AD,

I am not an expert on brainwashing and I can't address all the ways it can occur but I do accept what the experts say about it occurring in very controlling cults. Also on this forum we have the testimony of posters who say they were brainwashed. I don't doubt them. How many have commented regarding their involvement....what was I thinking?

I think of brainwashing this way. Some parents who have a strong hatred for certain racial/ethnic groups often influence their children and teach their children the same hatred and I think their children are deceived and brainwashed that certain racial/ethnic groups are bad (they aren't bad) and the child is brainwashed to hate. In a Bible based cult I think members can be deceived that they are maturing spiritually into Christ in the flesh (even though they don't even walk in the key and foundational tenets of compassion, forgiveness and love or any spiritual power) because that's what their spiritual leaders tell them and if they believe it, I think the members have been brainwashed...heavily influenced and persuaded they are becoming little gods. This may be a very simplistic way of understanding brainwashing and as you say perhaps not everyone is easily influenced but according the Rick Ross he as helped doctors, lawyers, etc. folks who rely on their critical thinking skills for their professions who got fooled by the persuasion and influence of cult leaders.

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> perhaps not everyone is easily influenced but according to Rick Ross
> he has helped doctors, lawyers, etc. folks who rely
> on their critical thinking skills for their
> professions who got fooled by the persuasion and
> influence of cult leaders.

rrmoderator Wrote on July 3, 2015
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> poliscigrad:
>
> In my opinion The Walk and John Robert Stevens
> used coercive persuasion and influence techniques
> to make people vulnerable, gain undue influencne
> and exploit them.
>
> See
> [www.culteducation.com]
>
> Also see
> [www.culteducation.com]
>
> And also
> [www.culteducation.com]
>
> Cult leaders knowingly, or in most cases learn by
> experience, to use these techniques as tools to
> manipulate people.
>
> It's the leader's fault not his or her victims. In
> a sense it's like psychological and/or emotional
> rape.
>
> I explain this in detail in the book "Cults Inside
> OUt" within the chapter "Cult Brainwashing,"
> including why people stay when prophecies fail.
> There are 1,200 research footnotes for further
> study and support.
>
> See
> [www.amazon.com]
> ion*=1&*entries*=0

rrmoderator Wrote on July 3, 2015:
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> poliscigrad:
>
> Let's not get too off topic here. The topic here
> is The Walk and John Robert Stevens.
>
> My point is to avoid any sort of victim bashing.
>
> For example, that those conned by a cult leader
> are somehow guilty and/or duplicit in their
> victimization.
>
> I have deprogrammed five medical doctors. They all
> had highly developed critical thinking and
> analytical skills. Nevertheless they were
> manipulated and hurt by destructive leaders.
>
> Very specific education about destructive cults
> coupled with the developement of corresponding and
> specifically focused critical thinking skills is
> necessary to avoid such a situation.
>
> Some people may leave one cult and join another,
> unless they effectively sort through their
> experience. They can potentially become "cult
> hoppers."
>
> But when cult victims sort it out and understand
> the process of coercive persuasion that
> destructive cults use to gain undue influence,
> cult victims can effectively inoculate themselves
> from further involvement with such groups.

There has been a noticable rise in Facebook activity regarding Marilyn Farms lately. The march towards normalcy continues, along with the continued depletion of any doctrinal nutrients they once believed set them apart from the rest of the field.

A focus more in this direction will hopefully dilute the Kool-Aid enough for it to completely lose its color, flavor and popularity.

disregard this post as the link doesn't work



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While I have said that I don't think JRS INTENTIONALLY taught anything false, in that he believed in my opinion what he taught, I do think that he used every trick in the book to play on the stupidity of a bunch of burned out people that were often without father figures, or were often from broken homes, and he got them to look to him as if he were their savior, or at least didn't do or say a hell of a lot to discourage them. When Paul and Barnabas saw they were being treated like deity, the bible says the "tore their robes" which was what Jews did in total disgust as a statement against blasphemy. I have heard it written here that "John allowed them to worship him, Gary and Marilyn DEMANDED them to worship them." That might be one of the truest statement every written here on this forum.


> poliscigrad:
>
> In my opinion The Walk and John Robert Stevens
> used coercive persuasion and influence techniques
> to make people vulnerable, gain undue influencne
> and exploit them.
>
> See

“Quiverfull” Cult Plans Arranged Marriage Camp For Teens

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I am really sorry that Living Word Fellowship turned out to be such a huge cult and such a huge misfire, John Robert Steven's biggest mistakes was A- marrying Marilyn, B-getting such a big head and needing praise to the point of placing the kiss ups into POSITIONS of authority so that they would fulfill his own prophecy of his life's work and ministry being run into the ground by a younger Judas, (and he didn't know it, a JEZEBEL). Those are his biggest mistakes.

As far as Latter Rain theology, I know there are many people from the Walk still teaching the Manifest Sons of God idea, and other parts of the theology, they are more honest people for the most part than the ones that took charge of the walk up to now. I see that two Walks have formed at the same time, it seems the one that stayed together under the logo and on the property was one, and the various other ones, (really I said that wrong, there are several other small Walks out there still, I know of at least three or four) but as far as the theology goes, we will see, and i think soon. The proof is in the finally, we will see if Christ returns like He said, or we will see if there will be any manifest sons of God that are immortal or if it is just garbage. I know that we are in the end time, they are sawing off heads just like John said in Revelation, and there is certainly an anti-Christ system in the world going strong, and it appears there are several people trying to get that POSITION of the Anti-Christ himself. We see the rapture has not happened pre-trib, let's see if it happens mid-trib, or post-trib or not at all. I think it is all comeing to a head now.

changedagain Wrote:
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> kBOY Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> Apostle Dog wrote:
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> > There is still a small residue of milk & honey
> > amidst all the devastation:
> >
> > [www.facebook.com]
>
>
> I wonder if I win the MF raffle, they would be
> willing to include my airfare? That would be
> awesome.

> I know we are in the end time, they are sawing off heads.......
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I won't beheading for Marilyn Farms anytime soon.