Re: Turning Point Church World Outreach Center-Tell Your Story
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rrmoderator
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Date: March 17, 2009 03:10AM
To whom it may concern:
I have been moderating this message board for a number of years.
It is a longstanding and popular board, which is heavily searched by the major search engines such as Google.
People upset about how easily the information posted here can be found by the public, often join the board to disrupt it.
This disruption may often be subtle, but the purpose is to sow conflict in an effort to cause less participation the therefore subsequently diminish the amount of information thatsubsequently might otherwise be added.
IMO--"GodsWarrior" fit well within the usual pattern of behavior exhibited by such participants.
I have been moderating this message board for a number of years.
It is a longstanding and popular board, which is heavily searched by the major search engines such as Google.
People upset about how easily the information posted here can be found by the public, often join the board to disrupt it.
This disruption may often be subtle, but the purpose is to sow conflict in an effort to cause less participation the therefore subsequently diminish the amount of information thatsubsequently might otherwise be added.
IMO--"GodsWarrior" fit well within the usual pattern of behavior exhibited by such participants.
Re: Turning Point Church World Outreach Center-Tell Your Story
Posted by:
TurningPointReject
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Date: March 17, 2009 03:38AM
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rrmoderator
To whom it may concern:
I have been moderating this message board for a number of years.
It is a longstanding and popular board, which is heavily searched by the major search engines such as Google.
People upset about how easily the information posted here can be found by the public, often join the board to disrupt it.
This disruption may often be subtle, but the purpose is to sow conflict in an effort to cause less participation the therefore subsequently diminish the amount of information that subsequently might otherwise be added.
IMO--"GodsWarrior" fit well within the usual pattern of behavior exhibited by such participants.
Moderator,
It appears that if this was the intention then to a limited degree it has worked. As I know some who have now decided not to post here.
However, this site is not the issue.
TPc is the issue.
And as long as the leaders at TPc continue to act as they have in the past these concerns will not go away.
Re: Turning Point Church World Outreach Center-Tell Your Story
Posted by:
rrmoderator
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Date: March 17, 2009 04:20AM
TurningPointReject:
Yes.
To some extent he has succeeded with some people posting here.
But of course if people don't want to post any longer they are free to do as they wish.
For those that wish to move on and continue the dialog here the focus should be the topic of the thread, which is TP.
Yes.
To some extent he has succeeded with some people posting here.
But of course if people don't want to post any longer they are free to do as they wish.
For those that wish to move on and continue the dialog here the focus should be the topic of the thread, which is TP.
Re: Turning Point Church World Outreach Center-Tell Your Story
Posted by:
TurningPointReject
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Date: March 17, 2009 04:38AM
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Mville04
Please watch this video I found. It is not one of mine.
It is telling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6qNCIDtyCw&feature=related
Very Powerful, Mville.
Thank you
Re: Turning Point Church World Outreach Center-Tell Your Story
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TurningPointReject
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Date: March 17, 2009 04:49AM
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rrmoderator
To whom it may concern:
"GodsWarrior" has left the board and has also been banned.
IMO he was here to subvert the board.
I find that to be very disappointing.
That *move* just gave credibility to all of the voices accusing us of gossip. I want nothing to do with it.
Moderator, please remove all of my previous postings from this board.
Thank you,
BrokenHearted
Actually, Broken Hearted, Our words, which we have spoken, are right here for all to see.
There will be those who will point and call us gossips. They will do so because they themselves do not want to do the hard work of asking tough questions nor do they wish to be confronted by their own willingness to participate in what has taken place at TPc.
Those who come to this forum seeking answers and seeking truth, more often than not find the Truth they are looking for. Not because they read it here but because the information, the stories, the testimonies, all these provoke them to seek further, search deeper, ask questions, examine the Word. And when they do this, more often than not, they find out the Truth.
I have seen many who have come to this forum with the intent of defending TPc ultimately come back having found and witnessed the ugly truth to which has been testified to on this forum over and over again. You yourself spoke to me of the flags and concerns you had as you interacted with GW.
All I ask is that you pray and ask God to reveal the Truth to you as it relates to GW. And ask God to reveal the Truth to you as it relates to Gossip.
He is the author of Truth and He desires to give to anyone who asks, wisdom and understanding. He will not let you down.
Re: Turning Point Church World Outreach Center-Tell Your Story
Posted by:
TurningPointReject
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Date: March 17, 2009 04:56AM
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rrmoderator
"GodsWarrior":
Be honest.
You are here as and apologist and/or to subvert this thread.
You don't seem interested in any meaningful exchange of ideas or discussion and your posts demonstrate this repeatedly.
Some of your posts have not been approved for this reason.
Wow
I thought this was a forum to openly discuss both side of this issue. If it just for the forme people of TPC to vent their hurts I am on the wrong Forum. I personaly know Godswarrior and they are an honest upstanding Godly person who is truly seeking the truth of this situation. Once again we shut a pro TPC voice down in a swift and what seems to me unjustified manner. I believe the board as a whole needs to know why this has happened? Was there been personal; attacks on their part. (I have not seen any worse than long time posters)
Godswarrior is in a position within TPC to actualy get answers to the questions we all have. They are not a person of weak character just the opposite. They will pursue the question until it is answered or that will be an answer in itself.
Congratulations you have chased another questioning TPC member back to the fold. If this is the way that all pro TPC oppinions are treated I am definitely at the wrong forum. Is htis not a "debate style" board? If so we need to have descenting oppinion to continue the validity of having this up. Is this simply a story telling site with no debate involved than I agree let us start a new thread were we can actualy do some debate. I agree with Broken hearted we are adults here we need to be allowed to make our own decisions about the content (within reason) I feel up to this time we have been very good at calling each other to account if we get of line.
Please feel fee to address my concerns privately or on the forum. I need to know whether I am off base and need to find another Forum or if this is the place to help get questions answered and start the healing process.
Thank you for posting. I respect your right to choose not to participate in this forum. I hope and pray for healing for all who have experienced hurt at TPc. I pray, that if this forum is not and has not been helpful to you, that you will find a place where you can continue in your healing.
I offer the same encouragement I offered Broken Hearted: Ask God to reveal Truth. He is anxious to show you the Truth.
TPR
Re: Turning Point Church World Outreach Center-Tell Your Story
Posted by:
nooneofanyimportence
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Date: March 17, 2009 07:09AM
rrmoderater since we dont know all the postings done by gw we will have to trust you, I just want to say it is probably good to have someone unenvolved personally with us to distinguish if what is written follows the rules of the forum, us christians sometimes tend to let our emotions rule our intellect. when we know someone or think we know someone we can be biased by thier motives. which is probably another reason why annanimity should be kept.
Re: Turning Point Church World Outreach Center-Tell Your Story
Posted by:
rrmoderator
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Date: March 17, 2009 08:17AM
nooneofanyimportence:
My concern is to keep the forum a free and reasonable place for people to express their concerns openly.
There isn't a problem with dissenting views, just people who are not really interested in an open and honest exchange of ideas, but instead simply come here to be disruptive and subvert a thread.
My concern is to keep the forum a free and reasonable place for people to express their concerns openly.
There isn't a problem with dissenting views, just people who are not really interested in an open and honest exchange of ideas, but instead simply come here to be disruptive and subvert a thread.
Re: Turning Point Church World Outreach Center-Tell Your Story
Posted by:
Veilednomore
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Date: March 17, 2009 01:31PM
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rrmoderator
nooneofanyimportence:
My concern is to keep the forum a free and reasonable place for people to express their concerns openly.
There isn't a problem with dissenting views, just people who are not really interested in an open and honest exchange of ideas, but instead simply come here to be disruptive and subvert a thread.
So who moderates the moderator. You have on many occasions said that GW was being subversive and disruptive. Like I stated before I know this individual and yes he is currently still at TPC but he has questions which we have all seen. He also wanted us to hold to a higher standard of dialogue instead of just a "bashing the leadership of TPC" which I have witnessed here on many occasions. I do not have a problem with the censorship as long as it goes both ways and in all honesty it does not.
By not allowing truly open debate on this forum we change the focus of the forum from the problems at TPC to the lack of fair dialogue within the board. I admit I have an unfair advantage over you as I actualy know the person and know his heart in this. It truly is not to be subvertive and devisive.
I will continue to monitor and perhaps post but I have concerns about the true motives behind the author and moderator of this board.
Trust me in this I have sought it out in prayer and fasting and the word and the actions just don't quite line up. You also should search your heart and see if fairness and equality are your core motives?
VNM
Re: Turning Point Church World Outreach Center-Tell Your Story
Posted by:
Mville04
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Date: March 17, 2009 01:51PM
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Veilednomore
Trust me in this I have sought it out in prayer and fasting and the word and the actions just don't quite line up
Like what for example?
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