Being privy to some inside information i can confirm that the leadership in SMC are now describing Pauline Anderson and Allen Martin as "very troublesome and misguided". They are now seen as usurpers and Offenders of the "Faith."
Now there's a surprise!



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The last few weeks, I have been thinking about sharing my memories and thoughts about this. I must admit I thought twice but feel this is the right time to share this

When I was at Winston one year, I was out for a walk one evening after the meeting with a friend. We hung out down at the graveyard, just chatting away. Well, we heard voices and knew we would be in trouble if we were caught being out the grounds. We hid under a gravestone

it was the female youth leader from Falkirk, and I knew I was in big trouble of she caught us. So we stayed silent. Well, what we have seen was her not acting appropriately and being up to no good , to be someone who made out she was a lot better than us all and lead a godly life and looked down at us, This stayed in my memory for a while.

This leader picked on a very vulnerable female; a lot of us were brought up with from the scheme we lived in. It was common knowledge this girl had a very hard time at home; she was abused with a member of her family, social work was involved ect. But did this leader support this girl No, she made her life hell at church. The girl was banned from the church for doing something silly, and we all were told not to speak to her etc I must admit I still spoke to her. I was told this young female turned up at an outdoor meeting and sat in the distance, watching it.A few of the young folk said to this leader Cant we let her join us? we feel sorry for her The leader turned around, saying no, she can't as she deserves everything she is getting treated with within the church and outwith ..So she was saying she deserved to be physically abused at home also. This young girl needed help and the church turned her back on her,,

I also mind she treated us like I was dirt on her shoes looked down at me for where we were brought up a council estate we were all treated different back then .P also mind her given her testimony at a Friday youth meeting in Falkirk and Hugh Black telling us all we should aim to be alike her, I thought to myself so I have to be like someone who did things with boys and also bully those younger than her and treat everyone bad I so wanted to shout out what she was doing but didn't

You all might wonder why I am sharing this now.

Well, the Stories I have heard over the last year about this leader who preaches a lot in Falkirk are shocking. She is not changed, and even worse, from what I hear, she went on to marry someone who is now on the church board. She is the person they say will take over from Jennifer Jack in Falkirk when she steps down. Do they think this would be advisable for another Bully to run a church? Then again, what we read here is the norm. So from my last post, it is not just the Main leaders in Struthers who need to say sorry; it's from us who brought folk into this church to the top who is running the church,

I hope this gets people thinking and watching what we say to others. I know a simple remark can cause a lot of harm

I could tell more stories about this female, but it's not my place to share others' stories.

ESME YOUR POSTING ON WRONG BOAED THIS IS COPIED AND PASTED OVER FROM MAIN BOARD



EXORCIST Pauline Anderson mutated to Saint Polly new
Posted by: Esmespiers ()
Date: April 12, 2025 01:52AM

Exorcist mutated to Saint?
Posted by: Esmespiers ()
Date: April 12, 2025 01:43AM

: Exorcist Pauline Anderson
Posted by: Esmespiers
Date: 04/12/2025 01:38AM

Exorcist Pauline Anderson
Posted by: Esmespiers ()
Date: April 11, 2025 04:23PM

This is from 2 others who remeber this and experienced Excorcism, I am helping them out by sharing, given Pauline Anderson wants to be transparent:

1: Long caMp meeting where Uncleaness wsa identified as being in the camp. The filth needed routing sovExcorisms had to take place. Pauline would minister with others.

2: J was taken into a room at camp.WHYvAREbYOU Here Again filthy, filthy person, let's get on with this.A time of praying very loudly in tongues.
" Yield, break, give in, come on give in
Then Out, Out, OUY, filthy thing,filthy.
Don't ever get in this state again. How dare you come to this Holy convocation so filthy.

3: I'll don't you know you have a duty to be well at camp. What, just what exactly is wrong with you and no more whinging about being sore. Don't expect me to lay my life down at capms for you when you are indulging in TV, Papers, vPURE filth. Now let's pray!
(VERY UPLIFTING).
THAT PERSON IT TURNED OUT HAD THE STAET OF
Cancer, so well done POLLY for being emphatic. Or maybe just pathetic.


4: She was at these camps year in year out telling people they were filthy, don't read magazines, paper, watch screens and TV was straight from a very hot place and l don't mean pizza hut!

5: POLLY, SUZIE, Paul, and of course Mr Duplicitous Alan Martin it is clear that Spiders, Hyde and a few others stropped off because the top spot was just so near but yet so far.
So don't expect too many to fall for your sanctimonious clap trap Pauline, Martin, SUZIE and Paul for whilst you used lots of Scripture. You Were All in it up to your Necjsks so why be so hypocritical. Yes we all know Mrs Rutherford is over all leader and you all wanted that booo hoo,boo hooio pathetic so pathetic. it won't wash.

And back to Spiers for a second what about Lawson what did he ever do but same boat as Graaaahamm?!!

ANOTHER POST BY ESME ON THE WROONG PLACE COPIED AND PASTED OVER



Alison Spiers Hortor minister:

1: Rules for success grovel and l mean grovel to Alison, Rash spiders.

2: Vestry if you are bright and intelligent, seen as a threat and called being.... Rebellious or independent.

3: Excorcism was weekly with some poor soul being told they were filthy, filthy, filthy.
The knee treatment was for those under 40.

4: Fairy dust sprinkling was for her sycophsnts and they were prayed with constantly and called blessing!

5: There was regular howling, and screaming from the vestry and l don't mean from the blood dripping animals from her vision.

6: All consenting sane Adults.

7: "Beware Largs you will be getting the pretend nice sort of funny but not funny Spiers.
Seriously did anyone laugh at those s... Jokes.

8: The preaching at camp from her, we'll she was like a different woman, sounded intelligent and usually said a lot less about breaking, yielding and left out the maggots and blood!

9: Elaine Mc Ken ie Smith has ruined her life following that woman. Where is God in all that?
Katie had huge issues working out where Spiers fitted in, we all did. Apart from the precious ones like lamb chops, Hyde and Janice Henderson.
Es

Hardly know where to start with all that’s been written recently.
Esme, you have a way with words that has made me smile, even though I suspect that just a little of it may be tongue in cheek? Or perhaps not. Either way, it is indeed a sobering read.
Why did Elaine Mc S bow down and worship Alison Speirs? And why did Alison Speirs accept the worship rather than pointing Elaine to Christ? Elaine McK S decided that Alison Speirs meant more to her than her career, livelihood, in fact, life itself….an altogether extraordinary wrong relationship that should never have been left to develop. Elaine McK had no spiritual life to call her own, everything came from Alison Speirs. Why was this left unchecked and unchallenged? It was clear to everyone that this was not healthy in any shape or form and Elaine was being given a place at the podium because she worshipped Alison . Why was this left to fester year in year out?
Alan Martin and Pauline Anderson have put their heads above the e parapet and have been well and truly shot down. They didn’t dodge the bullets but have taken them for all of us. I believe they are both good people (not perfect, no one is) and have had the courage to stand up and stand out. Pauline Anderson would appear to have done a lot of soul searching over the years and has drawn away from Struthers. I don’t think she would have been seeking a place of leadership as I’ve always heard that she is very happy in England and has no desire to come back to Scotland (can we blame her?)…I wonder if the source who is saying she sought a place of leadership or the top job is just a case of trying to muddy her name and reputation because she has spoken up? Worth a ponder perhaps.
I am in no doubt we have not heard the last of people leaving Struthers. People seem to be well and truly disillusioned with a failing church whose leadership make up the script as they go along and have their very own ‘Gospel According To Struthers’ which bears little resemblance to what I read in my Bible. For those still in Struthers who are ‘on the fence’, want to jump but are fearful, be encouraged: there is life (real life, not made up nonsense) after SMC and once you’ve taken the leap, you’ll wonder why you never did it sooner.

@Falkirkbairn67 that sounds shocking and I have no idea who you mean but I can totally resonate with what you said. I wasn’t there for Winston and had never heard of it but I asked my gran and she was there. I wasn’t at the camps at trossachs for long however I was there enough to recognise some similar things. For instance, the ring leader of our gang was often a target of spiritual bullying by those youth leaders older than us because they, I’m thinking, detected something out of the ordinary - him being gay.

Most of them lived a double life. One evening after they lead an intimate prayer meeting they again targeted me and a fellow friend; He - like me - is neurodivergent and didn’t deserve to be bullied in a place he was supposed to be protected. These older boys basically waterboarded us ‘in the name of the lord’. They were speaking in tongues and one had Andrew Jewell singing a song from his iPod touch 4th generation as put a wet towel on our faces - this was i think to trigger him - and held us down. Afterwords they hit me in my goolies and ran off. When I told the elder they scolded me for making up this story, even though we had a witness! It was maybe because their son was part of this group.

The reason they targeted us was because of our neurodivergence. Earlier that day They noticed my friend wasn’t fully in worship during the meeting. He was uncomfortable and was doing his finger flicking and I tried to talk to him. I got hit in the back of the head for talking and interrupting the sermon. Ironically enough, the same youth leaders had been talking about all types of sin earlier and now here they were policing the meeting.

The friends I made at the cult camps were fun but the culture of those at the top and middle of the spiritual ladder were definitely evil.


I hope the poor girl in your anecdote found solace later in life.

Best.
LC.

London calling was interesting reading your experience at camp
I think the boys you speak of is the Sons of the same youth leader in spoke of for what I have heard.
This seems a common thing it seems in Smc . Me being a parent and Nana to 8 grand kids I can assure you if anyone told me any of them bullied other kids anytime I can tell you they would be punished and made to apologise to the kids they bullied. Also they would be in my eyesight 24/7 till end of camp.


> I hope the poor girl in your anecdote found solace
> later in life.
>
> Best.
> LC.


Sorry to say she is no longer with us. For what I heard she went to another church with a fellow ex falkirk youth member after I left and were treated great. But sadly died before I plucked up the courage to find.my youth friends again 4p years on

London'scalling wrote...
"Alan Martin and Pauline Anderson have put their heads above the e parapet and have been well and truly shot down. They didn’t dodge the bullets but have taken them for all of us. I believe they are both good people (not perfect, no one is) and have had the courage to stand up and stand out. Pauline Anderson would appear to have done a lot of soul searching over the years and has drawn away from Struthers. I don’t think she would have been seeking a place of leadership as I’ve always heard that she is very happy in England and has no desire to come back to Scotland (can we blame her?)…I wonder if the source who is saying she sought a place of leadership or the top job is just a case of trying to muddy her name and reputation because she has spoken up? Worth a ponder perhaps."
..........

I can assure you, Londonscalling, that Pauline Anderson's motivation for writing the open letter was purely altruistic and vengeful. She didn't get the "top spot" and basically went in the huff. Read previous posts. This woman has proven to be a sanctimonious bully and in order to gain any credibility should come on here and apologise to those she hurt...perhaps in an open letter since that seems to be her modus operandi.

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Mulberry p237
Being privy to some inside information i can confirm that the leadership in SMC are now describing Pauline Anderson and Allen Martin as "very troublesome and misguided". They are now seen as usurpers and Offenders of the "Faith."
Now there's a surprise!

Note the NOW describing. This would tie in with TheGreek’s earlier post:

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TheGreek p236
And yet again we hear rumblings of this mental health lie (or confidentiality betrayal) being put forward in response to the publication of publicly available documents on this public website.

Oddly, the writer of the recently published documents was treated with respect and a public reply initially by the Struthers executive. Now the publication, we hear, has led to furious anger and accusations of adverse mental health.

Clearly the Executive did no see the letter from Pauline as an issue. Even an “open letter” is ok to them, as long as it is only open to those in the organisation. The one thing they cannot stand is anyone outside of the organisation having any information about their inner workings.

The reason is simple - the Emperor is not wearing any clothes. As long as the crowd is controlled by their messages, they can talk about how lovely the new clothes are, and how only those blessed with special sight can see them, but you cannot have anyone from outside asked for an opinion, as they have not been indoctrinated onto believing the Emperor has these wonderful new clothes. Sorry folks, this is about as cultish as it gets.

And TheGreek’s comment that this is “yet again” is in itself worth nothing, as it raises the age-old question of whether things are the same as they have always been.

If they are, then they need to repent and change. If not, then they need to read Matthew 23.

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Matthew 23v 29-32
29 Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous. 30 And you say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our ancestors, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ 31 So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. 32 Go ahead, then, and complete what your ancestors started!

The SMC executive have to make up their mind - do they agree with their former leaders (including Alison Spears, since she has received a lot of recent attention), or do they not? Those in the congregations need to know whether the current leadership stand by what she did and how she did it, and with choices about the school, or whether they are they saying, as Jesus reported the teachers of the law said: ‘If we had lived in the days of our ancestors, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’

Which is it, new Chair and Executive? Do you endorse all that has gone before, or are you taking a Matthew 23v30 position?


Since I am quoting Matthew Chapter 23, the recent stories of camps and youth leaders reminds me of an earlier verse in that chapter:

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Matthew 23 v 15
Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are.

I think that is what happened with many of the youth leaders – they were taught that bullying and a lack of any compassion for others was “the spiritual way”, tried to implement that teaching and as a result caused untold damage to those they were meant to be “leading”.



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Just wondering if there is a problem with the private message system for this site as I’ve PMd a couple of folks and not got a reply.
It’s fine if they don’t want to reply but I just thought it unusual!