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tpcwocattender
I am concerned and working through issues at tpc.

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Regarding all the prosperity teaching......I would like to share a prospective that has not been addressed and trust me I don't have the life experiences that would come close to what this man has. His name is Justin Peters www.justinpeters.org/ please watch the demo video. I look forward to hearing your comments.

sorry the link did not link up from my cell phone

Justin Peters
[www.justinpeters.org]

please watch the demo video. I look forward to hearing your comments.



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tell the truth

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There have been moments when I have heard his whisper, but these have been great moments in my life. Mostly, God speaks to me through what happens in my life i.e. loved one's being saved, and other tangible experiences.


This is going to sound harsh but I won't just sit back and let someone make a statement about me without a word said in response. TTT.- I commented on the statement you made based on what I thought you were implying about how God speaks. It is clear I am not the only one who got the impression I did. So, why make a statement that I only comment and attack on the popular posts? That seems a little unfair. I just started posting so it seams logical that I would comment on current posts not older ones.

I would ask that you reconsider your view on those that come forward during worship. I know several who come forward each week and it has nothing to do with who sees them. It has everything to do with them using that simple act to show God they want to draw near. I have witnessed God move mightily in people who come forward. It can be a powerful thing. It also needs to be stated that when Mike and Cyndi were gone last year and even when they are out of town for a service the people still come forward.

Also, the lady on the video comment is a little out of place. I wasn't there and either were you. I know this. The glory for that feeling was directed straight to God not tpc. I thought it was great! If someone is healed by God and the praise goes to God there is nowhere for Satan to hide in that. He would not orchestrate that event for the simple reason is that God and His power are made known.

I made a post a day ago that has not made it. I would like to state that my presence here has no hidden agenda. I am concerned and working through issues at tpc. I don't know where God will take me or if He will use me at tpc. I have no ill conceived plans to redeem tpc here either. I attend there still and until stated otherwise will do what I feel God has gifted me to do at tpc.[/quote

TPCWOCattender, I wonder if you are one who goes forward weekly. I did not mean to hit a nerve and wasn't trying to be insulting. I cannot help what my experience was at TPC. Every week, and your are right, whether or not Cyndi and Mike were there, the same people went forward. But I would encourage you to reconsider that Mike and Cyndi's minions were like spies every week reporting back to the King and Queen of TPC what everyone was doing when they were away. I have to tell you that I believe Learning Point's post hits the target. So many people are judged to not be worshippers in the true sense because they do not jump around etc. It is also true that those who are demonstrative during worship (that the eye can see) are also judged to be "over the top". The point of my post was that (one of the points) people at TPC are judged as not true worshippers because they don't come up front. They are seen as less than and full of pride. My sense is that it is the people who go up front week after week who are possibly more full of pride.

TPCWOCattender, I also wonder what your motives are in this thread. I do hope it is so you can work things out re: TPC. If it is, change will be evident in your posts. I did not feel that you attacked me, rather, that you talked down to me. I am 50 something years old and have been around the block a time or two. Life has a way of opening your eyes and your mind to insincerity, and TPC was full of it, but it was dressed up nicely. I think TPC used to be a wonderful place to find God and grow. That is the sadness that this forum is formed from. It was birthed because people who used to go there feel passionately about what has been lost, or actually, stolen because of self-serving selfishness.

In church today, the message was about God. The message is God is love. You can follow all the laws imposed by man and imposed by God, but if you do not have love, it is not of or from God. TPC has lost the love that must flow freely to and from the member of the church. Why? Because this is from God and tells you that God is in control. We do not love from ourselves, but because God loved us. Apart from God, we are incapable of real love. God is love. It was a powerful, yet simple message. noneoneofanyimortance said it well. Sometimes, people who are wierd or different, or hard to love, help to see if we really have God in our lives. People who are hard to love show Gods work in us. TPC membership isn't there to love, it is there to judge. The disciples who "help" people there are judges and jury's but separated from the love of God. Their love is self serving. It is of man.

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Yes, Painfuljourney! AMEN!

What an excellent video! It precisely and concisely outlines the false doctrines of the Word-Faith teachers and lets those false teachers speak for themselves via video clips of them articulating their doctrines.

If you want to KNOW WHY WORD-FAITH DOCTRINE IS HERESY, do yourself a big favor and listen to this true teacher. You can tell he loves the church and sees this false teaching as an infection coming in to deceive the people of God. Because it (word-faith heresy) is promoted so much on the airwaves, it has had much exposure and impact on people's thinking--without being tested or weighed against God's Word. Praise God for Justin Peters and others like him who are warning us. I'm going to watch this again and take notes. I want to be able to articulate all of the points he outlined. Let's be ready to give an answer for our faith, my fellow forum writers!! Let's be able to distinguish truth from lies. Our enemy is subtle, but the Word of God cuts through and exposes each lie. Thank God for His Word!!

Thank you for sharing this with us, Braveheart!