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There have been moments when I have heard his whisper, but these have been great moments in my life. Mostly, God speaks to me through what happens in my life i.e. loved one's being saved, and other tangible experiences.

As you will see above, it is not that I do not believe God doesn't speak to us as stated in my quote above from an earlier post. Many of you have seized upon my viewpoint on God speaking which has taken the focus off of TPC. My point was that I believe TPC practices witchcraft and sorcery. That these things God CAN do, are not generated from God, but from man. These things are manufactured for man and from man. I watched the TPC video on their Jubilee in that country they go to every year and have their little church at. I watched a woman who was supposed to have been healed walking without her crutches. She was an elderly woman who really SHOULD have continued using her crutches. She was taking unnecessary risks with her health because she had been "healed." Do I believe in healing, YES, so you don't have to try and convince me that God heals. The purpose of this forum is to expose TPC and talk about what atrocities occur there through false teaching and religious abuse. Sometimes I feel like the TPC way of existing leaks out into past TPC attenders posts. Only some posts get commented on i.e. the popular posts and other posts get attacked. My prior post was to talk about how the leaders at TPC think they are the only ones God talks to. It wasn't to discuss or argue for one position or another on how God speaks to us. While we went to TPC, God spoke to me for sure. But his message to me was sent on how I experienced TPC in my heart and mind. I would leave services feeling less than and feeling like "why can't they see me for who I am" I began to resent my husband because he would never be one of the holy men at TPC. He is a joker and likes to talk about himself. That is absolutely not to be tolerated at TPC. One sunday we visited our old church and the love and relief I felt at that visit was the confirmation we needed to leave TPC. The struggle and conflict and feeling of desperation were gone. I went home. Of course, later we left our old church and have found a new one. But anyways, I was only trying to point out that God speaks in ways other than audibility. We don't just have brains and ears, but we have feelings and hopes and dreams and God uses all of these things to communicate with us and have a relationship. Satan can also speak to us, and he is the great deceiver. Satan so vividly works through music in our culture and now in our churches. It has become about performance and how good the musicians look. There is nothing wrong with good music, but it is used to abuse at TPC. If you don't look a certain way and rush up to the front and worship, you aren't doing it properly. I assert that those who rush up to the front are selfish and self-serving. They want to be seen. There is no room up front for new believers to come forward because all the same people rush up every week so Cyndi and Mike can see them. I went up front once, and God struck my heart hard. I was doing the same thing. I never went back up. Don't get me wrong, I love to worship and worship with my entire being. The danger in the pentacostal perspective is the ability to separate out self-gain and self-seeking and make sure your heart is pure as you approach God. The other danger in the pentacostal perspective is that it attracts people who have mental illness and the proclivity to be unbalanced. It isn't that this perspective is bad, no, not at all. I am just saying that we, as humans, must always check our motives. Are we worshipping or glorifying God because of who he is and what he has done, or are we glorifying and worshipping God because deep in the back of our minds, we think we look good doing it, or sound better doing it or have the appearance of holiness and "what a wonderful heart for God" he or she has. I was talking to God the other day and asked him to purify my heart and my mind as much as can be accomplished as a mere human. Because even though I am cleansed and purified one moment, I can be participating in road rage in the next. So, God, thanks for sending Jesus so you can see me through him. Clean and pure.[/quote

This is going to sound harsh but I won't just sit back and let someone make a statement about me without a word said in response. TTT.- I commented on the statement you made based on what I thought you were implying about how God speaks. It is clear I am not the only one who got the impression I did. So, why make a statement that I only comment and attack on the popular posts? That seems a little unfair. I just started posting so it seams logical that I would comment on current posts not older ones.

I would ask that you reconsider your view on those that come forward during worship. I know several who come forward each week and it has nothing to do with who sees them. It has everything to do with them using that simple act to show God they want to draw near. I have witnessed God move mightily in people who come forward. It can be a powerful thing. It also needs to be stated that when Mike and Cyndi were gone last year and even when they are out of town for a service the people still come forward.

Also, the lady on the video comment is a little out of place. I wasn't there and either were you. I know this. The glory for that feeling was directed straight to God not tpc. I thought it was great! If someone is healed by God and the praise goes to God there is nowhere for Satan to hide in that. He would not orchestrate that event for the simple reason is that God and His power are made known.

I made a post a day ago that has not made it. I would like to state that my presence here has no hidden agenda. I am concerned and working through issues at tpc. I don't know where God will take me or if He will use me at tpc. I have no ill conceived plans to redeem tpc here either. I attend there still and until stated otherwise will do what I feel God has gifted me to do at tpc.

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Regarding all the prosperity teaching......I would like to share a prospective that has not been addressed and trust me I don't have the life experiences that would come close to what this man has. His name is Justin Peters www.justinpeters.org/ please watch the demo video. I look forward to hearing your comments.

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Hi everyone,

I think yes, TPC is a bit pentecostal. however, i've been to realllllly extreme pentecostal churches. love the conferences there but it gets distracting when people are over doing it.

I'd like to add..... I love worship dancing. I will dance in my head before going to sleep ~ as if my Father is before me. I love skating and worship dancing. I just don't want people to "lump" all worship dancers as performers.