Re: "Jesus Christians," "Australian cult," Dave McKay
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rrmoderator
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Date: April 16, 2010 10:02PM
Please stop the the back and forth off topic argument here.
Anyone who wishes to remain anonymous can remain anonymous.
Please don't make that an issue.
Time to move on.
Anyone who wishes to remain anonymous can remain anonymous.
Please don't make that an issue.
Time to move on.
Re: "Jesus Christians," "Australian cult," Dave McKay
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zeuszor
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Date: April 17, 2010 06:59AM
Fantastic! Let's move on.
Here's something interesting and pertinent that I recently found:
[bigpondnews.com]
Moves to combat 'transplant tourism', in which patients from rich countries pay large sums to have organ transplants in poor ones, are gaining pace, experts told an international conference.
The World Health Organisation and the European Union have led the way in tackling the problem, the Madrid conference on organ donations and transplants heard this week.
'Stopping the illegal trafficking of organs and ending transplant tourism is an objective shared by all countries,' Spanish Health Minister Trinidad Jimenez said.
'The European Union has a harmonised model in which no one puts a price on an organ, and the WHO is making a great effort to spread this model,' she added.
Rafael Matesanz, the head of the Spain's national transplant organisation, said efforts to curb transplant tourism 'began in 2005 with the very decisive action of the World Health Organisation and the international Transplantation Society to establish laws in the countries where it does not exist.'
Dr Luc Noel, a coordinator of the WTO on the subject, said a 'common front' was now emerging in the battle against the practice.
He noted that laws against the trafficking of organs had been adopted in five countries considered among the worst offenders: China, the Philippines, Pakistan, Egypt and Colombia.
In all these countries, many poor people sell their livers or kidneys to patients in rich countries in need of them.
Noel said that although organ transplant tourism continued in China, legislation passed there in 2007 had already led to the arrest of a gang of traffickers.
China's deputy health minister Dr Huang Jiefu attended the Madrid conference to emphasise his country's efforts in this regard.
'Since the beginning of this century, organ transplantation has become a booming health industry' in a country where 'over 90 per cent of the organs still come from executed prisoners', he said.
'The trading of human organs emerged in China in an under-regulated environment, forming a tremendous profit chain that is against the principles of equality and the goal of building harmonious society in China.'
The Spanish newspaper El Pais recently reported the case of a Spaniard, Oscar Garay, who paid E135,000 ($A198,000) to receive a new liver in a hospital in the Chinese city of Tianjin in 2008.
Huang Jiefu admitted that since the 2007 law, 'we still have some hospitals trading with illegal organ agencies and ... selling organs to foreigners for profit'.
But he noted that seven hospitals had had their licences withdrawn for carrying out transplants.
The head of the Transplantation Society, Professor Jeremy Chapman, said 'China is working very hard to stop the trade' in organs.
But he said such work must go hand in hand with efforts in the countries of origin of the 'tourists'.
'To stop the trade you must stop the need. There are some very successful examples where patients used to leave the country and now they hardly do it at all. I would pick Saudi Arabia as a success story,' he said.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/17/2010 07:00AM by zeuszor.
Here's something interesting and pertinent that I recently found:
[bigpondnews.com]
Moves to combat 'transplant tourism', in which patients from rich countries pay large sums to have organ transplants in poor ones, are gaining pace, experts told an international conference.
The World Health Organisation and the European Union have led the way in tackling the problem, the Madrid conference on organ donations and transplants heard this week.
'Stopping the illegal trafficking of organs and ending transplant tourism is an objective shared by all countries,' Spanish Health Minister Trinidad Jimenez said.
'The European Union has a harmonised model in which no one puts a price on an organ, and the WHO is making a great effort to spread this model,' she added.
Rafael Matesanz, the head of the Spain's national transplant organisation, said efforts to curb transplant tourism 'began in 2005 with the very decisive action of the World Health Organisation and the international Transplantation Society to establish laws in the countries where it does not exist.'
Dr Luc Noel, a coordinator of the WTO on the subject, said a 'common front' was now emerging in the battle against the practice.
He noted that laws against the trafficking of organs had been adopted in five countries considered among the worst offenders: China, the Philippines, Pakistan, Egypt and Colombia.
In all these countries, many poor people sell their livers or kidneys to patients in rich countries in need of them.
Noel said that although organ transplant tourism continued in China, legislation passed there in 2007 had already led to the arrest of a gang of traffickers.
China's deputy health minister Dr Huang Jiefu attended the Madrid conference to emphasise his country's efforts in this regard.
'Since the beginning of this century, organ transplantation has become a booming health industry' in a country where 'over 90 per cent of the organs still come from executed prisoners', he said.
'The trading of human organs emerged in China in an under-regulated environment, forming a tremendous profit chain that is against the principles of equality and the goal of building harmonious society in China.'
The Spanish newspaper El Pais recently reported the case of a Spaniard, Oscar Garay, who paid E135,000 ($A198,000) to receive a new liver in a hospital in the Chinese city of Tianjin in 2008.
Huang Jiefu admitted that since the 2007 law, 'we still have some hospitals trading with illegal organ agencies and ... selling organs to foreigners for profit'.
But he noted that seven hospitals had had their licences withdrawn for carrying out transplants.
The head of the Transplantation Society, Professor Jeremy Chapman, said 'China is working very hard to stop the trade' in organs.
But he said such work must go hand in hand with efforts in the countries of origin of the 'tourists'.
'To stop the trade you must stop the need. There are some very successful examples where patients used to leave the country and now they hardly do it at all. I would pick Saudi Arabia as a success story,' he said.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/17/2010 07:00AM by zeuszor.
Re: "Jesus Christians," "Australian cult," Dave McKay
Posted by:
zeuszor
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Date: April 17, 2010 07:07AM
Quote
Malcolm Wesley WREST
Dear Zeuszor,
Is "Alf Montagu" our own little "Alf"?
I can't help but think that David is scraping the bottom of the barrel both literally and metaphorically here, in desperation. to keep himself "relevant"...
...Which "freegan" has ever taken up membership with the JC's?....it's the "wrong" demographic for a cult leader to be "pitching for".....(as there would not be the "committment" David needs to manipulate successfully for his own ends...).....David needs to pop along to the local Scientology center and have his "e-meter" recharged!!
"Alf MONTAGU is a member of David McKay's cult, the Jesus Christians.
Critics claim that the promotion of "dumpster diving" as "freeganism" is alleged to have helped the cult to legitimize its members eating from dumpsters, in order to maximize the cult's net income from its literature sales, i.e. it is alleged to reduce the cult's overhead. The cult allegedly seeks out fellow "freegans" as potential members, as it is thought that they would be predisposed to accepting the cult's lifestyle. The cult would deny this."
Re: "Jesus Christians," "Australian cult," Dave McKay
Posted by:
zeuszor
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Date: April 17, 2010 10:18PM
Re: "Jesus Christians," "Australian cult," Dave McKay
Posted by:
Malcolm Wesley WREST
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Date: April 18, 2010 08:44AM
Dear Zeusor,
The pattern is REALLY clear here.....David parasitically "inventing" himself off the work and the ideas of others....(trying in turn to emulate Billy Graham, David Berg, the writings of Timothy Lehaye, the reknown of the Quakers, the tactics of the Scientologists, the popularity of the Freegans"...to name but a FEW!.....he NEVER acts sincerely but is rather only looking for an "in" that predispose others to consider accepting the cults lifestyle (as you so well put it....)
The "Freegans" themselves would ultimately find themselves tossed aside
should David ever imagine that he has found a better "drawcard"....
everything Alf says about his commitment to the "ideals" of freeganism,
would prove to be so much bullshit,
were David to instruct him to redirect his focus to a new "cause"
The pattern is REALLY clear here.....David parasitically "inventing" himself off the work and the ideas of others....(trying in turn to emulate Billy Graham, David Berg, the writings of Timothy Lehaye, the reknown of the Quakers, the tactics of the Scientologists, the popularity of the Freegans"...to name but a FEW!.....he NEVER acts sincerely but is rather only looking for an "in" that predispose others to consider accepting the cults lifestyle (as you so well put it....)
The "Freegans" themselves would ultimately find themselves tossed aside
should David ever imagine that he has found a better "drawcard"....
everything Alf says about his commitment to the "ideals" of freeganism,
would prove to be so much bullshit,
were David to instruct him to redirect his focus to a new "cause"
Re: "Jesus Christians," "Australian cult," Dave McKay
Posted by:
zeuszor
()
Date: April 18, 2010 09:21AM
This thread is now at over 100,000 views!
A toast! Salut!
A toast! Salut!
Re: "Jesus Christians," "Australian cult," Dave McKay
Posted by:
Malcolm Wesley WREST
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Date: April 18, 2010 03:36PM
Dear Zeuszor,
Yes...congratulations to you and the others who have faithfully continued to post here, and keep McKay exposed as the fraud that he is!
I note from the JesusChristians website (all of a minute ago),
Since 2004, there have been
360,530
Unique visitors to this site.
Would you like to calculate from these, what a PHENOMENAL failure, McKay must be.....! He has a fraction of a fraction of a percent "enquiry rate" (i.e. people that even bother to look the slightest bit further, let alone "commit" to his cult) from the many hundreds of thousands of tracts, CD's and hours of internet time that he has distributed and broadcast promoting himself.....
...no doubt he attempts to explain this (the fact that the vast majority of people can see through him) away to those trapped in his cult as the "wiles" of Satan.....(the Devil fighting most strongly, those "closest" to the truth)....however in his heart of hearts, David would be uncomfortably aware of just what a LOSER he really is.....
Yes...congratulations to you and the others who have faithfully continued to post here, and keep McKay exposed as the fraud that he is!
I note from the JesusChristians website (all of a minute ago),
Since 2004, there have been
360,530
Unique visitors to this site.
Would you like to calculate from these, what a PHENOMENAL failure, McKay must be.....! He has a fraction of a fraction of a percent "enquiry rate" (i.e. people that even bother to look the slightest bit further, let alone "commit" to his cult) from the many hundreds of thousands of tracts, CD's and hours of internet time that he has distributed and broadcast promoting himself.....
...no doubt he attempts to explain this (the fact that the vast majority of people can see through him) away to those trapped in his cult as the "wiles" of Satan.....(the Devil fighting most strongly, those "closest" to the truth)....however in his heart of hearts, David would be uncomfortably aware of just what a LOSER he really is.....
Re: "Jesus Christians," "Australian cult," Dave McKay
Posted by:
Malcolm Wesley WREST
()
Date: April 18, 2010 10:05PM
Some highly recommended reading on the "Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity" thread where the consequences for one's own personality as one learns to successfully "assimilate" into a cult environment (in which one now psychologically "fends for survival")...have recently been discussed....
Very pertinent in my mind to what we can now see in so many of the current members of the JC's, who no doubt tell themselves that any adverse criticism of them is just "Satan at work", seeking to thwart them from realizing "God's will" .....they likely would not even be aware themselves of much they have changed since joining up.....their initial idealism slowly strangled off......
(posted by Foolish Fear)
Yes they are trapped in the illusion that they ARE doing Gods work!Absolutely
I have been very hesitant to post here for so many mind boggling reasons as you former Cbers would know.
For the past 3 days I have read all the threads,some of it shocked me,some of it helped me alot to know that my inner feelings are not wrong..I have so many feeelings right now that it is quit overwhelming!!!But of all of these there is mostly saddness,disappointment when you thought "Wow ive found the way and Ill never be disappointed again"Boy was I wrong.I have been living the cb life now for many years and just recently left,slowly and painfully leaving...Due to the knowing that I would loose my so called family and friends that were all ive known for so long.Also the Fear of them feeling I have betrayed them in some way.Well I am NOT the betraying one here.I have loved sincerely all of my friends from this group and considered you my family..How can we be family if I choose to live my life different and you choose to no longer like or love me??To me it is not loving or kind or pleasing to God to stop caring for someone just because there doing something different in life.Thats called conditions not unconditional love which is what REAl family has!!
I didnot leave because of any one particular reason but for many things that I consider contradictions to LOVE for GOD.But I did have an intense experience that pushed me forward.That was with myself.I recently made a comment to a friend and she said"Wo when did you become a bigot??"It was like a huge light came upon me and I started reflecting on my behavior and the changes I have made(good and bad)Of coarse I went thru the"you not surrendering to God,its all you,your Karma,blablabla.But that is not true.I finally realized that when your hearing constant negativity about certain people from someone that you consider a great teacher,you follow his example(mindlessly i might add)going against your own inner convictions and knowing.Well God gave me a brain to use so Im using it now!!!I am very flustered and I feel foolish for buying into this shit for so long...
Before CB i was a kind and generous and particularly a non judgmental person as I believed that is the way to please God.I didnt even realize what a jerk i was becoming and sounding just like him when i would talk to myfamily outside of the group.Wo.
(Comment 1)
A big part of the healing process for me after leaving the haribolers was coming to this forum, reading the posts, and posting myself.
It was a great relief to discover that it wasn't me, it was them, and the fact that they are a cult and much of what did not sit right with me about this group was due to their cult behaviour.
You say you have spent a lot of time reading through the posts here and that is good because there is so much relevant, insightful, and intelligent information.
I am very grateful to have extricated myself from the cult of CB and it is only when you get away from them that you begin to see things clearly. What a relief!!
My 2 cents: don't beat yourself up, view it as a learning experience, take whatever positive you can from your experience, and get on w/ your life.
But disassociate yourself from them. You will be grateful that you did.
(Comment 2)
Foolish Fear,
Great post, very honest. Every one of us have been where you stand now, the fresh hurt, the doubts. And I reckon everyone of us is greatly relieved that we finally obeyed our own integrity and started to think for ourselves. After 14 years I left in about 1986, about because it was kind of slow (sounds like you know all about that). I have managed to build a happy, loving life and many of the scars have healed. One thing I know beyond a shadow of a doubt is that whole mindset about offenses against the guru is just bullshit, I thought I would be blighted, I waited for the misery. The opposite happened, I have been very lucky and love life again instead of viewing most of humanity as depraved.
I will never forget the isolation of those first months. I thought I was the only one who thought and felt like me. Forums like this or Gaudiya Repercussions weren’t around then. My ‘welcome back to the human race’ moment was when I read George Orwell’s Animal Farm. I realized that while my particular story and cult experience were unique, the story of wonderful ideals gone wrong and corrupted leaders abusing others was a universal one.
Hang in there, there is nothing to fear!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/18/2010 10:16PM by Malcolm Wesley WREST.
Very pertinent in my mind to what we can now see in so many of the current members of the JC's, who no doubt tell themselves that any adverse criticism of them is just "Satan at work", seeking to thwart them from realizing "God's will" .....they likely would not even be aware themselves of much they have changed since joining up.....their initial idealism slowly strangled off......
(posted by Foolish Fear)
Yes they are trapped in the illusion that they ARE doing Gods work!Absolutely
I have been very hesitant to post here for so many mind boggling reasons as you former Cbers would know.
For the past 3 days I have read all the threads,some of it shocked me,some of it helped me alot to know that my inner feelings are not wrong..I have so many feeelings right now that it is quit overwhelming!!!But of all of these there is mostly saddness,disappointment when you thought "Wow ive found the way and Ill never be disappointed again"Boy was I wrong.I have been living the cb life now for many years and just recently left,slowly and painfully leaving...Due to the knowing that I would loose my so called family and friends that were all ive known for so long.Also the Fear of them feeling I have betrayed them in some way.Well I am NOT the betraying one here.I have loved sincerely all of my friends from this group and considered you my family..How can we be family if I choose to live my life different and you choose to no longer like or love me??To me it is not loving or kind or pleasing to God to stop caring for someone just because there doing something different in life.Thats called conditions not unconditional love which is what REAl family has!!
I didnot leave because of any one particular reason but for many things that I consider contradictions to LOVE for GOD.But I did have an intense experience that pushed me forward.That was with myself.I recently made a comment to a friend and she said"Wo when did you become a bigot??"It was like a huge light came upon me and I started reflecting on my behavior and the changes I have made(good and bad)Of coarse I went thru the"you not surrendering to God,its all you,your Karma,blablabla.But that is not true.I finally realized that when your hearing constant negativity about certain people from someone that you consider a great teacher,you follow his example(mindlessly i might add)going against your own inner convictions and knowing.Well God gave me a brain to use so Im using it now!!!I am very flustered and I feel foolish for buying into this shit for so long...
Before CB i was a kind and generous and particularly a non judgmental person as I believed that is the way to please God.I didnt even realize what a jerk i was becoming and sounding just like him when i would talk to myfamily outside of the group.Wo.
(Comment 1)
A big part of the healing process for me after leaving the haribolers was coming to this forum, reading the posts, and posting myself.
It was a great relief to discover that it wasn't me, it was them, and the fact that they are a cult and much of what did not sit right with me about this group was due to their cult behaviour.
You say you have spent a lot of time reading through the posts here and that is good because there is so much relevant, insightful, and intelligent information.
I am very grateful to have extricated myself from the cult of CB and it is only when you get away from them that you begin to see things clearly. What a relief!!
My 2 cents: don't beat yourself up, view it as a learning experience, take whatever positive you can from your experience, and get on w/ your life.
But disassociate yourself from them. You will be grateful that you did.
(Comment 2)
Foolish Fear,
Great post, very honest. Every one of us have been where you stand now, the fresh hurt, the doubts. And I reckon everyone of us is greatly relieved that we finally obeyed our own integrity and started to think for ourselves. After 14 years I left in about 1986, about because it was kind of slow (sounds like you know all about that). I have managed to build a happy, loving life and many of the scars have healed. One thing I know beyond a shadow of a doubt is that whole mindset about offenses against the guru is just bullshit, I thought I would be blighted, I waited for the misery. The opposite happened, I have been very lucky and love life again instead of viewing most of humanity as depraved.
I will never forget the isolation of those first months. I thought I was the only one who thought and felt like me. Forums like this or Gaudiya Repercussions weren’t around then. My ‘welcome back to the human race’ moment was when I read George Orwell’s Animal Farm. I realized that while my particular story and cult experience were unique, the story of wonderful ideals gone wrong and corrupted leaders abusing others was a universal one.
Hang in there, there is nothing to fear!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/18/2010 10:16PM by Malcolm Wesley WREST.
Re: "Jesus Christians," "Australian cult," Dave McKay
Posted by:
zeuszor
()
Date: April 19, 2010 08:55PM
THE GREEN PAPER PIG
By MO Berg
[www.deeptruths.com]
It was summer in the Mideast, and we were fleeing through this canyon or wadi where a stream flowed (I know now it was the Jordan River), towards some kind of sea or lake like the Dead Sea (which I know now it was) where we were to get on some boats to escape across to the other side. But then as a last resort, someone unleashed on us this big imaginary monster--a gigantic Green Pig--and he was huge, like a mechanical elephant or one of these mammoth monster-like parade balloons, and if you believed he existed he could destroy you! He was charging down the Jordan Valley, trampling on some people and devouring others, when I shouted at them: "He doesn't really exist! It's just in your mind! You must rebuke him and he'll go away!" So some of us turned as we were boarding the boats to leave, and just as he caught up with us I yelled again, "He doesn't exist! It's a matter of whether you believe it or not! It's only your faith in him that he exists that makes him real! Rebuke him in Jesus' name and he'll flee!"--And the minute we turned and faced him and challenged him and rebuked him in Jesus' name, he vanished just like that! (David snaps his fingers.) He was like the ultimate weapon, their last resort, to release this monstrous Green Pig!
And then the answer came just as clear as anything: He's the American dollar!--The ultimate weapon in the Mideast (and anywhere!) is the American dollar, and if you believe in it, it will destroy you! But if you know it doesn't really exist, it vanishes!
So the ultimate weapon is the "Greenback" Pig!--The American dollar, or American "greenback," as they call it! Somehow they're using it against the rest of the world.
We must tell the world that they must not fear the AMERICAN Dollar! The Green pig is only a monster of the imagination! It only exists if you believe in it. If you resist it in the name of God, it evaporates and is no more! So he's very wise to put his money in gold, because the dollar is going to evaporate when the people lose faith in it, and it will be gone! The green pig gobbles everybody up that believes in it, and tramples everybody in the mud that thinks it exists! But for those who know it's just a monster of imagination, it vanishes!--It's nothing! The Green Pig is the American dollar!
Someone is manipulating the Dollar and using it as a weapon--the Green Pig--to try to destroy their enemies. Someone is behind the monetary crisis and they are using it to their own advantage to somehow try to destroy their enemies.--And if you believe in it, it will destroy you, but if you refuse to believe that it even exists, it completely evaporates and vanishes! It has no power over you at all. It is a monster of imagination! It only terrifies those who believe that it exists. It is the moneymakers' monster, and the Green Pig is just a tool in their hands.
green_paper_pig (31K)
America itself is like a Green Pig, and the Green Pig is like America--huge and powerful and young and green and greedy, gluttonous, wasteful, selfish! But it only exists if you believe it exists, like its dollar, the "greenback," or the American dollar. It's like this Green Pig is the god of America, it is America's idol that they worship. It is not even as good as the golden calf, because it doesn't even exist! It is all in the imagination. But they worship it and they created it, and the moneymakers helped them to create it. But it is they that tell it which way to go. It is they who unleash it against their enemies, and it is they who control it, and they either harness it and support it, or they unleash it and send it charging against their enemies to devour them!
But if you have no faith in it, and you take no stock in it, you don't believe in it, you don't worship it, and you rebuke it in the name of God, it just vanishes and evaporates! It has no power at all over you unless you're one of its worshipers. The moneymakers are its high priests and its priesthood, and it was created in their temples and they control it and they manipulate it as they will to their own advantage against their enemies.
So you and all the world must beware of the Dollar! It is a moneymaker's creation--a Green Pig! It'll devour you and trample you to death in the mud and the mire if you believe in it and put your faith in it, if you trust in it! Because, whichever way it moves, it moves at their behest, at their direction, because they created it and they control it. But it only exists for those that believe in it. If you take no stock in it and have no faith in it and don't believe in it and you reject it, and if you refuse to accept it and you resist it because you know it doesn't exist, except according to men's faith in it and their imagination, if you challenge it in the name of God, it just goes pooof!
The american dollars are no longer green and growing, but they have turned to grey dead ashes and they only look green if you're deceived thereby, only if you think that grey is green when green has really turned to grey! The Green Pig will turn to ashes, dead grey cold ashes, when the fire of faith is gone, and it will be burnt out and destroyed when the fire of the faith of men in it is gone! When the flame of faith in it has burnt out, all the dollars will be turned to ashes and burnt up, turned to worthless ashes!
But it is an abomination to God--the Green Pig, the American dollar! It is a pollution!--It is pollution! It pollutes the whole world worse than any other pollution, because it pollutes the hearts and minds of men and captures their bodies and destroys their souls and devours them and gobbles them up--the Green Pig! It is a marvel and powerful and wondrous and mighty to those who believe in it!--But it is nothing, it is not even weak to those who know it doesn't even exist!
When a currency comes to its end and becomes worthless, as in Germany after World War I, only things of real value, material things of actual usefulness and necessities, become negotiable, and a system of bartering or trading of goods instead of money arises. When the currency dies, men return to the age-old system of trading physical and material necessities. So that people trade things they have and produce for things that they need, such as the farmers would trade the foodstuff they produced for the tools and manufactured items they needed, and the industrial communities or tradesmen who make things would trade them for the farmers' food and the goods that they need.
So that in Germany, just before Hitler, the Mark had become so worthless that the government was printing billion-Mark notes, which were still not worth much, and each city and town and area began printing its own currency, or spurious currency, in which each government tried to inspire the faith of the people as a medium of exchange, because it was a little difficult without it. If you wanted to go to the theater you had to take so many eggs or a hen for admission! It was not only difficult for the customers, but imagine the problems of the management in trying to find a place to store all these things! One story is told of the two women who went shopping with a whole laundry basket full of German Marks, to show you how worthless the Marks were!--And as if that wasn't bad enough, when they weren't looking, somebody dumped all the Marks out of the basket, left the Marks on the sidewalk, and ran off with the basket!
So when the Dollar, which has in effect been the world's international currency, comes to its end, what is going to be the medium of exchange? Gold has kept its value very well, and in fact, in relation to the dollar, it is now worth about four times as much as it was back in the thirties! In other words, the dollar is worth only about one-fourth of what it was 40 years ago! It's been dropping nearly 20 percent in value every ten years or about 2 percent a year!
But what is gold good for now in actual material necessities and how valuable is it today? For many ages gold has been much sought after as a useful, but particularly as a very decorative, metal, so it became an extremely precious metal sought by the rich for their tableware and their various metallic decorative materials, etc. But today it is not sought after so much for those old-fashioned luxuries, and is not even as much in demand for things like gold watches and jewelry. But it has become increasingly in demand as a vital part of the electronic systems of many of these new scientific gadgets!
This is one of the reasons why the price of gold has gone up, because it is still very much in demand and extremely necessary for the circuitry of electronic devices. God has always put considerable value on gold in the Scriptures, some on silver, but mostly on gold. But He does say that there will even come a day when gold and silver will be less valuable and as common as the rocks in the streets, which may be the Millennium or thereafter because of the loss of the need of all these gadgets and scientific contraptions, as well as the loss of the need of a monetary standard, or metals for mere decoration. Nevertheless, gold has kept its value over all these centuries and really better than anything else outside of actual real estate.
One reason for the real estate boom is that when people begin to lose faith in their money, currency and banking accounts, they begin exchanging their money for things of actual useful value. They can't help but see from history that the value of money is constantly going down, because these are no longer the secrets of the rich and high finance, but they are common knowledge of the general public and the man on the street. He knows that the value of his money is deteriorating every day through what is called inflation. As the prices go up, his wages never rise as fast as the prices since the owners, manipulators and managers of money are the ones who control both wages and prices. Therefore the rich always see to it that their prices rise faster than the wages of their wage slaves!
So the big and powerful labour unions now insist that to every new contract there be attached the proviso that their wages will automatically be raised according to the cost of living, which is known by the cost of living index.--Periodically the wages of the laborers of certain industries who have made these very wise contracts, will be raised by exactly the same percentage as the rise in the cost of living: Or in other words, according to the deflation of their money caused by the inflation in prices. So some labour has gotten pretty smart on this issue!
Nevertheless, labour never seems to be able to keep up with the cost of living no matter how hard they try. Because, if you're a manufacturing owner or manager or a money manipulator, it is much easier for you to manipulate your prices and money, most of which is simply done on paper, than it is for the poor lowly laborer to try to get a raise in his wages from the industrial managers and money manipulators who are in control of wealth and the sources of wealth and power and the sources of power and government and are usually much richer, more powerful, better educated and smarter than the poor average working man.
But lately, even the money manipulators have been letting things get a little out of hand and out of their control, and they haven't seemed to quite understand why their money matters are getting in such a bad way because of the sudden fall of their god the dollar upon which they base their values and currencies and their rates of exchange even from one currency to another in foreign countries throughout the world. When you go to a bank to exchange one foreign currency for another, you will usually find that on the little exchange slip or receipt they give you as a record of the transaction, first is listed the amount and the kind of currency which you gave them, then its value in dollars, believe it or not, and then finally its value in the local currency for which you are exchanging it!
So the god Dollar--the GREEN Pig--has been the world-wide standard of value and of monetary exchange since most of the world went off the gold standard, and, subsequently, the silver standard! In other words, the U.S. got so strong and so smart and rich and powerful that even after it was no longer willing to give you either gold or silver in exchange for your paper dollars, the value and power of that paper dollar held its value and power of exchange in the minds of the people by their faith in the American government and its people and its power! So that the dollar held its own for a long time after its actual value in gold or silver was gone!
It has taken the world 40 years and a loss of confidence in America and its government to finally wake the world to the fact that the dollar is actually worth very little, if anything, and it is only worth to them as much as their faith says it is worth! And since they've lost faith in the American government, they are no longer willing to believe what it is worth, what America says it is worth. The dollar has been coasting along on its own momentum for several decades due to the power and wealth of America and the world's faith in the American government and its word that the dollar was worth something. But now that the world is beginning to awaken to the fact that it was only by faith that the dollar was worth anything, they've lost that faith in America and its word, and the dollar has lost its value.
Money loses its believed actual or supposed intrinsic value and its professed and recognized value as a medium of exchange at its former rate of exchange in almost exact proportion to the people's loss of faith in it! In other words, paper money is only worth what people believe it is worth! They have to have faith in it, believe in it and be willing to accept it as a valuable and negotiable medium of exchange. Otherwise, when they lose faith in the money, it immediately loses its value and becomes worthless! If the people believe it is worth nothing, it becomes worth nothing! Because paper money and currency to begin with are created by governments, the powers that be, to furnish the people with a convenient form of trading values or as a medium of exchange, instead of actually having to exchange products, goods or services.
So that money is merely a medium of simplified exchange of goods between producers and consumers. Though the paper currency has no actual value in itself any more than the paper it is printed on, it has value according to what the people are willing to believe it is worth in this form of monetary exchange which the various governments of the world have built up, particularly in modern times. In ancient times, the medium of exchange was almost always precious metals such as gold, silver, nickel, brass or copper, etc., mined and minted into coins by the various governments, with the imprint of those governments and their rulers and the designation of the coin's value according to what the government said it was worth.
As a government became more and more decadent and corrupt and dishonest, its money became more dishonest, until the people found that the coins were no longer being made of pure gold and silver but filled with other less valuable metals: The gold coins became more brass and copper than gold, and the silver coins became more nickel, zinc or lead, etc. In recent history America was even making pennies out of aluminum when copper was scarce.--And of course paper coinage is quite a modern invention in fairly recent history, which came in with the invention of paper and printing press.
So that paper money is a fairly new thing in world history, which our clever capitalistic governments quickly latched on to as a much more convenient means of exchange than actual metal coins, and a far easier and cheaper way to manufacture worthless money and cheat the people! The people were then persuaded to accept these paper bills, or dollars, or pounds, or marks or what have you, because they were far more convenient to carry around, of course, than lugging around bags of gold or silver or copper coins! As long as the people were told by the government that the government would be ready and willing to exchange the paper thing for the real thing at any time they desired to do so, or, in other words, the paper currency for its printed designated worth in actual gold or silver coinage, real value, the people were persuaded to accept this paper substitute for the actually valuable metal coins.
But of course, this also made it very convenient for governments to manipulate or change the value of their exchange to their own advantage, which usually means the advantage of the rich and the powerful. As modern governments also became more corrupt, decadent and deceitful, they too began to pollute their paper money and actually devalue it by being no longer willing to exchange it for either gold or silver, or anything else of actual value for that matter.
As the world began to wake up to what is going on, the Dollar began going down! It had continued to coast on for quite a while on its original monetary value momentum implanted in the minds of men by memory. But those memories are beginning to fade, and the minds are beginning to wake up, and the men are beginning to lose faith in the once almighty dollar, the god of America and the world! For a long time it continued to coast along, not only because it was considered worth what the Americans said it was worth, but because other governments of the world were also willing to support it with their word, saying that it was worth so much to them also in their own currencies. But now other governments too are losing faith in America and America's money because they're losing faith in Americans and American administrations, so that other governments of the world are no longer willing to support the dollar and say it is worth so much in their money and give you as much of their money in exchange for it as they used to.
So as world faith in the Dollar wanes, so wanes the Dollar, and it is sinking lower and lower day by day!--Since its actual paper value is really worth nothing, and it is actually only worth what Americans or others are willing to give you for it in the way of actual material goods. But if the Americans themselves should lose faith in their dollar, as they shall, then they will no longer be willing to exchange valuable goods and services for worthless paper dollars, either between each other or other members of the world community!
If you think that past generations and cultures were foolish for worshiping gods of gold and silver and wood and stone, give a second thought to modern man who has been worshiping gods made only of paper, and very thin paper at that, for a good many years now! But he's now beginning to lose faith in his paper gods, these worthless currencies, and they're beginning to fall! They'll soon be worth so little they'll be cast away as worthless, and only things, services, goods, products and materials of actual value and usefulness will be considered of any worth: The things and materials or products which the consumers of the world either need or want or are willing to pay for in other needed and wanted goods of actual value and use and worth and not merely spots of ink on pieces of paper!
But what is going to take its place? (The Amero!) --What will replace this Green Paper Pig which has so long been the recent world's means of monetary exchange, and upon which their own currency systems have been based? Right now certain currencies are going up while the dollar is going down in relation to those currencies. But what if these other governments also betray their people and the world by refusing to redeem their paper money in so-called hard currency or valuable silver and gold, the price of which is going up daily and is now four times what it was 40 years ago! What will the people of the world do then?
They will not only dump the Dollar, but they will also dump their own Paper Pigs as well, and their governments with them, as they lose faith in both the paper words and the paper-tiger governments which speak them! The peoples of the world will then have to turn to some other gods and governments in which to put their faith, and the only acceptable values will be actual material things, goods and services. At such a time, the valuable salts, minerals, phosphates, bromides and other chemicals of the Dead Sea, where the Green Paper Pig was finally challenged and vanished in the heart of the explosive Mideast--those chemicals of the Dead Sea alone will be worth more than all the money in all the banks in all the world! They are extremely useful and valuable for making many useful and needed things such as fertilizers, gasoline, medicine, etc., as well as dangerous things such as explosives!
The powers that be which can control the valuable, needed and wanted materials of the world such as these and the oil of the Arab world and foods and necessities--such governments will wield the powers of the world, not in worthless Green Paper Pig money, but in actual raw materials, foodstuffs, etc., Those governments which can control the actual goods, and can deliver the goods, are going to get the government of the world! The time will come when money is no longer used as a medium of exchange, and the power of the Green Paper Pig will vanish, and the people of the world will be ruled by a one-world government who will control them by the material power it wields and its control of goods and services, actual material values, and not a Green paper-tiger Pig! The Arabs will have their oil, the Jews the Dead Sea, and the Americans a dead Green Paper Pig!
The apportionment control and sharing of these necessary and wanted goods and services will be managed no longer by the Green Paper Pig and those who monkey with our money! The money medium of exchange will be replaced by a very remarkable credit system in which every person in the world who belongs to the system will bare a credit number, without which he can neither buy nor sell, and by which he is accredited in his governmental account with the value of whatever goods or services he produces, and to which he can charge the goods and services that he himself needs.
So he will no longer buy nor sell with money as a means of exchange, but with a number, a number which will be given him permanently, without any possibility of counterfeit, change, or manipulation nor forgery, because it will be branded on each person: "a mark in their right hand or in their foreheads, that no man might buy or sell save he that had the mark or the name of the Beast (the world leader and his government) or the number of his name ... for it is the number of a man!"--And every man will have his own number, every member of the world System will be branded or tattooed with the mark of this final bestial anti-God world government.--They will no longer fear the Green Paper Pigs of past paper tigers and their owners, but they will have a new god and be branded by the Beast like cattle for the slaughter, and will be forced to worship the Beast and his image or be killed!
So says the Word of God in the Bible in the thirteenth chapter of the book of Revelation, as well as in many other descriptions of this final world government in the Book! Those who refuse to worship the Beast or accept his mark or number will be neither able to buy nor to sell, so we who worship God will starve, suffer, be persecuted, and even slain! But our faith in God will save us, and after three-and-a-half years of this awful time of the Great Tribulation under the Beast's new economic and religious system, Christ will come and rescue us and destroy the Antichrist government of the world and set up His own Kingdom here on Earth, where the real values will no longer be temporal, but eternal ones: Truth, love, joy and peace, in a world without money and without marks, and without the bestial governments, wars, cruelty and lies of man, but with truth and love and peace and plenty for all! Farewell to all you paper tigers--and especially that ridiculous Green Paper Pig! Instead, we will ride the pure white horses of the power and plenty of the Kingdom of God!
Meanwhile, beware of the Green Paper Pig!
--What god do you worship?
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By MO Berg
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It was summer in the Mideast, and we were fleeing through this canyon or wadi where a stream flowed (I know now it was the Jordan River), towards some kind of sea or lake like the Dead Sea (which I know now it was) where we were to get on some boats to escape across to the other side. But then as a last resort, someone unleashed on us this big imaginary monster--a gigantic Green Pig--and he was huge, like a mechanical elephant or one of these mammoth monster-like parade balloons, and if you believed he existed he could destroy you! He was charging down the Jordan Valley, trampling on some people and devouring others, when I shouted at them: "He doesn't really exist! It's just in your mind! You must rebuke him and he'll go away!" So some of us turned as we were boarding the boats to leave, and just as he caught up with us I yelled again, "He doesn't exist! It's a matter of whether you believe it or not! It's only your faith in him that he exists that makes him real! Rebuke him in Jesus' name and he'll flee!"--And the minute we turned and faced him and challenged him and rebuked him in Jesus' name, he vanished just like that! (David snaps his fingers.) He was like the ultimate weapon, their last resort, to release this monstrous Green Pig!
And then the answer came just as clear as anything: He's the American dollar!--The ultimate weapon in the Mideast (and anywhere!) is the American dollar, and if you believe in it, it will destroy you! But if you know it doesn't really exist, it vanishes!
So the ultimate weapon is the "Greenback" Pig!--The American dollar, or American "greenback," as they call it! Somehow they're using it against the rest of the world.
We must tell the world that they must not fear the AMERICAN Dollar! The Green pig is only a monster of the imagination! It only exists if you believe in it. If you resist it in the name of God, it evaporates and is no more! So he's very wise to put his money in gold, because the dollar is going to evaporate when the people lose faith in it, and it will be gone! The green pig gobbles everybody up that believes in it, and tramples everybody in the mud that thinks it exists! But for those who know it's just a monster of imagination, it vanishes!--It's nothing! The Green Pig is the American dollar!
Someone is manipulating the Dollar and using it as a weapon--the Green Pig--to try to destroy their enemies. Someone is behind the monetary crisis and they are using it to their own advantage to somehow try to destroy their enemies.--And if you believe in it, it will destroy you, but if you refuse to believe that it even exists, it completely evaporates and vanishes! It has no power over you at all. It is a monster of imagination! It only terrifies those who believe that it exists. It is the moneymakers' monster, and the Green Pig is just a tool in their hands.
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America itself is like a Green Pig, and the Green Pig is like America--huge and powerful and young and green and greedy, gluttonous, wasteful, selfish! But it only exists if you believe it exists, like its dollar, the "greenback," or the American dollar. It's like this Green Pig is the god of America, it is America's idol that they worship. It is not even as good as the golden calf, because it doesn't even exist! It is all in the imagination. But they worship it and they created it, and the moneymakers helped them to create it. But it is they that tell it which way to go. It is they who unleash it against their enemies, and it is they who control it, and they either harness it and support it, or they unleash it and send it charging against their enemies to devour them!
But if you have no faith in it, and you take no stock in it, you don't believe in it, you don't worship it, and you rebuke it in the name of God, it just vanishes and evaporates! It has no power at all over you unless you're one of its worshipers. The moneymakers are its high priests and its priesthood, and it was created in their temples and they control it and they manipulate it as they will to their own advantage against their enemies.
So you and all the world must beware of the Dollar! It is a moneymaker's creation--a Green Pig! It'll devour you and trample you to death in the mud and the mire if you believe in it and put your faith in it, if you trust in it! Because, whichever way it moves, it moves at their behest, at their direction, because they created it and they control it. But it only exists for those that believe in it. If you take no stock in it and have no faith in it and don't believe in it and you reject it, and if you refuse to accept it and you resist it because you know it doesn't exist, except according to men's faith in it and their imagination, if you challenge it in the name of God, it just goes pooof!
The american dollars are no longer green and growing, but they have turned to grey dead ashes and they only look green if you're deceived thereby, only if you think that grey is green when green has really turned to grey! The Green Pig will turn to ashes, dead grey cold ashes, when the fire of faith is gone, and it will be burnt out and destroyed when the fire of the faith of men in it is gone! When the flame of faith in it has burnt out, all the dollars will be turned to ashes and burnt up, turned to worthless ashes!
But it is an abomination to God--the Green Pig, the American dollar! It is a pollution!--It is pollution! It pollutes the whole world worse than any other pollution, because it pollutes the hearts and minds of men and captures their bodies and destroys their souls and devours them and gobbles them up--the Green Pig! It is a marvel and powerful and wondrous and mighty to those who believe in it!--But it is nothing, it is not even weak to those who know it doesn't even exist!
When a currency comes to its end and becomes worthless, as in Germany after World War I, only things of real value, material things of actual usefulness and necessities, become negotiable, and a system of bartering or trading of goods instead of money arises. When the currency dies, men return to the age-old system of trading physical and material necessities. So that people trade things they have and produce for things that they need, such as the farmers would trade the foodstuff they produced for the tools and manufactured items they needed, and the industrial communities or tradesmen who make things would trade them for the farmers' food and the goods that they need.
So that in Germany, just before Hitler, the Mark had become so worthless that the government was printing billion-Mark notes, which were still not worth much, and each city and town and area began printing its own currency, or spurious currency, in which each government tried to inspire the faith of the people as a medium of exchange, because it was a little difficult without it. If you wanted to go to the theater you had to take so many eggs or a hen for admission! It was not only difficult for the customers, but imagine the problems of the management in trying to find a place to store all these things! One story is told of the two women who went shopping with a whole laundry basket full of German Marks, to show you how worthless the Marks were!--And as if that wasn't bad enough, when they weren't looking, somebody dumped all the Marks out of the basket, left the Marks on the sidewalk, and ran off with the basket!
So when the Dollar, which has in effect been the world's international currency, comes to its end, what is going to be the medium of exchange? Gold has kept its value very well, and in fact, in relation to the dollar, it is now worth about four times as much as it was back in the thirties! In other words, the dollar is worth only about one-fourth of what it was 40 years ago! It's been dropping nearly 20 percent in value every ten years or about 2 percent a year!
But what is gold good for now in actual material necessities and how valuable is it today? For many ages gold has been much sought after as a useful, but particularly as a very decorative, metal, so it became an extremely precious metal sought by the rich for their tableware and their various metallic decorative materials, etc. But today it is not sought after so much for those old-fashioned luxuries, and is not even as much in demand for things like gold watches and jewelry. But it has become increasingly in demand as a vital part of the electronic systems of many of these new scientific gadgets!
This is one of the reasons why the price of gold has gone up, because it is still very much in demand and extremely necessary for the circuitry of electronic devices. God has always put considerable value on gold in the Scriptures, some on silver, but mostly on gold. But He does say that there will even come a day when gold and silver will be less valuable and as common as the rocks in the streets, which may be the Millennium or thereafter because of the loss of the need of all these gadgets and scientific contraptions, as well as the loss of the need of a monetary standard, or metals for mere decoration. Nevertheless, gold has kept its value over all these centuries and really better than anything else outside of actual real estate.
One reason for the real estate boom is that when people begin to lose faith in their money, currency and banking accounts, they begin exchanging their money for things of actual useful value. They can't help but see from history that the value of money is constantly going down, because these are no longer the secrets of the rich and high finance, but they are common knowledge of the general public and the man on the street. He knows that the value of his money is deteriorating every day through what is called inflation. As the prices go up, his wages never rise as fast as the prices since the owners, manipulators and managers of money are the ones who control both wages and prices. Therefore the rich always see to it that their prices rise faster than the wages of their wage slaves!
So the big and powerful labour unions now insist that to every new contract there be attached the proviso that their wages will automatically be raised according to the cost of living, which is known by the cost of living index.--Periodically the wages of the laborers of certain industries who have made these very wise contracts, will be raised by exactly the same percentage as the rise in the cost of living: Or in other words, according to the deflation of their money caused by the inflation in prices. So some labour has gotten pretty smart on this issue!
Nevertheless, labour never seems to be able to keep up with the cost of living no matter how hard they try. Because, if you're a manufacturing owner or manager or a money manipulator, it is much easier for you to manipulate your prices and money, most of which is simply done on paper, than it is for the poor lowly laborer to try to get a raise in his wages from the industrial managers and money manipulators who are in control of wealth and the sources of wealth and power and the sources of power and government and are usually much richer, more powerful, better educated and smarter than the poor average working man.
But lately, even the money manipulators have been letting things get a little out of hand and out of their control, and they haven't seemed to quite understand why their money matters are getting in such a bad way because of the sudden fall of their god the dollar upon which they base their values and currencies and their rates of exchange even from one currency to another in foreign countries throughout the world. When you go to a bank to exchange one foreign currency for another, you will usually find that on the little exchange slip or receipt they give you as a record of the transaction, first is listed the amount and the kind of currency which you gave them, then its value in dollars, believe it or not, and then finally its value in the local currency for which you are exchanging it!
So the god Dollar--the GREEN Pig--has been the world-wide standard of value and of monetary exchange since most of the world went off the gold standard, and, subsequently, the silver standard! In other words, the U.S. got so strong and so smart and rich and powerful that even after it was no longer willing to give you either gold or silver in exchange for your paper dollars, the value and power of that paper dollar held its value and power of exchange in the minds of the people by their faith in the American government and its people and its power! So that the dollar held its own for a long time after its actual value in gold or silver was gone!
It has taken the world 40 years and a loss of confidence in America and its government to finally wake the world to the fact that the dollar is actually worth very little, if anything, and it is only worth to them as much as their faith says it is worth! And since they've lost faith in the American government, they are no longer willing to believe what it is worth, what America says it is worth. The dollar has been coasting along on its own momentum for several decades due to the power and wealth of America and the world's faith in the American government and its word that the dollar was worth something. But now that the world is beginning to awaken to the fact that it was only by faith that the dollar was worth anything, they've lost that faith in America and its word, and the dollar has lost its value.
Money loses its believed actual or supposed intrinsic value and its professed and recognized value as a medium of exchange at its former rate of exchange in almost exact proportion to the people's loss of faith in it! In other words, paper money is only worth what people believe it is worth! They have to have faith in it, believe in it and be willing to accept it as a valuable and negotiable medium of exchange. Otherwise, when they lose faith in the money, it immediately loses its value and becomes worthless! If the people believe it is worth nothing, it becomes worth nothing! Because paper money and currency to begin with are created by governments, the powers that be, to furnish the people with a convenient form of trading values or as a medium of exchange, instead of actually having to exchange products, goods or services.
So that money is merely a medium of simplified exchange of goods between producers and consumers. Though the paper currency has no actual value in itself any more than the paper it is printed on, it has value according to what the people are willing to believe it is worth in this form of monetary exchange which the various governments of the world have built up, particularly in modern times. In ancient times, the medium of exchange was almost always precious metals such as gold, silver, nickel, brass or copper, etc., mined and minted into coins by the various governments, with the imprint of those governments and their rulers and the designation of the coin's value according to what the government said it was worth.
As a government became more and more decadent and corrupt and dishonest, its money became more dishonest, until the people found that the coins were no longer being made of pure gold and silver but filled with other less valuable metals: The gold coins became more brass and copper than gold, and the silver coins became more nickel, zinc or lead, etc. In recent history America was even making pennies out of aluminum when copper was scarce.--And of course paper coinage is quite a modern invention in fairly recent history, which came in with the invention of paper and printing press.
So that paper money is a fairly new thing in world history, which our clever capitalistic governments quickly latched on to as a much more convenient means of exchange than actual metal coins, and a far easier and cheaper way to manufacture worthless money and cheat the people! The people were then persuaded to accept these paper bills, or dollars, or pounds, or marks or what have you, because they were far more convenient to carry around, of course, than lugging around bags of gold or silver or copper coins! As long as the people were told by the government that the government would be ready and willing to exchange the paper thing for the real thing at any time they desired to do so, or, in other words, the paper currency for its printed designated worth in actual gold or silver coinage, real value, the people were persuaded to accept this paper substitute for the actually valuable metal coins.
But of course, this also made it very convenient for governments to manipulate or change the value of their exchange to their own advantage, which usually means the advantage of the rich and the powerful. As modern governments also became more corrupt, decadent and deceitful, they too began to pollute their paper money and actually devalue it by being no longer willing to exchange it for either gold or silver, or anything else of actual value for that matter.
As the world began to wake up to what is going on, the Dollar began going down! It had continued to coast on for quite a while on its original monetary value momentum implanted in the minds of men by memory. But those memories are beginning to fade, and the minds are beginning to wake up, and the men are beginning to lose faith in the once almighty dollar, the god of America and the world! For a long time it continued to coast along, not only because it was considered worth what the Americans said it was worth, but because other governments of the world were also willing to support it with their word, saying that it was worth so much to them also in their own currencies. But now other governments too are losing faith in America and America's money because they're losing faith in Americans and American administrations, so that other governments of the world are no longer willing to support the dollar and say it is worth so much in their money and give you as much of their money in exchange for it as they used to.
So as world faith in the Dollar wanes, so wanes the Dollar, and it is sinking lower and lower day by day!--Since its actual paper value is really worth nothing, and it is actually only worth what Americans or others are willing to give you for it in the way of actual material goods. But if the Americans themselves should lose faith in their dollar, as they shall, then they will no longer be willing to exchange valuable goods and services for worthless paper dollars, either between each other or other members of the world community!
If you think that past generations and cultures were foolish for worshiping gods of gold and silver and wood and stone, give a second thought to modern man who has been worshiping gods made only of paper, and very thin paper at that, for a good many years now! But he's now beginning to lose faith in his paper gods, these worthless currencies, and they're beginning to fall! They'll soon be worth so little they'll be cast away as worthless, and only things, services, goods, products and materials of actual value and usefulness will be considered of any worth: The things and materials or products which the consumers of the world either need or want or are willing to pay for in other needed and wanted goods of actual value and use and worth and not merely spots of ink on pieces of paper!
But what is going to take its place? (The Amero!) --What will replace this Green Paper Pig which has so long been the recent world's means of monetary exchange, and upon which their own currency systems have been based? Right now certain currencies are going up while the dollar is going down in relation to those currencies. But what if these other governments also betray their people and the world by refusing to redeem their paper money in so-called hard currency or valuable silver and gold, the price of which is going up daily and is now four times what it was 40 years ago! What will the people of the world do then?
They will not only dump the Dollar, but they will also dump their own Paper Pigs as well, and their governments with them, as they lose faith in both the paper words and the paper-tiger governments which speak them! The peoples of the world will then have to turn to some other gods and governments in which to put their faith, and the only acceptable values will be actual material things, goods and services. At such a time, the valuable salts, minerals, phosphates, bromides and other chemicals of the Dead Sea, where the Green Paper Pig was finally challenged and vanished in the heart of the explosive Mideast--those chemicals of the Dead Sea alone will be worth more than all the money in all the banks in all the world! They are extremely useful and valuable for making many useful and needed things such as fertilizers, gasoline, medicine, etc., as well as dangerous things such as explosives!
The powers that be which can control the valuable, needed and wanted materials of the world such as these and the oil of the Arab world and foods and necessities--such governments will wield the powers of the world, not in worthless Green Paper Pig money, but in actual raw materials, foodstuffs, etc., Those governments which can control the actual goods, and can deliver the goods, are going to get the government of the world! The time will come when money is no longer used as a medium of exchange, and the power of the Green Paper Pig will vanish, and the people of the world will be ruled by a one-world government who will control them by the material power it wields and its control of goods and services, actual material values, and not a Green paper-tiger Pig! The Arabs will have their oil, the Jews the Dead Sea, and the Americans a dead Green Paper Pig!
The apportionment control and sharing of these necessary and wanted goods and services will be managed no longer by the Green Paper Pig and those who monkey with our money! The money medium of exchange will be replaced by a very remarkable credit system in which every person in the world who belongs to the system will bare a credit number, without which he can neither buy nor sell, and by which he is accredited in his governmental account with the value of whatever goods or services he produces, and to which he can charge the goods and services that he himself needs.
So he will no longer buy nor sell with money as a means of exchange, but with a number, a number which will be given him permanently, without any possibility of counterfeit, change, or manipulation nor forgery, because it will be branded on each person: "a mark in their right hand or in their foreheads, that no man might buy or sell save he that had the mark or the name of the Beast (the world leader and his government) or the number of his name ... for it is the number of a man!"--And every man will have his own number, every member of the world System will be branded or tattooed with the mark of this final bestial anti-God world government.--They will no longer fear the Green Paper Pigs of past paper tigers and their owners, but they will have a new god and be branded by the Beast like cattle for the slaughter, and will be forced to worship the Beast and his image or be killed!
So says the Word of God in the Bible in the thirteenth chapter of the book of Revelation, as well as in many other descriptions of this final world government in the Book! Those who refuse to worship the Beast or accept his mark or number will be neither able to buy nor to sell, so we who worship God will starve, suffer, be persecuted, and even slain! But our faith in God will save us, and after three-and-a-half years of this awful time of the Great Tribulation under the Beast's new economic and religious system, Christ will come and rescue us and destroy the Antichrist government of the world and set up His own Kingdom here on Earth, where the real values will no longer be temporal, but eternal ones: Truth, love, joy and peace, in a world without money and without marks, and without the bestial governments, wars, cruelty and lies of man, but with truth and love and peace and plenty for all! Farewell to all you paper tigers--and especially that ridiculous Green Paper Pig! Instead, we will ride the pure white horses of the power and plenty of the Kingdom of God!
Meanwhile, beware of the Green Paper Pig!
--What god do you worship?
(Sound like somebody we know?)
Compare to:
[www.jesus-teachings.com]
[www.jesus-teachings.com]
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/19/2010 08:57PM by zeuszor.
Re: "Jesus Christians," "Australian cult," Dave McKay
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Date: April 19, 2010 10:28PM
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My hope is that anyone who wants to leave has some support system already so they are no penniless and well....frightened of where they are going to sleep that night and when they will eat next. I wonder if there are support groups.....(does Rick Ross have anything set up?)......that have a fund established for people who want to leave cults and start over? If Rick Ross doesn't actually help people...then what is it all about? Just talk? I'm curious about that as I would like to help support someone to leave so they don't feel completely alone and without a dollar..............
[www.culteducation.com]
[www.culteducation.com]
Wellspring Retreat is pretty much closed now after the death of Paul Martin.
Meadow Haven is now the only exit counseling center/program of its kind in the whole world, and for over ten years has been the stepping-stone to recovery for survivors of abusive groups.
Bob and Judy Pardon are wonderful, exceptional people and are absolute experts and professionals.
RR does not endorse MeadowHaven, but zeuszor does.
[www.meadowhaven.org]
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/19/2010 10:37PM by zeuszor.
My hope is that anyone who wants to leave has some support system already so they are no penniless and well....frightened of where they are going to sleep that night and when they will eat next. I wonder if there are support groups.....(does Rick Ross have anything set up?)......that have a fund established for people who want to leave cults and start over? If Rick Ross doesn't actually help people...then what is it all about? Just talk? I'm curious about that as I would like to help support someone to leave so they don't feel completely alone and without a dollar..............
[www.culteducation.com]
[www.culteducation.com]
Wellspring Retreat is pretty much closed now after the death of Paul Martin.
Meadow Haven is now the only exit counseling center/program of its kind in the whole world, and for over ten years has been the stepping-stone to recovery for survivors of abusive groups.
Bob and Judy Pardon are wonderful, exceptional people and are absolute experts and professionals.
RR does not endorse MeadowHaven, but zeuszor does.
[www.meadowhaven.org]
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/19/2010 10:37PM by zeuszor.
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