Thank you, Vera City, for the information. It was good reading it and seeing so much of myself there.
I was really solidly into the Krishna, ACB, CB thing, thinking that there were authorities that could show me the 'truth' or 'god'.
How totally wrong I was! It felt secure. It felt great to get a big smile from CB. Even to hear him tell a joke was thrilling back then. I was hanging onto his toe nails, I suppose.
...I will not take their bullying ways ever again. Of course, they steer clear of any person who can really stand up to them. And they have an excuse for everything.
I was so messed up that it took me 20 years or more to totally get over it.
It saddens me to hear how many years these people stole from your life. We are hoping the testamonies and resources here will help others cycle out of there more quickly or not join at all. You are right, they do have an excuse for everything. The main thing you can address is how the "yamadutas" did not eat you alive and that life is significantly better out of the cult, in spite of life's ups and downs. I have yet to meet an exer who regrets leaving. It is also helpful to share strategies you used to overcome the programming and free your soul and mind.
The Butlerites are still going strong. An exer just told me this week that they were recently recruiting at a Sacramento Art fair, chanting on guitars and selling his books. There must be a Butler push after all these websites with old quotes started to flood the internet a couple of years ago (after years of quiet isolationism).
No one likes to do the door to door or public shit. This would only happen on Butler's orders. I'm sure the story went something like this: "The househoders and their kids are getting too happy and fat with their prosperous businesses. They are not serving their spiritual master. They are all falling into maya. Going door to door and selling books is pleasing to g0d and guru." Of course Butler would add curses, explitives, and attack key people. He'd also extort more money from his followers. He may have threatened to "leave the planet" to strike terror in their hearts or claim that they are spiritually dead to motivate them. And they do believe it and they do jump....for that smile....for validation of their (false) identity.
It is interesting that Butler wrote a book called "False Identity equals Bad Economy". The paradox is that if you join his "there is no group to join" group, that you take on a false identity and lose all you money!
Found this link that documents Butler's body of work -- copyright registrations. [www.faqs.org
This link within a link documents proof that Butler owns all the copyrights to Golden Moon, Wai Lana (aka Zhang Hui Lan), and Kama Kula.
So anything produced by the "Ninjai Gang" or Wai Lana is all Butler controlled. Lots of interest in multi-media productions. After Butler saw Star Wars, he has wanted to get into the movie business. He stated in 1977, "Now they have the technology (special effects) to do the Srimad Bhagavatam." Of course he has only used the media to promote his own Empire.
Chris Butler was born in 1948. Some titles refer to a musician named Christopher Butler born 1949. They are not the same person.
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