You have to ask why is Mike connected to Tony and Radiant Life?

So with Radiant Life Church slowly dying we can see clearly see how manipulative, and cunning Mr. Tony Cunningham can be.
With nearly 80% of his staff leaving we can predict that Tony will reinvent himself as the victim or as the leader with just a few brave followers (sycophants).
We can sit back and anticipate his next move.....I'm sure he will reemerge somewhere with scales, like a slithering snake.
OH!!!!
What is this
“Auctor Leadership Training Series”
Is this the new power word for Tony to use?
Auctor???
Tony says the word means;
“AUCTOR (n., Lat.)– One who originates any worthwhile object or objective, or by his efforts gives greater permanence or continuance to it.”

Check out Tony's new business called Resonance Institute.

[www.resonanceinstitute.org]


Look this site over carefully and consider this,
If Tony is an apostle for God, then where are the references or connections to God in his new business???

I believe this really exposes the true nature and motivation of Tony Cunningham.
He is an opportunity seeker and poser.
Like a shape-shifter he will transform himself into what ever he needs to be to deceive people!

Listen to what he says in his video that mirrors the Radiant Life web site.

"I’m Tony Cunningham, and at Resonance Institute we know this about leadership. It isn’t, cheep, it isn’t easy, and it certainly isn’t measured by titles or hype, it’s measured simply by looking behind you and seeing who’s following.”
Great leadership isn’t something to be grasped.
But it is something to be qualified for defining moment, by defining moment.

Resonance Institute exists to find those leaders, and to unlock there potential
Potential that you didn’t realize you even had our principals and training modules are designed to cut through every false pretense and assumptions you had, ever about leadership and to replace it with something genuine, something that will resonate far beyond you.
Were Resonance Institute and we’ve got one question for you; how do you want your leadership story to unfold?"

Tony you are Clinical!!!

Sounds like he is plagiarizing the motivational speaker Mr. Anthony (Tony) Robins

Here is the real truth you said it Tony "Great leadership isn’t something to be grasped." Tony you have not grasped the concept of responsibility! Nor have you grasped the concept of leadership, because you have not learned how to submit to any one in leadership!!!!

Cunningham is a False Apostle, False Prophet, a False Teacher and now a Delusional Motivational Speaker.

BraveHeart

I agree with God's Warrior when he states he doesnt expect to see Mike on this forum engaging in the discussion. I don't think Mike would be willing to engage and defend why he teaches what he teaches. Quite frankly I don't think he has time to even read this forum. Think about his schedule...Teaching at SOMA...his businesses outside the church...his personal hobbies...his extra curricular reading (books like Undercover, etc)...his sermon preparation...his meetings...I really don't think he has time for this forum.

I suspect some on this forum have brought their questions directly to Mike. If you took your questions to Mike before leaving would you please relate how you were received and how your questions were dealt with by Mike.

Thanks

TPR
wow, I keep calling the church office...and go figure...they wont put me through

I believe Mike has more time on his hands that you think.
This is a façade that both Tony & Mike present people with, it is part of the smoke and mirrors.

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Okay, I'm getting ready to listen to last weeks sermon, but I have to bring up a point that's been bugging me since I first noticed it. How many times have the people on this forum been accused of gossip? Did pastor mike accuse this forum of gossip in his message (I'm about to find out)?

But, if he is addressing the things that we are saying here, to the body, but not to us....if he is twisting and misstating our concerns....again, to the body, but not to those of us here on the board....isn't THAT gossip?

Is pastor mike now doing exactly what we've been accused of doing, or warned against?

Isn't he doing exactly what he's instructing soma students, and staff, and the body to avoid doing?

Is pastor mike feeding the rumor mill by implying (or boldly stating) false statements about the people that are posting here?

He does not accuse the people on here of gossiping. He said there are enemies but does not say anything about this website. I was at both services.
I believe that people posting on here twist his words and actions on a regular basis. There are alot of hear-say statements. I would never expect to see him on here responding to any of these posts. Some people on here would be receptive and happy he was answering questions and others would pull apart every word he said. I am sure any of you can guess which posters on here would do what.
I know that I could ask him one on one any of the questions being asked here and get it answered and I will ask him the ones that are important to me.
I don't think he is addressing the body about what is being said here. I believe he is being asked alot of the same questions being asked here and is hearing alot about how upset people on here are and also people are concerned due to all of the negative publicity with the newspaper articles and this and other websites. From what I can see I am the only person on this forum who is not anti-turning point.

Sorry I believe you miss what we (the majority of the ppl on the forum) are trying to commuicate.
What we are trying to commuicate is that we are not against TPC, in fact no one on hear would say we would like to see TPC go under (although i believe that right now the chances of it going under are far more likely than pastor mike and the elders repenting)
What we wish is that they would repent and that people inside the church would not get hurt like we have, even if our hurt is not valid (which we could validate it for you) you have to see many simliarities to how we have been hurt and relaize that those things are not healthy.

What we are saying is that based on several obsevervations and testimonies, that Mike is unaccountable, smug, aggrogant, and the church leadership (how it is established, not the people themselves) is destructive.

I recently met with a man who had been with the church for quite some time, he told me a very sad testimony. He said you know what Pastor Mike used to say (to this effect) "my biggest fear is that if i am ever wrong that they will follow me right off the cliff". That is what is happening too.

Gods Warrior I have questions to ask you.

Do you beleive we are lying?
Do you beleive that mike is telling the truth?
Do you believe his is making his best effort to be forthright?
How many churches in Marysville have forums about them?... with enough testimonies to populate 64 pages?
Would you allow someone to mow your lawn (weekly), do your lawndry (weekly), cook you dinner (once a week)?
Would you be embarassed to say that Mike is an APOSTLE and we are to submit to him, to a new believer?
Would you be embarassed to tell them Mike's accountablity? ( as i beleive that if you invite them to chruch you owe it to them to let them know what they are getting into)
Would you be embarassed to tell them about his really nice house... dispite how good of a deal he got on it?
Would you be embarassed to tell the leadership of your TP, that you are regularly checking your rickross account?


My point is that his accountablity, smug attitude, lack of pastoral leadership are all serious problems (i wonder if mike just chuckled?)
.... lets make this clear NO ONE HAS SERIOUS PROBLEMS WITH THE DOING THINGS APOSTLICLY (although many of us would agree that we disagree with the New Apostlic Movement and some would even disagree that apostles exist today but) IT IS NOT THE ISSUE! IN FACT OUR PROBLEMS ARE WITH HIS ACCOUNTABLITY

Thank you GW
Please Hear Us Out.

If a congressman were allowing his constituents to mow his lawn, do his laundry, cook his meals; accept "gifts" from his constituents, would he not run afoul of ETHIC rules and standards? And, if this is true, are we then to conclude that politicians adhere to higher ethics than do the leaders of TPC?

I believe both Mike & Tony need to do is write a "Statement of Faith" paper on what they believe!
Then present it to the people of the congregation to review. then have a open public questions & answers time.

This should be done every 6 months

If they refuse to do this, then they need to be run out of the pulpit!!!
Expose these guys for the false teachings they teach!!!
Get These Rascals out of the church pulpits!!!

BraveHeart

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If a congressman were allowing his constituents to mow his lawn, do his laundry, cook his meals; accept "gifts" from his constituents, would he not run afoul of ETHIC rules and standards? And, if this is true, are we then to conclude that politicians adhere to higher ethics than do the leaders of TPC?

TPR, You just made a Great point!

Neither are governers allowed to own there own business.

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If a congressman were allowing his constituents to mow his lawn, do his laundry, cook his meals; accept "gifts" from his constituents, would he not run afoul of ETHIC rules and standards? And, if this is true, are we then to conclude that politicians adhere to higher ethics than do the leaders of TPC?

TPR, You just made a Great point!

Neither are governers allowed to own there own business.

Its a rare occasion when I say something on this forum that actually makes sense ;)

I pasted below the text that you quoted from Broken hearted. I believe she was asking everyone if mike was accusing those on this forum of gossiping and not saying that mike was.

However you have a valid point. Not everything on this forum is 100% accurate and not everyone (me included) articulates there ideas perfectly. I don't think anyone is purposefully trying to make up false accusations against mike. The heart of those here is to see turning point change and for people to be aware of what they are hiding.

My friend and I read many of the posts on the Radiant Life Church forum and sought to confirm there validity. We were able to get the phone numbers of many of the elders who left that church and talk to them. One person was an elder for 15 years at tony's church. Another staff member of 5 years said that there were a few things which he didn't think were completely accurate, but most of it was true. (including one person being counseled to divorce their husband when he decided to leave the church and that there has been no attempt to apologize.) I think that at tony's church almost 8 or 9 elders have left, at one point 5 of them at once. (Someone from rlc can correct me if I am wrong)


I don't think that it is a question of defending if what is said here is true or false . While not every statement on here is 100% accurate most of it is true. If you look into most of what is written here, talk to elders at tp, find out why Jackie left and call up people on this forum you defiantly won't decide that we are all wrong and that Mike is being persecuted by us.
The only question is if it is bad enough to leave and is there a hope that mike will repent.

Also

You would be surprised at how many shocking stories people have that are not posted on this forum. I know several of the people who post onto this website who are not yet comfortable sharing how they have been hurt because it is to painful or other reasons. You would also be surprised at how many stories not only are not blown out of proportion, but exactly the opposite. There are MANY people who have left the church that don't post on here yet also have stories confirming what we are saying.

I am sure from your experience at tp you also have stories that would confirm many of the statements on this forum.





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How many times have the people on this forum been accused of gossip? Did pastor mike accuse this forum of gossip in his message (I'm about to find out)?[/b]
But, if he is addressing the things that we are saying here, to the body, but not to us....if he is twisting and misstating our concerns....again, to the body, but not to those of us here on the board....isn't THAT gossip?

Is pastor mike now doing exactly what we've been accused of doing, or warned against?

Isn't he doing exactly what he's instructing soma students, and staff, and the body to avoid doing?

Is pastor mike feeding the rumor mill by implying (or boldly stating) false statements about the people that are posting here?

God's Warrior

You are not the only one who has defended turningpoint. If you go to Page 27 my friend Andy Istvan posted a message defending the church and also questioned those on this forum, under the name pigsqueel.


However after posting he has decided to look more into the claims that have been made.

He no longer attends turningpoint and recently told me that he was wrong about everything he wrote. If you don't believe me you can find him on myspace, or contact me and I will give you his phone number.

I would encourage you to also look into the claims we are making. Rev 2:2 calls us to question those who call themselves appostles and you owe it to yourself and your family to look into what is being siad.

-----An easy way to find andy's post is to enter his name into the search program in the upper right corner of this screen.