Re: "Jesus Christians," "Australian cult," Dave McKay
Posted by: Apollo ()
Date: May 04, 2011 04:01PM

Almost as laughable as the bollocks he continually spouts about Malcolm ''hiding'' in Korea!

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Re: "Jesus Christians," "Australian cult," Dave McKay
Posted by: Stoic ()
Date: May 05, 2011 01:27AM

I seem to remember that Takatifu Gardens was purchased using loan money from a Quaker woman benefactor, with JC names on the title deed.

Perhaps Davejc is being disingenuous here. (what, Davejc?....say it isn't so!)
We can be fairly sure that the loan was never repaid, money travels in one direction only in a cult set-up, so perhaps in denying ownership Davejc is exploiting this ambiguous situation where the JC's never actually paid for the land but nevertheless appear on the title deeds.

Trying to have it both ways, as always.
The strawman appearing on the title deeds is nevertheless the legal and responsible owner as far as answering to the state regarding questions of ownership, regardless of who originally fronted the cash.

Of course if the title deeds have been signed over to someone else--for a consideration of some kind, maybe, for who gives away land and buildings for nowt? ----there may be an erstwhile benefactor closer to home who will not be too pleased.
Just speculating here.



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Re: "Jesus Christians," "Australian cult," Dave McKay
Posted by: Apollo ()
Date: May 05, 2011 12:56PM

I've been looking into Dave's claim that Takatifu Gardens is now owned by a German charity organisation.

It would not surprise me one bit if McKay has now sold the land at Takatifu or at least sold some of the land. It would certainly top up his pension fund. That doesn't, however, necessarily mean that the JCs natives have moved out.

There is a German Embassy located just 5.4km from Takatifu Gardens, Shinyalu. There is also a German charity organisation located in Killimani, just 12km from Takatifu Gardens.

Dave has something to hide. That is clear. He seems unwilling to reveal the name of this charity organisation. My guess is he doesn't want this organisation to find out they have a cult in their midst and possibly even a child molester.

The fact that the JCs are recognised in Germany as "one of the most dangerous cults in the world today" could explain why Dave is acting a little bit coy. I doubt any reputable German charity organisation would want to be associated with a dangerous cult.

[www.jesus-teachings.com]

It shouldn't be too difficult to identify this German charity organisation, if there really is one now located at Takatifu Gardens, Shinyalu. We shall see.....

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Re: "Jesus Christians," "Australian cult," Dave McKay
Date: May 05, 2011 11:44PM

Thank you, very much, for your patient research Apollo.....it would certainly be meet, to warn any new Charity, that McKay might be seeking to "milk" (for legitimacy or donations or support) of who they are dealing with exactly.....I am presuming that we do not discover that the Director of this anonymous German Charity goes by the name of "Reinhardt".....

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Re: "Jesus Christians," "Australian cult," Dave McKay
Posted by: Apollo ()
Date: May 06, 2011 02:47PM

Oh yes, wouldn't that be convenient Malcolm!

I'm sure we'll get to the bottom of this. If McKay has something to hide we'll find it. Something stinks.

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Re: "Jesus Christians," "Australian cult," Dave McKay
Posted by: Stoic ()
Date: May 06, 2011 03:23PM

Hmmm, well Takatifu Gardens has a computer-savvy person charitably making their site into 'a known malicious site'. My security software blocks access for 41,616 threatening reasons:


[safeweb.norton.com]



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Re: "Jesus Christians," "Australian cult," Dave McKay
Posted by: Apollo ()
Date: May 06, 2011 03:41PM

The Takatifu Gardens site has been down for a few days now. It appeared to go down about the same time McKay started frantically distancing himself from ownership of the property, what a coincidence!

Oh David, what are you hiding....

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Re: "Jesus Christians," "Australian cult," Dave McKay
Posted by: Stoic ()
Date: May 06, 2011 03:55PM

Apparently the JC's were happy to represent themselves as Quakers to the casual volunteer at Takatifu---shades of the JC's who suddenly and conveniently identified themselves as Catholic Workers.

This volunteer states she had unfettered teaching access to 2,500 chidren in the space of 3 days, a lot of those children being orphaned or abandoned, so emotionally very vulnerable.
Take a look at her photos--is this the environment to allow an admitted child molester to work and have influence over such young and vulnerable lives?

[omdog.blogspot.com]

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Re: "Jesus Christians," "Australian cult," Dave McKay
Posted by: Apollo ()
Date: May 06, 2011 04:14PM

It is absolutely criminal, Stoic. There is no other way of putting it.

Here we have a man who has admitted to abusing two very young children because he wanted to ''make them feel good''. With this knowledge, Dave then sends this man to work alongside extremely vulnerable children in Africa. It's like India repeating itself all over again.

It seems if you are a child molester in the JCs all you have to do is confess and then the slate is wiped clean. The Jesus Christians cult is a paedophile's dream!

Nobody is saying these child molesters must be hung, drawn and quartered but who in their right mind would allow them to work alongside vulnerable children?

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Re: "Jesus Christians," "Australian cult," Dave McKay
Posted by: Stoic ()
Date: May 06, 2011 04:16PM

[kenyanpeacework.blogspot.com]

'Takatifu Gardens: "Takatifu" means "holy." This is a group of four Australians who are semi-Quakers. They somehow got connected with Central Yearly Meeting (that is here in Kenya, not the one in the US). About two years ago, they started building a small place in a town, Shinyalu, about 10 miles from Kakamega. It is very nicely constructed. Before the violence their place (which can sleep 24 with six to a room) was used for volunteers from overseas and from Kenya itself. Their program was a lending library of mostly Christian books to the children in the schools in the area.'

Targeting the children.

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