There is so much in this blog post, in the post referenced by Meadow here.
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There are the base-level meanings of course.
But Byron Katie is also master of metaphors, the kind of stuff Stever Robbins teaches in Mastering Metaphors.
There is so much there, too much to go into now.
But one must always remember to take a few steps back, and look at the larger metaphors being used. Look at the META-LEVEL.
There may or may not even be a real person with the cancer with that name. Is there?
But CANCER is a Byron Katie open nested loop, a nested loop Story, that Byron Katie comes back to constantly. Why? Due to the fear, power, and terror of that word and disease.
Some other metaphors are PAINKILLERS and DRUGS. [
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But the message is not just about those with terminal cancer. The message is really about PAIN.
And in hypnotherapy, its very common practice to try and use hypnosis for PAIN MANAGEMENT. That is one of its main clinical uses.
What they often do, is IMAGINE taking massive doses of painkillers, under hypnosis, to try to block the pain. Does it work? There are all sorts of conflicting claims.
BUT, to the trained-eye, many messages are being sent at once in that blog Story, it is really an Induction in the form of a dialogue, it could have just been written as such, and certainly was edited down.
Yes, there is a clear message for people who could pop-pills until they are doped out of their minds and not only don't feel pain, but don't "exist".
But the "COULD" is also being used as a metaphor.
And there are also the symbolic metaphors about The Work, that insiders are going to understand. The message is to Dissociate to such an extreme extent, that not only do you not feel pain in general, but there is No-Mind, and No-Self. Mind-Cleanse, Mind-Wash.
There have been reports in this very thread about BK followers who became so detached, and so numb, they were almost catatonic.
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"I know a woman who after being involved with the Work for a year...changed from a warm, emotional person into some state close to autism".
So its also part of the larger pattern of using massive repetition, over and over, to induce the extreme Dissociation in her own people.
And notice, in that post...
she is saying that being doped out on painkillers until you are literally out of your mind = Freedom.
Quote:
Katie: "True freedom is freedom from the mind. You take the pills, you’re free from the mind. When the body no longer functions, the mind cannot identify as a this. Everyone gets free. Sooner or later. So let’s free ourselves of the mind."
That is her message.
That being totally wacked-out on painkiller drugs is the same emotional/mental state, as what she is preaching as Freedom, using The Work.
Why is she doing that?
She is trying to create a shortcut, to get people to fall into that same zonked-out state when on massive amounts of painkiller drugs...(and BK does target pill-poppers)...
Why?
Her followers need to think about that very carefully.
Being wacked out on painkiller drugs is the same as the Byron Katie "Freedom"?
Does that make any sense?
No, its simply a short-cut tactic, to try to literally eliminate people's "minds" as much as possible.
Not for Freedom.
But so they will then more easily follow the suggestions and commands coming from Byron Katie without questioning them.
The REAL message is for people to Dissociate to an extreme extent...
QUOTE "let’s free ourselves of the mind"...
That is the illusion. They are NOT freeing themselves of THE mind, but of their OWN mind.
Then Byron Katie's "mind" in terms of her suggestions and words take over the drivers seat.
There are no fancy words for it. Its simply an experiment in Mind-Control. Literally.
Even a follower can see the absurdity here...
where she is saying being wacked out on drugs = Freedom, which is Enlightement.
That is obviously ridiculous. Talk about abusing the No-Mind philosophies.
But its just a tactic, to try and passify people's natural independant minds, by using the drugs as a metaphor, in the Story about cancer and pain control.
The real message is to try and passify the "mind" of the people to the maximum possible level, to try and make some sheeple.
Does it work? Not totally, but its a process, that needs to be repeated, over and over.
It really seems to be an experiment in how far they can take it.
But people of course do not become zombies or such nonsense. Its about INFLUENCE. The more passive the mind, the less critical thinking, the more one takes on the suggestions coming from Byron Katie.
Its about attaining maximum influence, and engineering what appears to be conscious consent.
How far are they going to be able to take it?
Where is it going to end?
And when those who are the receivers of this powerful covert influence, start to become AWARE of what is being done to them, by reading and thinking about it, then as the entire process begins to turnaround and backfire...what then?
Then hopefully it will be time to come forward and tell the truth about what is going on behind closed doors, as the public has a right to know what people are trying to do to them.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/10/2009 09:26AM by The Anticult.