Hey Bear Just wondering how long you have been in the MKP?
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Are you quoting him or signing ...Albert Spencer
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I would love to see your credentials maybe a photo, Native Americans are not hard to mistake! I would have to say that maybe a hand full this group have some Indian Blood, but not too many, because most of my people feel this an insult! Also you say ......."also, the name i'm using in this dialogue is part of my last name. also, i am part native american as are a number of
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I used to hear that phrase thrown around, and always wondered who it came from. Who is Herbert Spencer? It's always nice to know where an organization actually gets its ideas. Keep up the 12-stepping, brah.
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QuoteBearSongi've tried to detach myself from this argument, but have to say a few more things. if you want to keep me in this conversation, i'm asking for respect . . . the contempt, personal attacks, and comparing me to a nazi etc does not warm me to participation. You are always free to comment, it is welcome, as I have said. I still see no personal attacks. And I have certainly n
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i've tried to detach myself from this argument, but have to say a few more things. if you want to keep me in this conversation, i'm asking for respect . . . the contempt, personal attacks, and comparing me to a nazi etc does not warm me to participation. i stated in a previous post that i'll take your criticisms seriously, which i am/will. i'm hopeful that you'll take
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PRODUCTIVE QUESTIONS / COMMENTS 1. ACTIVE LISTENING (REPEAT BACK KEY WORDS) • “WHAT I’M HEARING IS ...” 2. WHAT’S AT RISK? 3. CLARIFYING • WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR YOU? • WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR YOU? I want to be loved. What does that mean to you, “to be loved”? It means to be held and accepted for who I am. How do you mean, “who you are”? I mean for my good and bad traits.
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Songs they use ....I will never be able to listen to any of this again and there is more! UGH! OMG I will never look at these songs the same, GTG get sick! MUSIC 1. MUSIC FOR GUTS PROCESSES AND CELEBRATION(S) • BOLDED TYPE INDICATES FREQUENT USE ON NWTA WEEKEND’S CATEGORY (Process) ARTIST TITLE Anger Fooling Yourself (The Angry Young Man) Styx Birth Canal Cat Stevens Morning
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Here is some of the guts manual and I group advanced training PRODUCTIVE QUESTIONS / COMMENTS 1. ACTIVE LISTENING (REPEAT BACK KEY WORDS) • “WHAT I’M HEARING IS ...” 2. WHAT’S AT RISK? 3. CLARIFYING • WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR YOU? • WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR YOU? I want to be loved. What does that mean to you, “to be loved”? It means to be held and accepted for who I am. Ho
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QuotefeldsparThis link is way too much to read, but you can read the intro a get a pretty good sense of the dissertation. [72.14.203.104] sorry but I don't know how to hyperlink so you'll have to paste the link to follow it Funny how when they do the % of ages of men, race and religion they have every race and religion for every group but native American???? Go figure!
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and sometimes its not when they just hit bottom. people have nagging problems that they carry with them everyday. these encounters make them have a sense of accomplishment but the people are not aware of just what the real accomplishment was. they end up feeling good about themselves and of course the credit goes to the group or the leader that helped them get there. manipulation is
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Its all so Owellian - conformity is choice, ignorance is freedom. I just want to make it clear that I don't mock anyone for wanting to do a course like this, it sounds very nice, until you realise what techniques and ideologies are at play. And then theres the money.... I signed up. Luckily I found this site before the weekend.
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Quotepatrick-darcyone thing that so many of these groups have in common is that they empower themselves over their victims while their victims are convinced they have empowered themselves, even over others. power , domination and money is what so many of these groups are about. trust in these groups is given and then they destroy peoples lives, then create in a sense a new one for th
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QuoteRU?ingIvy - keep this coming - just keep it in the mankind project thread! Am I in it? Or do I have to do quotes or do you want me to add this to yours?
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one thing that so many of these groups have in common is that they empower themselves over their victims while their victims are convinced they have empowered themselves, even over others. power , domination and money is what so many of these groups are about. trust in these groups is given and then they destroy peoples lives, then create in a sense a new one for them.
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Ivy - keep this coming - just keep it in the mankind project thread!
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This MKP questionnaire (sent in before the weekend) really leaves room for the respondent to show the best of themselves! I pressume this is so they can keep any 'trouble maker' in check? feldspar - what do you think to that?Quote sorry I missed that question. It's been so long I've forgotten everything on the questionaire. I seem to recall someother personal history qu
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QuotebonnieYeah, I read about the AA "sponser" trying to get his "sponsee" to go to MKP. I never knew about LGATs until someone on one of these topic posts said my AA experience sounded like an LGAT. Now I see the similarities all over the place. The 12 steps and MKP combined! I can't even imagine the kind of Frankenstein monster that might produce! A master-manip
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QuotefeldsparI know you have taken some criticism for you political comments, but personally, they have helped me start to critically analyze my own beliefs and what is going on in the US. Thanks feldspar - for me personally, having studied what I have, I cannot make a distinction between politics and religion - both are forms of population and thought control. I am amazed at the way the US s
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RU?ing I know you have taken some criticism for you political comments, but personally, they have helped me start to critically analyze my own beliefs and what is going on in the US. You have also mentioned similarities between this group and the masons. Was wondering if you cared to expound on that a little. I know little of that group and was interested in what similarities you see.
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... And before anyone tells me to stop being so political :wink: - please take a read of this - very British orientated, but it may show you how 'far up' this goes - who knows what strangness your lot have got up to - I mean the 'skull and crossbones' collective is frightening enough for a European! Great, so they are now 'advising' the UK prime ministers wife
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Quotewhat2doThe information I have received in these last few weeks from the people here has been so helpful. It is hard to resist an "enemy" that you do not know. I understand the phrase - keep your friends close, and your enemies closer. what2do - that logic only leads to paranoia - keep your friends closest - especially when dealing with LGAT's or cults. All you need to do is
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QuoteRU?ingQuoteundecidedmind you, I am not convinced that this is always and in all cases a harmful group - I have a friend involved with it and he says it made positive changes in his life, and his friend, not an MKPer, says he only knows of people with positive outcomes I am considering the training and seaching for facts, which are hard to gleen from the polar opposites of the for and agai
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Quoteundecidedmind you, I am not convinced that this is always and in all cases a harmful group - I have a friend involved with it and he says it made positive changes in his life, and his friend, not an MKPer, says he only knows of people with positive outcomes I am considering the training and seaching for facts, which are hard to gleen from the polar opposites of the for and against Undec
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Yeah, I read about the AA "sponser" trying to get his "sponsee" to go to MKP. I never knew about LGATs until someone on one of these topic posts said my AA experience sounded like an LGAT. Now I see the similarities all over the place. The 12 steps and MKP combined! I can't even imagine the kind of Frankenstein monster that might produce! A master-manipulator the
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QuotefeldsparThis was just starting up when I left MKP and really know little about it, but for the group, in light of what we read in the news today, would any sane parent send their kids to this? Nope! I dont trust anybody with my son! He is going to be 6 in July and he still has to go in the girls bathrooms, there are stalls with doors and the Mom I cames across said they don't b
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Should go to bed, but this 'dissertation' is 'interesting'. There are some stats on attendence for a weekend in American at the bottom of the document if you want to see some demographics - lets just say ok educated ok income WASPs club. Save you all reading this drivel: "In fact, one national leader of the MKP has stated that the work done in the MKP is —gradua
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QuotebonnieGot to agree with you, RU?ing, on the "dissertation". Even after skimming it briefly I could sense the pro MKP slant. The psychiatric profession often seems to promote, intentionally or otherwise, pschiatric programs run by untrained, unlicensed, unqualified non-professionals. Just look at the way they ship people off to AA, NA, and other 12-step programs without any hesit
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QuotebonnieThen I found this on the same "Boys to Men" website, on a page offering information about "mentoring": QuoteIt is amazing how innocent and tender these young men are. They are eager for this kind of attention and admiration from older men. I'm not kidding. It's right there on the web. What's up with that? Just a bad press-writer, or was it inte
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This MKP questionnaire (sent in before the weekend) really leaves room for the respondent to show the best of themselves! I pressume this is so they can keep any 'trouble maker' in check? feldspar - what do you think to that? MP used a "Confidential Questionnarire" to gain personal information from those it hopes to recurit. It tells those completing the form &
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