1: Follow me and l will get you all you
need. Just allow yourself, yuk yuk yuk
self,
"DIE DIE DIE TO SELF. NYIELD FULLY TO ME,
ME ME AND MORE OF ME!".

2: "Some of you just won't make it
spiritislly because you are indeeeependent refuseingvto Break, Break Break," lound bang on the lectern, staring at the guilty that's Me and some of the other loathed ones".
NOW Look, WHY NOT BE LIKE Elaine she is a super disciple of mine. I made her all she is todsy. I sprinkled her with fairy dust and she adores me, follows me like a doe eyed pup and she is a great parrot. If your lucky you will hear her repeat after me.
BREAK, VBREAK, BREAK TO MY OR MRS SPIERS WILL.

3: lf you are really crafty like me "OOOOO Like me you may get offerings your mittens on finances, be a director, get suckers to pay for your pension etc.

4:Be like me and you can bully, annoy, vharrass and never be accountable for any of it!

5: Look microphones off Graaaaham get those mics off time to rant about Mr Black, Mary and Grace. He was a hen pecked man, spoiled by his wife and daughters, don't tell Grace.
Mary was too controlling and would not break to me but look who's top dog now!

6: Follow me, yield to me, break to me and your life will turn around just do it, don't hesitate.
"" Elaine and Janice both come, come share what do you have to share this morning? *

E&J, " Break, break break".
BREAK BREAK, BREAK".
7: Spiers now - " l would now like to share
the vision " See A Pool, A POOOL of blood with dead animals everywhere, screaming, howling, more blood, maggots and be inspired that's where l could lead you you too could have such visions! (Yuk yuk yuk.).

HOW UNSCRIPTURAL IS THAT BUT OOPS SHE DIDN'T READ THE BIBLE APRT FROM 1 VERSE IN HEBREWS

JUST SHARING THE RUBBISH WE GOT FOR FAR CTOO LONG.
HEY HO THE WICKED SPIDERS GONE.

MRS SPiers told by one you knowthatvyou avidily follow this so start reading the gospel and memorise what you can. I never broke to you the cross was a better option, much safer.
ESME

Esme,

You really describe some horrible stuff. The Directors really need to be held to account about this. Why did they allow this? Did they not know it was going on?

Esme, I’ve copied and reposted your new message which was on the main Forum list.

Polly wanted top spot
Posted by: Esmespiers ()
Date: April 09, 2025 03:30PM

Good morning everyone. Yes Petitor Sadly that vision haunted a lot of us. Especially us dog lovers, l gave you the short version. She claimed it to be cvision.
My father says, " Paul ANDERSON, vi's a bit of a hypocrite. He says she was like the rest of them in it up to her knees.".
Talking of knees he tells that Pauline ANDERSON of teen Challenge and DOnOVOUR.
Took many into the vestry for EXCORCISM in the 80s, 90s up to ptesentvtimes. So she seems a bit of a hypocrite. He is raging with her. Years ago she took someone called Caroline into a vestry with Black and they had to get medical help as Caroline's knee got dislocated. Where they mad? Prayer should not cause that but no she had to be restrained and Pauline Anderson was happy to testify about that.! "In fact she rebelled in being Mr Blacks ' Chosen, Precious one!
So 'Polly'
As my father calls her mustvhave a right to her say but she was The Machine!
What is behind Pollys strop, did she want the top spot?

ESME

ThePetitor, No I don’t think the other leaders knew what was going on. But A Speirs was given her turn at preaching at the Summer Camps, so the other leaders would have heard her there. She made everyone laugh. People liked her funny stories. But to speak about the Black family like she did is in bad taste.

By the way, who pecked Mr Black? I never saw things that way because he came over as a very strong individual. I know that he and Mary clashed over issues and often didn’t agree. What do other posters think?


Esme, I remember hearing from A Sp that vision re the blood, dead stuff, mud etc. She said it was a picture of her life before she became a Christian. God showed her the state she was in. I’m not sure I see the point of repeating the vision but it must be to threaten and frighten young people that they are in a similar position unless they get saved and delivered.

As for the “Break, Break”, there’s nothing broken about any of these folk mentioned. They’re just following a person, A Speirs, and not God, which is a form of idol worship. The fruit is evident- lack of love, condemnation and dismissal of those who they deem to be hopeless cases. Nobody is a hopeless case though. What she was preaching is not the true gospel of Christ. I’m glad you saw the light and got out, Esme. You’re not the person that they believed you were.

Rensil Wrote:
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> Esme, I’ve copied and reposted your new message
> which was on the main Forum list.
>
> Polly wanted top spot
> Posted by: Esmespiers ()
> Date: April 09, 2025 03:30PM
>
> Good morning everyone. Yes Petitor Sadly that
> vision haunted a lot of us. Especially us dog
> lovers, l gave you the short version. She claimed
> it to be cvision.
> My father says, " Paul ANDERSON, vi's a bit of a
> hypocrite. He says she was like the rest of them
> in it up to her knees.".
> Talking of knees he tells that Pauline ANDERSON of
> teen Challenge and DOnOVOUR.
> Took many into the vestry for EXCORCISM in the
> 80s, 90s up to ptesentvtimes. So she seems a bit
> of a hypocrite. He is raging with her. Years ago
> she took someone called Caroline into a vestry
> with Black and they had to get medical help as
> Caroline's knee got dislocated. Where they mad?
> Prayer should not cause that but no she had to be
> restrained and Pauline Anderson was happy to
> testify about that.! "In fact she rebelled in
> being Mr Blacks ' Chosen, Precious one!
> So 'Polly'
> As my father calls her mustvhave a right to her
> say but she was The Machine!
> What is behind Pollys strop, did she want the top
> spot?
>
> ESME

Esme, if you look back on my previous posts you'll see that I have written the same concerning Pauline Anderson. She was a holier-than-thou bully who now needs to openly apologise to her "victims" before writing sanctimonious open letters to the very warped organisation she once represented. In my opinion she wanted the coveted "top spot" and when she didn't get it she hit Struthers with her very public, very stroppy, open letter.

As Al Duff correctly states this forum has been the most effective means of holding feet to the fire and bringing accountability to the utterly unaccountable. Struthers Memorial Church behaves appallingly and its leadership use twisted scripture to try and avoid being questioned and challenged. They hide, they obfuscate and they seek to cover up their many past and present sins.

In doing so they apply two techniques with dreary repetitiveness to those questioning or complaining.
1) Seeking to keep people from speaking about their concerns to their family and Christian friends.
2) And if they do speak putting it about the church that “these people” are mentally ill.

If, as usual, that is based on no medical diagnosis it is a made up, self serving false testimony to enable them to hold on to the income from the foolish who they seek to manipulate into remaining.

If it is based on a medical diagnosis of which they are aware it is a despicable breach of ethics and confidentiality and any leader indulging in such self serving folly should be suspended, investigated and if guilty sacked. And there should be rigorous biblical leadership guidelines making that requirement clear which candidates should have to sign up to before they can be in leadership in Struthers church.

And yet again we hear rumblings of this mental health lie (or confidentiality betrayal) being put forward in response to the publication of publicly available documents on this public website.

Oddly, the writer of the recently published documents was treated with respect and a public reply initially by the Struthers executive. Now the publication, we hear, has led to furious anger and accusations of adverse mental health. Someone put the executive’s reply document on as well but it appears that doesn’t indicate that they too are mad men. Just the people asking questions - not the people failing to answer them.

So in secret whispers they let it be known that the person questioning their wisdom and suggesting they should repent like normal Christians when things in their church go badly wrong are mentally unstable. Even though they appear to be saying exactly what Mr Black and Ms Taylor would have said.


So Time for Some Questions:

Do the whole executive and all the local leaders endorse this self serving and unprofessional use of rumour as a weapon against those who are questioning the failures and negative direction of the church?

Is it acceptable to do this according to the Safeguarding, Complaints and the still developing Whistleblowing processes? Or even (more bizarrely) according to the Church Policy Development Process the executive are spending so much time on? How can someone contribute to that if by merely suggesting a change they will be dismissed as unhinged? Do any of these policies allow leaders to issue self serving lies or confidential medical information based on no clinical diagnosis but rather on what the leaders wish was true?

What happens after the self declared prophets (who must be obeyed) allow the sharing of such a diagnosis and a clinician later delivers a clean bill of mental health? Would that failed and self serving prophet resign in shame and be called to repent of using their “gift “in a way that spreads falsehood and dishonours God? Or in Struthers is a self declared prophet claiming to be right in the face of all the facts still to be honoured for their superior self declared inner holiness? Apparently so.

Would any of the executive or local leaders seeking to preserve their professional reputations outside the church like to disassociate themselves from such vile and mendacious tactics in the charity they run?



Perhaps their Feet will be to the Fire

The Struthers church executive and leaders over this next few months will be publicly examined and tested like few other Scottish church leaders in history have been. They are already responsible for the most extensively complained about church in the UK by a long, long way. To pretend, as the recently published reply letter did, that this level of complaint and concern is just a minor and small scale matter of a few people makes them look like idiots.

Many, many far worse things that will thoroughly scrutinise this charity are already on their way towards the executive directors.

So it may be time for them to sit down the supreme leader and require her to tell them everything before they have to answer for things that are going to come up that they will discover they don’t know nearly enough about.

It is time for them to require her to ensure they know all the historical secrets, falsehoods and cover ups that are holding this failing church together. Require her to tell them how often in the distant and recent past she and other main leaders have deliberately chosen not to follow the agreed charity Safeguarding procedures but instead chose to cover up their failures and their harm to lives and call such dereliction of duty “the way God led us”. If she says there is nothing, and it subsequently turns out she was hiding things from her fellow directors then she must face consequences.

Deliberately speaking falsehoods to the people of God is completely unacceptable according to New Testament teaching.

It should also be unacceptable in Struthers Memorial Church


So Struthers Executive - it is time to get your stories straight.

And if she will not let you know everything, or claims all is well, that assurance may be enough to help you deal with the public accountability that is coming and give you confidence that your professional reputations are secure.


Or in that case you might be better advised by a relevant quote from a famous literary character who said:

“Before this gets started, does anyone want to get out?”

Alison Spiers rules for life:

1 : Be top dog at all times.

2: Bully loudly and effectively.

3: Surround one's self with people that will obey without thinking, if not crush them until they do.

4: Ensure lies are told to Grace every Sunday on weekly call ie, " Glasgow SMC is thriving we have lots of new people every week.

5: Crush anyone that rebels, sounds questioning.

Y6: Circle time give a negative word to anyone that sounds as though they can think for themselves.
R
7: Vestry trestment for those who don't break do this until they do.

8: "Control the parents then easy access to the children.
9: Ensure Lorna, wee lamb chops has no more than 2 pupils.
10: Get more funds for my pension and syphonecas much out of Jay and Fiona as possible. In fact give Fiina instruction on how to lead her life.
11: Pray with Elaine and Janice forcyh
Zillionth time with treble portion of fairy dust.

12. Make sure the fairy dust works in Largs it certainly worked on Pauline Anderson who was was distraught she never got top dog, so near but so far. She can now pretend she was not part of 30 years screaming at people, giving out vestry treatment, bully people and strutting around being pompous because Mr Black backed her up.

14: Compliment all my sychophants and arrange more vestry for Amy, Esme, Sophie, Andy, Ian, Alison N and Aileen. They all really annoy me and need sorted as they drag the churc, school, my kingdom down, down down. Yes, l can bring it sll down.
Kids calling.

Esme


Thanks Mulberry.
Esme

Been reading over the past few, very interesting posts.
We in the Glasgow church who knew Pauline note that the letter does not appear to be written in her style -so I’d suspect huge
group-effort here.
I am also very surprised that she is taking this stance, opposing all she has stood for, & actioned, for 40+ years.

On another point. As we watched AS’s influence grow out of hand in Glasgow, interesting things happened. Parents had attended Sunday mornings for years with their kids, at 11am but once the new group of babies arrived these parents realised their children were ‘up early anyway so we’re going to start the Sunday morning service earlier’ as the parents were exhausted occupying them until it started.
So the whole world moved and the meeting started at 10, or 10.30??
I found this quite amusing.

And while we all complied with it, still dealing with our own trials of work, meeting attendance and kids, one of them I won’t name, stood up and preached, or ticked us all off (in scolding tones) one Sunday, telling us of a dream she’d had where she was pushing an articulated lorry up a hill all by herself and we ALL needed to do more to help her solo-effort.
I have no words to describe my opinion of this ‘sermon’.

TheGreek said

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TheGreek
They are already responsible for the most extensively complained about church in the UK by a long, long way. To pretend, as the recently published reply letter did, that this level of complaint and concern is just a minor and small scale matter of a few people makes them look like idiots.

No only idiots, but liars. They absolutely 100% know their statement is not true.

That is the heart of the problem - they always think they know best. Even direct factual lies are acceptable to them because they know best and noting can ever challenge that.

They have a complaints policy, but just ignore it and do whatever they want because they want - because they know best.

They have safeguarding practices they simply ignore - because they know best.

As the Greek says, Doctors can say an individual has no mental health diagnosis, but SMC decide the person does have mental health issues - because they know best.

The Bible says to appoint elders, but they don't - because they know best.

One hundred people say they have issues with the way they have been treated, but Struthers says there is only a small number - because they know best.

This is living in a fantasy world, but that cannot last, it eventually rubs up against reality, and reality is always going to win out eventually.

On another note, Mulberry, I hear your criticism of Pauline, and am sure that is justified. She absolutely should be asking herself whether there are things she should be apologising for.

That does not take away from any questions that are being raised however. As I said quite recently:

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ThePetitor, p235 of this forum
Regarding remaining anonymous, I think there is one other reason people may chose to remain anonymous, and that is because they think points should be considered on their merit and irrespective of the author. This is why the traditional depiction of Justice includes a blindfold – judges should consider the facts and merits of a case, not who is speaking.

If you read about an incident that someone is upset because of how they were treated, or a more theoretical argument about theology, or an analysis of the finances or the decision-making processes, you should look at the content of what is said, not the person saying it. That is one of the problems with the Struthers approach, they need to know who is speaking before they decide whether something is true. If it is one of the leaders, then it is true, and if it is a critic, then it is false. This is an atrocious way to go about making important decisions in life.

So, irrespective of who the author is, it seems to me there are questions there that need to be answered. We are all free to have a view on these matters, but we have to express our views about the specific matters, not simply disregard them because of who happens to be speaking.