Butler's Web: Krishna, Politics, and QNET's International Pyramid Scheme
On the financial front, a key part of the Butler group’s business network - rooted in the Down to Earth vegetarian grocery chain and Hong Kong-based QNET’s alleged international pyramid scheme – is currently being scrutinized in the Supreme Court of India.
Our friend dharmabum posted this all the way back in 2012 on CEI in the Marketing section of the message board.
Corboy says check it out.
And here is why it is important to copy and capture anything informative
Five years after the Business Insider Egypt published the 2012 feature
story on QNet, that story is very difficult to access.
You can read the full article thanks to two alert entities:
CEI message board member dharmabum (see above)
A diligent volunteer at the Internet Archives
In dharmabums last essay on the QNet thread (read the whole thing)
Watching Joseph Bismark gives motivational speeches to wide-eyed QNET followers (victims) on YouTube, the same creeps and woowoos one gets when listening to fake gurus, full of esoteric wisdom and otherworldly tales: “I am this”, “I am that” nonsense.
For those who do not know, Science of Identity Institute is far from the “University” Joseph Bismark called it as and claimed it to be. The Haribols are a bunch of naive and impressionable hippies who are clueless about Vedic knowledge; they profess to have understood and mastered. Clueless as their egomaniac, “spiritual” leader, Siddhaswarup Chris Butler, a failed Hare Krishna GBC head of Hawaii, who insisted to the very end that he is the sole bona fide guru from a disciplic succession to be the representative of the god, Krishna, despite the consistent reproaches from the founder himself, A.C. Bhaktivedanta, his ISKCON godbrothers, and from the wider community the cult stemmed from.
To his credit, where he failed, as a renown international religious leader, Chris Butler seems to be thriving as a savvy gimmick king.
From day one, he espoused the philosophy of “dovetailing” seemingly worldly aspirations in the service of Krishna, meaning, engagement in instead of renouncing the world, encouraging his devout followers to excel in the business world and local politics.
If only they all were legitimate and honest. Hearing “whatever means necessary” rings of ISKCON’s “the end justifies the means.” The Hare Krishnas’ fall from grace. History repeats itself over and over again. It’s true: hyenas don’t change spots.
Five years ago, while insiders and ex-members were busy exposing Tulsi’s gimmickry: fund-raising campaign and Hindu claim, another gimmickry were slipping by unnoticed. Bismark claimed to be a penniless yogi when he met the money-man, Eswaran. If Christine was right, it is the other way around.
The big picture may be true and is the big expose: Patrick Bowler’s drug money. It’s a shame; it took an outsider to connect the dots. Kudos Miss Gralow!
Again, the QNet thread is over in the Cult Education Institute's MultiLevel Marketing(MLM) section.
Multi Level Marketing, readers. Like this list on Wikipedia.
QNet is tied to Chris Butler, guru to the Gabbard family, which includes US Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard.
Who swore to uphold the law and constitution of the United States of America.
What is gonna happen if a Congressional committee ever investigates the latest group of MLM groups?
Can we trust Tulsi to recuse herself from serving on such a committee due to potential conflict of interest?
She took her oath of office on the Bhagavad Gita.
And here are some verses from the beginning of the Bhagavad Gita
as translated by Ann Stanford, Herder and Herder, 1970.
The BG begins with Arjuna, a great warrior facing an army composed of his relatives and teachers. He is a brave man, veteran of numerous combats.
But Arjuna decides he cannot kill his relatives, though they are his adversaries.
He speaks to his chariot driver who is the god Krishna in disguise. This is the god worshipped by Chris Butler and his disciples, including the Gabbard family.
"Teachers, fathers and sons
And fathers of fathers besides,
Uncles, fathers-in-law, grandsons
Brothers-in-law, and other kinsmen-
These I would not kill
Though they should kill me, Slayer of Madhu,
Not to be ruler of the three worlds,
How much less for a kingdom of the earth.
Krishna replies in Canto Two -- he calls Arjuna a coward for having
"Where in the hour of danger
has this stain on your spirit come from?
It is in-noble, not leading to heaven,
It is inglorious, Arjuna.
Are you a coward, son of Pritha?
It is not right for you.
Shake off this petty weakness
Stand up, Scorcher of the Foe.
(Corboy, the BG is a surprising 'holy book' isn't it, eh?)
How shall I send my arrows
At men worth worship, Slayer of Foes?
Better eat beggars food in the world
Than kill my masters worth revering.
If I kill such men, though they seek gain
I would eat food smeared with blood.
The god Krishna, this god who is venerated by Chris Butler and his followers,
and presumably, by Tulsi Gabbard, as she took her oath of office on the Bhagvad Gita --here is what the god Krishna says.
You grieve for those you should not
And yet you talk about wisdom
The truly taught do not mourn the dead or the living.
Krishna then teaches Arjuna that only the body dies, the
soul does not, the soul merely passes to another body
"When a man knows him as undying
Constant, never born, eternal,
How does such a man cause killing
Or when does he kill, son of Pritha?
As a man throws off his threadbare clothes
And puts on others that are new
So leaving his worn out bodies
The embodied takes other fresh ones.
Swords cannot wound him
Nor fire consume him
Nor is he drenched by water
And the wind does not wither him.
So, readers, this is the core story by which Chris Butler and his devotees
ground their ethics.
Now, who here has a conscience?
Who would you rather trust?
Arjuna, before Krishna got to him?
Or, would you trust a bloke like Krishna?
That's a core teaching in Butler's group -- that our bodies are not real.
And that comes from the Bhagavad Gita
. And you have just now seen
Krishna using 'the body is not real' to coax Arjuna to ignore his compassion
and instead do his duty as a warrior and kill the people he loves.
Because it is his duty
To whom does Tulsi owe her duty?
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/29/2017 07:07AM by corboy.