Drats I wish I got to this site earlier. Interesting to see the "co-founder" of the Jesus Christians referring to himself as "co" something! I guess you have become more laxed Dave, and given some credit to someone else. One wonders who! Maybe you are being accepting of your wife's role in things these days. Good on you if you are.
I always remember you telling your members to make sure they identified you and you and you alone as the "founder"; or as you would like to describe yourself "annointed apostle". That "annointed apostle" rant you gave once... now locked away into the private archives for access only to those who agree with you, goes so against your previous beliefs of anti-hierarchy. Remember that little pyriamid structure on the one side and the direct connection to the cloud on the other. Well, guess which side you are on now... but then maybe you always were. I was just to silly to realise it.
Man, what has happened to you? Now you are even whipping people for crimes committed against you, and boasting about it while appealing to the sympathy of onlookers to agree with you. I know you would love to have a church that got to be like the Book of Acts and get to bury someone in your backyard when you exposed them. It would be just your luck to accidentally kill someone through your foolish actions; then what would you do.
I have signed my name as "apostate", because that is what I am as far as you are concerned.
Found this post from Dave on an ex Family board.
I am the member who was once associated with the Family. My wife was never a member, and I spent only a couple of weeks away from her and living with the Family more than a quarter of a century ago, before I decided to take advantage of a rule that said one could become a "shepherd" by setting off on their own and getting another disciple or two. I returned to my family, enlisted my children as members, and then proceeded to receive postings from the Family (COGs then) as a shepherd. It always frustrated the Family that they did not have me conveniently under their thumb, and eventually Cherry agreed to leave the church scene if I would leave the Family, and the two of us set off on our own, along with our own children. Thus the Jesus Christians were born.
The similarities between us and the Family are many; but almost none of them relate to sexual matters. We appreciate the idea of more open and frank discussion of issues which deeply concern young people, but our community on the whole tends to be regarded as opposite to the extreme, because we do not believe in divorce, remarriage, homosexuality, adultery, or even kissing and cuddling between engaged couples.
Dave McKay <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Newcastle, NSW Australia - Nov 29, 2003
I dont think there ever was an article about the 'anointed apostle' of God but he did teach it orally. Only the JC's lived by faith enogh to be true sold out believers working for God and not for money! Ha. There was something called 'True deceivers' or something like that. Also a book of studies to read instead of the bible and the top 40. If you read a book called 'Survivors' it informs of Dave's mad rants and fantasies about the end time (about to happen soon)
There is a review of it here [chickeninabighat.blogspot.com
] 'The heroes of Survivors are the Jesans. ( does it sound like the Jesus christians?) The Jesans' leaders - one of whom is recruited after the destruction of the US (oh yeah, the USA gets nuked into barbarism in chapter 1), one of whom doesn't appear "on-screen" much and lives in Australia, where Dave McKay lives - turn out to be the Two Witnesses who will preach against the AntiChrist in the Last Days. They breathe fire and speak the Truth and are guided by God in all things. They witness the rise of the AntiChrist, the construction of a Jewish Temple and Christian Church in Jerusalem next to the Dome of the Rock, the institution of the Mark of the Beast... eventually, they are shot dead by the AntiChrist's forces. At this point, the Rapture happens. (Because, you see, the Rapture only happens after the Great Tribulation, not before.)
He does believe he is anointed and above everyone. Kooky bit about web site being invisible to the agents or the system. In same book or Armag for beginners the JC's get to do nasty stuff in the end and then bury all the bods before they rule the world. Ha!
Anointed or not he istill seems to b one wave short of a shipwreck!