OK. Otter, thanks for posting. I have one question. Why does the only pro-impact argument that has been presented on this thread ultimately boil down to: "well, it works for some, but not for all.", as you have done? There has not been one cogent argument presented in this forum that addresses our claims of logical paradoxes, implementation of mental conditioning techniques, shady business practices, immoral conduct of office staff and all of the destroyed lives we accuse the Impact Trainings of. No refutation or even sympathy for the god-awful sorrow these trainings have caused to be. How can you be okay with contributing to an organization that perpetuates mental-rape, even though you think that did not happen to you? Anyone who continues to staff, train, coach or enroll into these trainings after learning what damage has been done to people as a direct result of participating in them, is as morally culpable for that damage as Hans Berger himself. As Werner Erhard is. And Klemmer and Asses, and Hubbard. Do you think we are just bitter liars who are merely hating on a training because our lives suck about 1000 times more since we went through the training than before we went in? If you really think we are just blaming our woes on the training arbitrarily, you’ve got another thing coming! I helped run the place dude! I trained over 1000 people just like you! I’ve seen shit that would turn you white! Stuff they will never tell people because it would expose them as the frauds they truly are.
People who are grossly naïve before they go into Quest, come out even more so. That’s all I have to say.
Ok, it’s not all, I can’t resist:
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I believe someone will take a swipe at me here, now, and that's ok. It says a lot about you and nothing about me.
First off, you have got to be &@%#ing kidding me! You just proved a logical fallacy for me and you bowled right over it without missing a beat. The first axiom of Impactian accountability is that IT'S ALL ABOUT YOOOOOU!!!! So, how can you say that it says allot about me but nothing about you if your results are all about you? But then my results are all about me, but if that were true, you wouldn't have any results of your own now, would you! It’s like a crazy version of that Old Spice commercial with Bruce Campbell, but it’s not funny! Can’t you see that ALL of Impacts conclusions are based on this false premise, which makes all of their claims of how accountability, right/wrong and morality works implode like the third movie installment of a Marvel trilogy? I mean, good GO[content deleted. 300MB of cursing, ranting and frustrated, maniacal laughter that doesn’t translate well to text]