XKRISHNA Wrote:
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> Look, I take no pride in what I am writing and I
> am hardly saying snidely "I told you so!" to
> anybody. But I've followed Dave McKay and his
> antics for over twenty years, I always thought
> that he was a dangerous narcissistic predator who
> was going to get people killed by his teaching,
> and I've been proved right. And today I am messed
> up over this. Last night I barely slept, and
> today I've had no appetite and my stomach has been
> bad. Last summer, in Kenya, there was a mass
> suicide involving over 400 members of a cult led
> by a man named Paul Mackenzie. These people all
> starved themselves and their children to death, in
> order to expedite their being able to "meet
> Jesus." And Dave McKay was a direct help and
> inspiration to Paul Mackenzie; he helped to set up
> Mackenzie's church in Kenya. It was called Good
> News International Ministries. Good Lord
> almighty, I am sick. I was right. People REALLY
> DID die because of Dave McKay's influence.
>
> www.parliament.go.ke/sites/default/files/2023-10/FINAL%20REPORT-AD%20HOC%20COMMITTEE%20ON%20SHAKAHOLA.pdf


It makes me physically ill. I was right. My prediction came to pass. There ACTUALLY WAS a mass suicide on account of Dave McKay's teaching. I think that Mackenzie sort of took certain elements of McKay's teaching and practices, and adapted them for use in his own cult. Then people wound up dead. That's basically it; that is what it looks like to me.



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Hi!

Do you mean this story...?

[www.theguardian.com]

Yes.

"My friend Dave is a good person at heart; he is simply making bad decisions right now. The light of God still shines through Dave, but had we eyes to see! We are obligated to point this out to him prayerfully in a spirit of love, while holding hands and singing Kumbaya together.

Yes, we who take the ethical high ground shall use logic and reason to show him the error of his ways, and he will inevitably have a miraculous change of heart. Then Daddy McKay will be good again and everybody will live happily ever after."

Pure sarcasm, what I just put above. That XJC Quakerish condescending passivity is exactly the reason that the McKays kept getting away with everything. And now a bunch of children in Kenya starved to death, over their influence.

The McKays are a couple of snakes and it is my sincere prayer that God "take them out" of this earthly plane as expediently as possible. Then the world will be a better place.

You know, Malcolm, I live less than 200 miles away from one of Dave McKay's brothers. I am sure it's Dave's brother because this man posts old McKay family photos to his Facebook page, from time to time, and I see them. I'd love to go meet this man and speak with him about his brother, but he would most likely not be willing to speak with me. And I would not really blame him. If Dave were my brother, then I would not want to admit it either.

Hmmmm...

I've been fortunate enough to have been introduced to a gentleman by the name of Mwangi Muthiora ...with whom I hope to have ongoing 'intetesting' conversations about David McKay and his cult's activities... There was a truly fascinating debate (and subsequent passage of legislation) in the Kenyan Senate not so long ago... I ADORED one particular little gem...

Malcolm Wesley WREST Wrote:
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> Hmmmm...
>
> I've been fortunate enough to have been introduced
> to a gentleman by the name of Mwangi Muthiora
> ...with whom I hope to have ongoing 'intetesting'
> conversations about David McKay and his cult's
> activities... There was a truly fascinating debate
> (and subsequent passage of legislation) in the
> Kenyan Senate not so long ago... I ADORED one
> particular little gem...

Do tell, do tell of this gem, please sir.

Malcolm, I hope to God that I am wrong here, but I really, in my spirit, feel that Dave is not going to die of natural causes, one way or another. And I am scared to death for that reason.

Let's not go off the deep end with alarmist comments and speculation.

OK, I'll leave it be. But mark my words, Rick.