street phone booth in Tallangatta, one night), where he required me to call my own mother and threaten her that I would never so much as speak to her again, if sh
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(...at considerable personal risk of being subject to legal action being undertaken on behalf of David McKay...) GO, ZEUSOR Go!!! Atta boy! Sic' em...Do your worse....Do WORSE than your worst!...now do it even more worse...but GO ZEUSOR!! (...ummm...are you sufficiently "incited" now?)
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Thank you Blackhat for that perceptive article....I am most impressed that you are able to locate such stories so promptly!! I notice that Roland Gianstefani became Roland "Phillips" in another recent story "inspired" yet again by the "selfless" donation of Kidneys on the part of the JC's (..."selfless" on the part of many individual JC's I would
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Dear Ross, Robin, Roland,....and the other "old-timers" in the JC's, As David's birthdays rolls around to mark off another year that he's just that much closer to Hell, I thought I'd shamelessly steal another golden passage poetically put, from "Dassi" (of the Krishna group in Hawai), to remind you that (despite what the "Captain" will no doubt
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Dear Zeusor, I agree that the desperate endeavours to shout "Wolf, wolf" (....stating that the activities or individuals on this forum physically threaten the JC?....) are nothing more than malicious fabrications (fabrications which I would have always thought were legally challengeable too, Ross) on the part of the JC's with the sole intent of "winning" external sympa
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(Well yes...lets' bring up our 200th page on the occasion of His "wHolly-a-mess"'s birthday.....!) ...while I agree with Apostates caution about involving those here, who may not to wish to be involved....it does sound to me, Zeusor, as though you made it clear to David's mother that whatever she might say...would end up in the "public record" at some point..
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Dear Hello, Could you point out (e.g. sample "cut'n'paste"s ) some of the "exciting things" that are happening at the JC forum...sorry but I seem to have missed them!....(with thanks!...)
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...a sample "Letter of Support" Dear Mr Kyle, If David McKay were really as bad as you make out....why then most people would eventually walk out on him....How do you account for that?.... knowing full well as you do that David makes it quite clear to anyone who dares to stand up to him that once they are no longer members of the Jesuschristians, that they no longer "count&qu
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David Mckay of course wrote the classic "Killers for Christ" document (now removed from public view!), an effort that was of course far more "indicative" of the twisted reasoning behind the teaching behind the JC's, that he would have actually originally intended....we also have here the man who had his followers whip one another, then uses organ-harvesting to buy public
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"Tokenism" cuts both ways of course.... It is my understanding that David would say, pay lip service to the human rights that the American Constitution is based upon (heavily dependant as it is, on the ideals of the earlier Quaker Pennsylvanian Constitution that Jefferson and others would have been deeply familiar with from their years in Philadelphia) So... we see that David has
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Dear Hello, I agree with both yourself AND Brian....although I can't see Hello, how you'd manage to persuade David that he needs "treatment" and how you might also convince him to voluntarily forgo the mastery of a couple of dozen of young people, who'll complete to assure him that whatever he so much as imagines, is yet again another "brilliant relevation",
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Fury Faerie, Oh...I see....so you are one of Davids' lap dogs....If you feel that are able to somehow "big-note" yourself by delivering a message that your master will ultimately reward you for, once he sees how faithfully you have endeavoured to copy his "scathing comebacks".... .....could you first explain how you are exempt from the "logic" that you und
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Dear Blackhat, We've all "been there and done that" with David and his histrionic personality disorder......He needs "persecution" in order to "prove" himself (to himself)...hence it is invented where ever it is required.....I like your observation that David's "warnings" of the "threats" and "dangers" he "bravely"
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Dear Forum, I am mindful of Cultmalleous's observation that "I know of no-one who ever left the JC's during a time of external persecution", however I would still see "our" activities (this forum and some other venues) as somehow successful if we were able to help circumvent David acquiring new souls to feed off......while I want to do what's possible for tho
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Dear Zeusor, I'd personally prefer to see a "board" that permitted people to contribute in whatever fashion in which they felt most comfortable....I (and I assume Jack Oscar Larm) are "thumbing our noses" at David's by being prepared to identify ourselves.....that said, I live in Korea and for me, David MacKay is just some distant nightmare on the internet that I
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A poignant observation Private Eyes.... but.....hmm.....duty of care? Given the increasing raft of legislation now mandating standards of "minimal care"....would it not be possible to convict David of deliberately inciting dereliction of parental care (given that we aware that those who are pyschologically trapped within the JesusChristians will perjure any legal proceedings in orde
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Dear Zeusors, David's patently wicked attempts to yet again "dehumanize" his critics by "labelling"(we are bitter or hateful, what have you).....is plain evidence of the outright criminality with which he conducts himself....(in addition to the brazen statement it makes about the neanderthal nature of his "intellect")....Davids' faithful relationship wit
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Dear Private Eyes, David's dishonesty is increasingly poorly crafted.....Which ex-member speaks up on his behalf?....it would appear not a soul....hence the "silence" of the ex-members is actually far more damning of David McKay than it is of anyone else.... Similarly, while I would LOVE to have the opportunity to "make a meal" out of David on television, the pr
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....convicted of the truth.... ...while in some ways I remain committed to (what was once?) the ideology behind the JesusChristians......if they continue to lead the lives they do, blaspheming the spirit of God (the unforgiveable sin Jesus nominates in Scripture), by their deliberate perjury of the truth of any matter to defend WHATEVER lie David may feel it necessary to engage in, in order to
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