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Well, at least we know tht Shaun spends time reading the comments on this forum...
Shaun, are you 100% POSITIVE that Jackie NEVER helped you out financially?
You were never in need where those needs were met without you KNOWING who provided the funds for those needs?

Jackie says she helped you.
Are you now willing to call her a liar right here on this forum?
Or would you like to retract your first comment where you state, "Jackie NEVER helped me with finances"?
Oh and, by the way, would you care to correct the assertion that all you did was " play video games all day long?"

Welcome to the forum and thanks for breathing a bit of life back into the discussion about the controversial cult that is Turning Point Church in Marysville WA.

hehehe he sure did that, its been pretty quiet for awhile , I dont think shaun is sure about anything, at one moment he knows Jackie NEVER gave him anything and then later he has to ask his wife lol. I guess we will all have to wait till we stand before our creator to find out the truth. its all a pretty stupid arguement. except for insinuating jackie lied, that I will have to dispute, he was also pretty sure jackie was wherefromhere. if he keeps guessing shaun will be possitivly right about something lol

This is too funny.TPWOC is and has been so void of anything resembling the spirit of Christ for so long it is more of an soap opera.....Nothing but pride,deceit,greed,lust,perversion,cowardice,politics and most of all man worshipping! Basically the whats what of how not to do it! Laughable and sad at the same time.Hi Sid Hi Jackie,Hope you are well! Randy Larson

Shaun, how does it feel to think someone spread untrue information about you? Imagine a congregation upwards of a thousand hearing untrue information about you? Imagine that most of this congregation have been lead into a belief merely upon the words and smoke and mirror "proof" by a cult leader named Mike Villamoor and his minions. I am sure that you have suffered after being dethroned as Mike's young prince in training. It hurts to lose fame. You and your wife had fame because you lived with the Villamoors as their children for a long time. I feel bad for you because you were young, you were manipulated and you still don't know it. I watched you and your wife lap up the fame that was afforded you. It is unfortunate that you parents gave you money for a 'degree' that is worthless. Seriously worthless. I hope that you will allow the truth to seep in and know the wrongs that were done to Jackie. But, well, the reality is that you probably would rather blame her than wrap your mind around the truth that the Villamoors were very sick people looking for self gain dressed up in a false passion for God. Their passion was for things, for fame, and for a world recognition as "holy" people. People worshipped them and they allowed it. They did not point the congregation they were responsible for to Jesus. They pointed you to Mike and Cindy. It seems you are still worshipping them. God help you.


"Sid - I dont presume to know one's motivation, them intentionally lying or mistating facts. I dont really care, i just wanted to set the record straight. Someone used my name and spread untrue information.[/quote]

"Imagine a congregation upwards of a thousand"

I went to the 9 am service sunday...........wow,there might have been as many people at the Buzz Inn where I went for breakfast Saturday. Randy Larson

I was thinking back to when Jackie stepped down as and elder at turningpoint. her reasons were our daughter had ran away and was out of control. Jackie felt she didnt meet the requirements for being an elder. and since she respected the postion, and Gods word she stepped down. I really didnt think much about that action. I selfishly was glad, cuz that freed her up for more time for me. But now as I think about the elders and leaders of churchs, who find themselves deep in sin, maybe porn, gambling, lying , or even just emotional affairs with other women. and yet cling to their positions of leadership, as if that title somehow obsolves their sin, or makes them some kind of godly person. all the while acting ungodly, I question the word integrity, amungst these leaders, and wonder if they really believe that God exists. their actions seem like God cant see them, so sin doesnt count, that somehow keeping themselves secrets, excuses them, from penelities of sin. I'm not bragging about Jackie or trying to build her up in your eyes. Im just using her as an example of a forthright person. who knows titles dont make the person but the actions of the person do. . no wonder the enemy tried to destroy her reputation.

A note to let you know you that unless you need to talk about the kids, you need to stop contacting me, my family, church and friends. If not I will press charges for stalking. You have once asked for the kids to call you.... they choose not to do that right now. I will let them know when you try to reach them. They choose if they want to reply. It is good to see that you are back to work.... these kids deserve better then what they have been getting (living in a homeless shelter, etc.).
Thanks,
Beth (remarried)

Baby,You can go ahead and press any charges you want!Those are my sons as well as yours and I have equal right to see them!If you want I will meet you somewhere closer to where you reside if 164th st is not close enough to be considered convenient for you.My phone number is 360-333-9970.Whether or not you are remarried is irrelevant to my desire to see them,I wish you luck!I will be expecting a response from you in time for a wednesday 5pm pick-up and I will be there.As far as stalking I do not know how that could be a realistic claim means as how I have had no contact with you.This is all brought on by your failure to provide me with any contact info. or respond to very numerous requests for such! It is simply me trying to get into contact with you by any means possible to make arrangements for visitation,which you have willfully refused to arrange either through email or phone response! Far from stalking!Your actions or lack of in regards to responding to communication or visitation requests would be considered KIDNAPPING by a jury in a courtroom,so if that is how you want to proceed,LET'S DO IT! Love Me

[forum.culteducation.com] Hey baby,your church is #1 on a national cultwatch website,any idea why? Randy Larson



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Rmoderator,

Could you address the previous post?

Thanks.

Rmoderator,

There seems to be some kind of a hack into the private messaging feature. I have tried several times to send you a PM, but the "compose message" page freezes when the indicator bar reads that the page is half loaded. Then Internet Explorer shuts down. This has happened in the exact same way a half a dozen times now.

Thank you for looking into it.

I can:Wanted to let you know I took out my share of the stock $ (5,000). I figure it would be gone in about a month if I didn't and I would never see it. Cathy is willing to help with fixing the house up if you move out. We will lose thousands by it being so trashed and dirty and incomplete.If you can move out before I get back she will hire people to finish all the work. If not it will not sell for even 220,000 and we will probably lose everything. You have had many days to work on it so I am not so sure you want to make anything on it. I will get Rachael/Davids phone numbers to you on wed. so you can contact them when I am gone....Beth

See Cathy Shaw had Beth convinced that when the native americans that lived behind us had a sweat lodge ceremony that they called up demons from hell!And apparently the funnel that went up to heaven from the firepit in their backyard where it originated had angels that were coming down from heaven and fighting off the demons that were rising from hell and some of the demons according to Cathy Shaw had come in through our open bathroom window (summertime) of our house after being thrown from the funnel by the angels and she felt a strong demonic prescence originating from our bathroom.When I explained this to Jeff Barnes at his house with Kim and Beth present Jeff agreed with me that it was insanity to think that the house was anything more than nails and wood and to forget the rest of the nonsense.But of course when the "prayer warriors" caught wind of the story they came sprinkling their holy water and saying prayers for the demons to leave our nighbors backyard!Ya,I know crazy crap,stuff ya just can't make up,there are some very sick delusional people in this world and TPWOC seems to attract them or create them you decide!Of course Beth later said there were demons that tried to choke her while doing laundry in the laundry room and there were green clowns laughing in the kids closet at her and when she went to Sears at the mall she saw demons playing under the escalator.I do not know how to help somebody that is that far lost and I do not think anybody else on this forum does either.The info. about the $5000 withdrawl is inaccurate by the way,that was taken out of our bank account,she tried to take our entire stock account balance but while I was at work I had a feeling that I had better check on it and the lady I talked to said that someone had emptied it less than an hour ago!So I told her to let her have what she got and leave the rest there!I am free to say and do as I please on this forum and the Villamors and Barnes' and Olins, Shaws know it! TPWOC needs to be shut down period.It is a place of sheer insanity and delusion and does nothing but destructive things to peoples minds,families and lives! Randy Larson



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"Imagine that most of this congregation have been lead into a belief merely upon the words and smoke and mirror "proof" by a cult leader named Mike Villamoor"


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