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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Date: December 17, 2016 07:06PM

AC4711 Wrote:
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> dear cult leaders and followers.
> you are all crazy. can't believe you will keep
> doing this to the children (rama and more) who
> were raised in your cult. shame on you.
> have you no faith in god? your guru is not leading
> you to god. but in to a materialistic life of law
> and judges. can't believe it... but oh well.
> soon enough the charade will be uncovered, we need
> more truth.
> I feel sorry for everyone associated with this
> cult.
> may god have mercy on you. ease up on the kids..
> but I guess Mr. butler wants them to pay for his
> Glory. That is messed up chris.. .have you lost
> your mind?
> you have.

Thank you I appreciate this!

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Conversations With Laks Ranson
Date: December 17, 2016 07:11PM

I have been very busy working on my new comic strips for a year, I finally finished them and delivered them to Thrasher magazine a couple days ago. This is one reason I have been letting mountains of info pile up. Here is the first of a few things I had been meaning to publish.

A transcript of a week of conversations with Laks Ranson aka Sudama Peter Ranson Chris Butler's #1 slave.

I got some amazing photos in this article of my brother walking the cult leader around the neighborhood.

https://ramaransonvsthecult.wordpress.com/2016/12/17/conversations-with-my-brainwashed-brother-laks-ranson/


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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: AC4711 ()
Date: December 21, 2016 12:43AM

great pics. yea that looks like gods representative on earth. why does he need protection ? if this guy is better than jesus.. and is gods best friend on earth.. why some guards to protect your fragile self ? buck up disciple of AC Baktivedanta swami? that racist yes -->> AC BAktivedanta is a racist sexist crazy person.. but come on Siddaswarup.. your guru would laugh at your scared fragile self. you are a disgrace to your guru. from a tough talking surfer dude from the islands.. to this old white man needing protection.. funny stuff Siddswarup... you are a joke to even the concept of a guru..come on take your shirt off.. let your male followers fawn over your naked torso and massage your feet.
jeeezuz..

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Re: Conversations With Laks Ranson
Posted by: Vera City ()
Date: December 21, 2016 09:38PM

What the fuck is Chris wearing!?
What's that on his head!?

Laks conversation is a classic exercise in cult apology.

They diminish all criticism of the cult.

Never introspective, never taking responsibility, never considering other points of view...unsympathetic, defensive, bigoted, and cold.
They characterize (demonize, dismiss) the victims of the cult as "angry" or crazy or unhappy and somehow deficient. Ultimately critics of guru are so "wrong" that they are not worthy of company.

Why can't they just let Rama be Rama and be cool about their differences?

Oh, the ultimate "mad elephant offense". What a Catch-22.

Laks needs to look at his own ego regarding his position. Really disappointed in his lack of personality and preachiness.

I suggest any one reading this forum or Rama's blog review Cult Eds Ten warning signs of a potentially unsafe group/leader.

How deep in denial they all are regarding this cult...

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: just-googling ()
Date: January 03, 2017 01:01AM

As a New Year summary, I have compiled some old verses to summarize the situation so far.

I just saw a movie called "The Life of Pi" - so I have entitled this:

THE LIFE OF SAI

There was a man from Oahu
Who owned a zodiac or two
YAHOO!

He ruled the ocean waves
With his gang of devoted slaves
Yarr, 'tis unbelievable but true!

He was losing touch with reality
Blamed EVERYTHING on homosexuality
Got himself entangled in a nasty mix
Of money, religion, power and politics

Holy! Holy! Holy?
What a bunch of baloney!

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Date: January 14, 2017 11:28PM

Hello friends! Thanks AC4711 and Vera, great analysis Vera! Love you guys!

And Googs, that's a fricken classic! Holy Hell! Ha ha love it!

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The DEFINITIVE Tulsi Gaboard EXPOSÉ!
Date: January 14, 2017 11:30PM

Alright everyone, hold on to your seats...

WHO IS TULSI GABBARD?

This guy wrote a book's worth of info on every aspect of Tulsi Gabbard and her ties to Chris Butler, Lavendra Modi, cultist AC Bhaktivedanta Swami, Bernie Sanders, the DNC and now Donald J Trump. This is scathing on every level. A book sized article and two 60 minute radio shows dedicated to exposing her for who she truly is, unbelievable!

Both links contain the book sized article.

Part 1: [spitfirelist.com]

Part 2: [spitfirelist.com]

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Date: January 15, 2017 02:58AM

I had some funny comments on my recent "Conversations With My Brainwashed Brother" article.

I am guessing it is a Butler cult member posing as a classic ISKCON style Hare Krishna attempting to debate me on Gaudiya Vaishnavaism and defend A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami's pro rape teachings.

You can see them on that article or go to this post on my Facebook I copied them to there and corrected a few typos. It is fairly vulgar so I won't print it here, but dig in, it's good fun.

https://www.facebook.com/33rama/posts/10212282505405995

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: just-googling ()
Date: January 21, 2017 09:40PM

[www.youtube.com]

"FAITH AND FEAR"

I am not sure if this documentary has been posted on this forum before. This is a very good documentary that outlines the abuse that many children underwent at the so-called gurukula schools in the USA and in India.

The first part of the film documents the arrival of A.C. Bhaktivedanta to the United States and how he gained many followers. This report is unbiased and does not in any way criticize their religious beliefs, in my opinion.

The problem was that many followers became so fanatical about their religious beliefs that they neglected the needs of their children. The biggest mistake that the "Prabhupad" made, in my opinion, was his order that children be taken away from their parents at the age of 5 years old. HUGE MISTAKE.

Although this documentary is about the ISKCON organization, the exact same mindset is also manifested in the SoI cult members. Although the stories of abuse from Butler's Philippine school may be less horrendous than what the ISKCON kids underwent, the same ridiculous indoctrination is still there.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: January 22, 2017 02:34AM

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The biggest mistake that the "Prabhupad" made, in my opinion, was his order that children be taken away from their parents at the age of 5 years old. HUGE MISTAKE.

Old man Prab was arrogant. HE was never taken away from his own parents; he got to live at home with his parents.

One of his early disciples wrote a cookbook entitled Lord Krisna's Cuisine; it is full of stories told by Prabhupada. He appears to have had a pampered childhood.

Here are some quotations from those stories.

[forum.culteducation.com]

This creature was not robbed of his own childhood; but he felt entitled to rob legions of children of their childhoods.

Ditto for Rajneesh/Osho.

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