Christa, thanks for looking that up and posting it, and explaining it in plain-language.
As you said, James Ray sells registrations, which are in fact "nothing". They learned that from Werner Erhard, that you are really selling "nothing", just a belief in the customers mind. There is no "product".
That is why they keep upselling more seminars until the customer is dead broke, or dead. Even after the customer was dead, James Ray International kept the money for seminars they never took, as they died at a previous James Ray seminar. How could it be any worse?
James Ray copied his sales methods from the other LGAT crooks.
They are FORCED by law to give 3 days, as that is the cooling-off period in most states.
An in-joke for James Ray, is where they talk about salaries, materials, hotel contracts...all bullshit. James Ray con-vinced followers of his to PAY to work the seminars, there are no salaries, and they negotiate the hotel ballroom for free if they book enough rooms. Its another scam.
And it says right there, NO REFUNDS and NO EXCEPTIONS.
Meanwhile, JAR lists on his other websites, his bogus so-called "100% Iron-clad no-hassle guarantee", which is another scam and supreme SARCASTIC IRONY, as anyone in the business knows. They try to imply that they might refund your money IF you prove to them you did all the seminar exercises!!
] QUOTE: "Come to the Harmonic Wealth Weekend. Soak up everything I have to share with you...learn all of my most powerful success secrets...I mean everything. And if, at the end of the weekend, you don't believe that Harmonic Wealth is everything I say it is...if you're not absolutely thrilled with your decision to attend, I'll give you your entire tuition back. It's just that simple.
But there is one little (quite reasonable) condition... You must attend and participate fully in the entire program. This guarantee is void if you skip sessions or don't participate in the exercises."
Note the "condition", that is where you get SCAMMED. There are NO REFUNDS, NO EXCEPTIONS.
All they do is get you on the phone with one of their LGAT salescrooks, who will talk you in circles, upsell you, berate you, and gather information about you. Then the best they will do is SELL you another seminar, at a "special rate". So their bogus refund, is just a way to upsell people.
As the real contract says, NO REFUNDS and NO EXCEPTIONS.
So with those two opposite statements, there is a chance if someone challenged that, they could get their money back.
Meanwhile, James Ray brags he knows about "wealth and success", when his companies are a disaster and millions in debt.
James Ray talks about success in business, meanwhile his company does not answer the phone or return emails from their customers. James Ray International, the worst company in America.
Meanwhile, instead of James Ray making Tweets to give information to customers about where their $1,500 is, James Ray makes childish nonsense tweets from fairytales.
It would be as if someone owed you $1,500 and you call them up, and they won't answer their phones, won't respond to emails or letters. Then sit around all day getting high and sending out Tweets about Alice In Wonderland.
If someone wants their money back for a seminar, they should get some proper advice.
Perhaps sending a registered letter, and perhaps filing a claim for it. If/when the JRI company gets liquidated, then perhaps they could get on the list to get some money back? Again, check with local experts about that kind of information.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/17/2010 05:03AM by The Anticult.