The NLP for Dummies books don't go into the advanced persuasion aspects of NLP that are being used in these other areas.
NLP has also modeled/copied SALES in great detail, and that is a separate study.
They also fused that with conversational hypnosis and advanced language patterns. It can take YEARS of study and practice to figure that stuff out.
By the way, as an aside, everyone can be "hypnotized". All it means is narrowed focussed attention.
When James Ray was telling a Story, that is "hypnosis". The entire James Ray Modern Magick seminar is hypnosis. Unfortunately most people think hypnosis is like a zombie magic show, but its not, its just focussed attention with suggestions and persuasion.
The NLP stuff with making images smaller (submodalities) and clapping, (pattern interupt, anchoring) are just cognitive-behavior modification, nothing new, NLP pretends they are, but they have been around since the 1960's. Again, that is a different area of NLP.
Robert Dilts is supposed to be one of the "good guys" in NLP, yet here he is on youtube marketing one of his DVD programs. [www.youtube.com
You see him talk about "touching elbows" with his wife and starting a new journey in life, etc.
Well guess what? That is him beginning his understated sales process for his DVD program, and establishing a trigger with the elbow, and moving you along into that program, and his next programs.
Meanwhile his wife is into Transpersonal woo-woo, and Robert Dilts is also upselling into being an "Awakener". He clearly has some concealed "spiritual beliefs" that he is moving people into.
Why doesn't he state those up-front? Who wants to pay thousands to get unconsciously shaped into Robert Dilts belief system?
What % of the public is going to be able to see what guys like this are doing?
It just sounds like they are "talking" but they are running subtle yet powerful language-image patterns and using metaphors from first contact to move people along in the SALES process. Yes, SALES. They are not psychologists, they are experts salespeople. That is a fact of reality.
And they used their NLP modeled sales tech, to sell NLP to you.
So that is the trick, the average person just hears them talking, and sees Robert Dilts moving his hands around, mirroring, using metaphors, language patterns, but they have no idea of what is going on.
Watch the Robert Dilts vids on youtube to see a skilled understated persuasion expert.
"robert dilts" site:youtube.com
Then you have salesmen like James Ray several steps removed, who clumsily do the same NLP persuasion tech, but apply it absolutely ruthlessly to bankrupt soccer moms and wreck their lives, and end their lives.
If the NLP bigshots really cared what was happening to people out there, they would write some books explaining what is going on. But they don't. They save it all for the advanced trainings, and charge you $8-20K-50K for it. They make a fortune in private NLP coaching.
Sadly, untrained people can't really see what is going on with the advanced NLP persuaders, all one can do is just avoid them like the plague.
Its bizarre how even some softer NLP promoters say there are some ethical NLP persuaders out there. Who? And who's ethics?
Unfortunately it can take more than 10 years in the school of hard knocks to find out what is really going down. The average everyday person doesn't stand a snowballs chance in hell.
Worse, they are now concealing the advanced persuasion and language tech inside New Agey stories, and wearing pantsuits and pretending to be savants. That is why they are making the millions, and there are hundreds and thousands trying to get a piece of the action.
Robert Dilts could expose the entire thing in one book, but he won't, that is where he makes his money too. Its the senior NLPers, Stever Robbins included, who are the most to blame for not explaining to the public what is happening, but instead, they take their own piece of the covert persuasion action on an unsuspecting general public.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/12/2010 05:04AM by The Anticult.