Paul Holder was prosecuted in San Diego in 1978. It seems to me that his son has posted on this website...

Any idea how life is treating her?
Went to school in Shiloh with her. She told everyone that Don McLean was her uncle. True or false?

If so then Little Paul should hit me up on the PM. How are the Holders doing? They certainly had a family of kids vitimized like the rest of us.

As for the fraud part of the story a five year old boy wouldn't know.
I can tell you that there is Gold in the Nevada sand and the flash assay process has been perfected by a company now doing very well. The difficulty associated with the undertaking was compounded by TLWF family of hippies and broken toys (from the island of broken toys) that had zero experience with any earth moving or project management and the resources, ie money, provided were never going to be sufficient.
Again, many good people shafted.(mining pun intended)

So here is a tid bit I didn't know: are you people telling me Paul Holder was Johns son in law?

changedagain Wrote:
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> FCSLC Wrote:
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> > Better still; maybe we should throw it all out
> and
> > enjoy the boon of being “a law unto
> > ourselves.”
>
>
> Ha--I think we've earned it!


As evidenced by this blog, I think we have thrown it all out!

LampShmamp Wrote:
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> Paul Holder was prosecuted in San Diego in 1978.
> It seems to me that his son has posted on this
> website...


Little Paul was a friend of mine and helped me carry the water (literaly)

strange... Wrote:
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> I was there too...I know all of these people.
> I am not sure if I want to go down this road.


Strange, we all have this choice to make. Revisit the past or not. For me it hasn't helped me shutting it out. I loved my fellow sheep and many of the leaders even if they to were duped by JRS and more pointedly to me, G and M
I hope you make the right choice for you as you clearly have reached out.
Best to you!

Tmason Wrote:
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> As for the fraud part of the story a five year old
> boy wouldn't know.
> I can tell you that there is Gold in the Nevada
> sand and the flash assay process has been
> perfected by a company now doing very well. The
> difficulty associated with the undertaking was
> compounded by TLWF family of hippies and broken
> toys (from the island of broken toys) that had
> zero experience with any earth moving or project
> management and the resources, ie money, provided
> were never going to be sufficient.
> Again, many good people shafted.(mining pun
> intended)

If it was simply incompetence/inexperience, that (presumably) wouldn't result in a fraud conviction. That said, I have no doubt the Holder children were victims of the situation, as well.
BTW, I'm pretty sure John held a position in the company, but if I recall correctly, someone wrote he that he was holed up in Shiloh during the trial. True?

> So here is a tid bit I didn't know: are you people
> telling me Paul Holder was Johns son in law?
I put that out there. Apparently, according to Lily, I was mistaken. So scratch that.

Tmason Wrote:
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> Any idea how life is treating her?
> Went to school in Shiloh with her. She told
> everyone that Don McLean was her uncle. True or
> false?

I don't know, Tmason. Also not sure about Don McLean being her uncle.

tmason.....I don't know if you have read Reflections from the Wall by Nichols. As I recall, there's a lengthy chapter on the mine. I don't have a link handy but you can google Reflections from the Wall Nichols and find it.