Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Date: December 13, 2018 09:43AM
5 Things You Should Know About Chris Butler new
Posted by: Vera City ()
Date: July 02, 2012
THIS POST BY VERA CITY IS A GREAT EXPLANATION OF THE A to Z concerning the BUTLER CULT .
FIVE THINGS YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT CHRIS BUTLER
This is my list of the 5 things people should know about Chris Butler and his dangerous cult. I am sure others on this forum have their own list. My list comes from reports and friendships with exer’s who have escaped his clutches over the years. I have also formed my conclusions from primary historical sources such as transcripts and cult correspondences. Therefore, anyone considering joining this cult should be very cautious and consider the experiences of those who have lived under the Butler domain for a few years to decades.
1. Chris Butler is a charismatic, narcissistic, con man. He has no special pipeline to a g0dhead. He is a self-appointed guru who only cares about his own comfort. He has deluded himself and his followers into believing that he is some sort of Christ, Guru of the Universe, or Messiah for all time. In reality he is paranoid, chronically feigns illness, and displays many phobias. He lives in fear of the world. He has become increasingly secretive and reclusive over the years. He simultaneously loathes but is irrevocably dependent on his followers. He is trapped in the fable of his own making.
2. Chris Butler enjoys the power he obtains from manipulating thousands of followers to do his bidding. He is the penultimate puppet master pulling the strings behind many businesses and political campaigns. He has created a sophisticated network, based on the lies he has perpetuated about himself that brings adulation and millions of dollars yearly.
3. Chris Butler has destroyed many marriages and families who have sacrificed their years, life savings, labor, time, opportunities, and educations, for his selfish purposes. The children of serious followers are shipped off to a school in the Philippines for further indoctrination and isolation from society. They are all fooled into doing this by believing he is g0d’s representative and pure servant. They are brainwashed into believing that by serving Butler, even by eating the spit off his plate will purify their souls.
4. Chris Butler has made up his own theology that bears little resemblance to the Gaudiya Sampradaya, the disciplic succession of which he claims to be a part. He draws authority from this line but breaks many of their principles. He forbids his followers from reading the works of gurus in his supposed line. There are many examples of his deviations; one being that after he took sanyassi (a life-long commitment to serve as a celibate monk) he breaks this vow to marry the wife of a follower who has children. There are no new public writings or photographs since the 1980’s. His books and videos are paltry examples at best of Vaishnavism. His followers live a life of censorship. They are forbidden to associate with non-Butlerites or hear different points of view. Butler’s debates are not based on knowledge but on straw man arguments.
5. Chris Butler is the ultimate taker who gives nothing in return, except for methods and mantras for people to self-hypnotize themselves into thinking that serving Butler is the highest purpose in life. He preys on the lost, the curious, the idealist, the naïve, and takes no responsibility for the damages in his wake. He does not care for anyone except for what he can gain from them.
I could write an essay on every point that follows. It is a good guideline to help avoid falling into Butler’s cult. From this information it is easy to ascertain that Chris Butler is a very dangerous cult leader.
By Rick Ross, Expert Consultant and Intervention Specialist
Ten warning signs of a potentially unsafe group/leader.
1. Absolute authoritarianism without meaningful accountability.
2. No tolerance for questions or critical inquiry.
3. No meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget, expenses such as an independently audited financial statement.
4. Unreasonable fear about the outside world, such as impending catastrophe, evil conspiracies and persecutions.
5. There is no legitimate reason to leave, former followers are always wrong in leaving, negative or even evil.
6. Former members often relate the same stories of abuse and reflect a similar pattern of grievances.
7. There are records, books, news articles, or television programs that document the abuses of the group/leader.
8. Followers feel they can never be "good enough".
9. The group/leader is always right.
10. The group/leader is the exclusive means of knowing "truth" or receiving validation, no other process of discovery is really acceptable or credible.
Ten warning signs regarding people involved in/with a potentially unsafe group/leader.
1. Extreme obsessiveness regarding the group/leader resulting in the exclusion of almost every practical consideration.
2. Individual identity, the group, the leader and/or God as distinct and separate categories of existence become increasingly blurred. Instead, in the follower's mind these identities become substantially and increasingly fused--as that person's involvement with the group/leader continues and deepens.
3. Whenever the group/leader is criticized or questioned it is characterized as "persecution".
4. Uncharacteristically stilted and seemingly programmed conversation and mannerisms, cloning of the group/leader in personal behavior.
5. Dependency upon the group/leader for problem solving, solutions, and definitions without meaningful reflective thought. A seeming inability to think independently or analyze situations without group/leader involvement.
6. Hyperactivity centered on the group/leader agenda, which seems to supercede any personal goals or individual interests.
7. A dramatic loss of spontaneity and sense of humor.
8. Increasing isolation from family and old friends unless they demonstrate an interest in the group/leader.
9. Anything the group/leader does can be justified no matter how harsh or harmful.
10. Former followers are at best-considered negative or worse evil and under bad influences. They can not be trusted and personal contact is avoided.
Ten signs of a safe group/leader.
1. A safe group/leader will answer your questions without becoming judgmental and punitive.
2. A safe group/leader will disclose information such as finances and often offer an independently audited financial statement regarding budget and expenses. Safe groups and leaders will tell you more than you want to know.
3. A safe group/leader is often democratic, sharing decision making and encouraging accountability and oversight.
4. A safe group/leader may have disgruntled former followers, but will not vilify, excommunicate and forbid others from associating with them.
5. A safe group/leader will not have a paper trail of overwhelmingly negative records, books, articles and statements about them.
6. A safe group/leader will encourage family communication, community interaction and existing friendships and not feel threatened.
7. A safe group/leader will recognize reasonable boundaries and limitations when dealing with others.
8. A safe group/leader will encourage critical thinking, individual autonomy and feelings of self-esteem.
9. A safe group/leader will admit failings and mistakes and accept constructive criticism and advice.
10. A safe group/leader will not be the only source of knowledge and learning excluding everyone else, but value dialogue and the free exchange of ideas.
Don't be naïve, develop a good BS Detector.
You can protect yourself from unsafe groups and leaders by developing a good BS detector. Check things out, know the facts and examine the evidence. A safe group will be patient with your decision making process. If a group or leader grows angry and anxious just because you want to make an informed and careful decision before joining; beware.