QuotewquercusRU?ing, thanks for posting the summary as you gave it. It is congruent with what I experienced, and those who say it isn't are perhaps not living in integrity. Excatly what I believe! And Thanks for taking the time to read the thread. I didn't actually post a summary - I posted the whole lot! QuotewquercusI'd differ with the implied criticism of sex-segregation, t
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wquerus: Read the summaries from the beginning of this thread. There is typically some nudity at the men's weekend.
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I can't imagine any activity by any member of Opus Dei that could bear any resemblance to what is described. Do you actually somewhere speak specifically of your experience? I've seen posts where you note you are Catholic, that you have a problem with orthodox Catholic teaching (as exemplified by Pope Benedict XVI), and it is clear you don't like Opus Dei. I'm just trying to s
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A cilice is not a "torture device," and it isn't "digging into" the person's skin. It's over magnified, for one, and it looks like it is actually on the person's arm. Moderator note: "wquercus" appears to be what is often called an "Internet Troll." His only purpose posting here was apparently to subvert the message board. He
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People read Brown, and so many of these "exposes," and they see that it is so far afield from the Opus Dei that they come to know through evenings of reflection, retreats, and friendships. It isn't a "cult," it is a way of being Catholic which is recognized by the Catholic Church as completely mainstream. Moderator note: "wquercus" appears to be what is o
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Moderator note: "wquercus" posted information here about the Mankind Project, which he admitted attending. Subsequently, more than a year later "wquercus" returned to delete all his posts regarding the Mankind Project. However, portions of his statements remain as quoted/noted by other members posting here. Apparently, "wquercus" came to realize that his stat
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Moderator note: "wquercus" posted information here about the Mankind Project, which he admitted attending. Subsequently, more than a year later "wquercus" returned to delete all his posts regarding the Mankind Project. However, portions of his statements remain as quoted/noted by other members posting here. Apparently, "wquercus" came to realize that his stat
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QuotewquercusHi, I'd be interested in getting the script you have. PM me your email after you've made 10 posts - I'm happy to spread their word - for free! Quotewquercusthen $5 a week after that, Now that I didn't know!!!! Wow - thanks Quotewquercusand it caused me to ask the question of whether I could really ask people to trust me to accept all that goes on on th
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I am very interested in anyone who has ever been to Women Within. My husband's 12 step sponsor is the one who pressured him into going. This same man was putting pressure for my husband to encourage me to go to Women Within. My husband finally 2 weeks ago told his sponsor no more talk about MKP or my wife. The sponsor agreed. The weekend for women seems to be as secret as for the men.
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Moderator note: "wquercus" posted information here about the Mankind Project, which he admitted attending. Subsequently, more than a year later "wquercus" returned to delete all his posts regarding the Mankind Project. However, portions of his statements remain as quoted/noted by other members posting here. Apparently, "wquercus" came to realize that his stat
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Moderator note: "wquercus" posted information here about the Mankind Project, which he admitted attending. Subsequently, more than a year later "wquercus" returned to delete all his posts regarding the Mankind Project. However, portions of his statements remain as quoted/noted by other members posting here. Apparently, "wquercus" came to realize that his stat
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Tim: Would you also explain, given what is known about MP now through this thread, why it should not be considered group therapy? And why would someone seek help in their life from MP rather than a more safe and conventional approach through a licensed professional? A licensed professional would seem better qualified, educated, accountable and less problematic in dealing with personal is
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Moderator note: "wquercus" posted information here about the Mankind Project, which he admitted attending. Subsequently, more than a year later "wquercus" returned to delete all his posts regarding the Mankind Project. However, portions of his statements remain as quoted/noted by other members posting here. Apparently, "wquercus" came to realize that his stat
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Moderator note: "wquercus" posted information here about the Mankind Project, which he admitted attending. Subsequently, more than a year later "wquercus" returned to delete all his posts regarding the Mankind Project. However, portions of his statements remain as quoted/noted by other members posting here. Apparently, "wquercus" came to realize that his stat
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Moderator note: "wquercus" posted information here about the Mankind Project, which he admitted attending. Subsequently, more than a year later "wquercus" returned to delete all his posts regarding the Mankind Project. However, portions of his statements remain as quoted/noted by other members posting here. Apparently, "wquercus" came to realize that his stat
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I was the Board Chairman for the Mankind Project in the Windsor-Detroit Centre for two years from January 1994 to January 1996. I would be happy to answer any questions anyone may have about the Mankind Project. MKP sponsors weekend retreats. MKP's intention is to empower men in their own lives. We ask men to create their own personal mission statements based on their own lives and t
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feldspar: Your reasoning is of course sound, and probably the case. What I am asking is from the organisational point of view. Those who wrote the original protocol. Who made the decision of male only, and why? Different protocols/tactics produce the same results (the points raised by rr and the link he posted show this to be true). I guess I'm just hoping that it isn't as true
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Feldspar: What you are describing is group therapy not education. Here is the problem. Therapy is typically through a trained professional that is licensed and meets certain criteria, such as a clinical psychologist. The professional has the ability and training to understand boundaries, possible problems arising out of therapy etc. MP has no such training or educational requirements
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Here's a brief answer to your question RU?ing. For sake of argument, let's assume their processes work. Some of the men have issues with mommy, significant other, or women in general. Part of the weekend process is expressing anger at those groups. I have heard some pretty hate-filled rants at those groups. I think men would be uncomfortable expressing that anger with women in th
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Quotefeldsparjust wouldn't work for them. I'm pretty sure sterling weekend separates too, probably for the same reason Thanks feldspar - I'm sure it wouldn't too - but I'm looking for other peoples reasonings why. Would or could you elaborate why you don't think it would work for them? I really appriciate your input feldspar, as if it were only those of us w
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ru?ing i saw your post on why they separate sexes trust me. just wouldn't work for them. I'm pretty sure sterling weekend separates too, probably for the same reason
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:) Hey Ru?ing, happy to see you! The MKP just cant keep a REAL MAN down, can they? LOL Good question for Jehovah's wetness... Yes please share your experience?? Did this group get you by ways of your church? I here they do a lot of that too? From all the searching we a slowly getting a few former members to talk about this LGAT! I dont understand why? But I hope we get
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What I can't understand is why MKP needs to seperate the mens group (MKP) and the womens (WW)..... Surely they are limiting finances doing that? Not just finances, but also possibility of enrolement (partner cant go so hubby doesn't go). I just don't get it. Baffled about that. Anyone got an enlightening thought or three on the matter? I mean, est, landmark, lifespring, c
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RU?ing, glad your back. Yes, I have read the website you mentioned. Just another way to get more money. They will always have a way to get more money, that is the ultimate goal of these people. If the founders truly believed in what they were doing, one could just say they were idiots, but they meant well. However, it is all about money. They do not care what damage they do to some men, some f
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Quote="Jehovah's wetness"I went through MKP. I'm largely undecided about the way the group operates and feel ambiguous toward the experiences that I had on the retreat. I distrust groups like this that claim to have the "answers", or the at least the right image to project. I'll join in the discussion and am eager to participate, but it is awfully late and
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I went through MKP. I'm largely undecided about the way the group operates and feel ambiguous toward the experiences that I had on the retreat. I distrust groups like this that claim to have the "answers", or the at least the right image to project. I'll join in the discussion and am eager to participate, but it is awfully late and sleep is much needed (and at least a bun
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Seems they now want more money for the MKP for safe email, it never stops > Well, to start with - I want to salute that RU?ing for costing MKP members a further $60!!!! lol!
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Hello everyone, its been a bit quiet without me! I must first say very sorry to Mr Rick Ross for getting him in trouble. I thank him for being a understanding human being of the highest order! I'm a little embarressed when I think of the time I have cost him :oops: But I'm liking the panic I caused MKP! :twisted: I'm very pleased to be back. And as such I wil be on my b
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Note to those who haven't read the first pages of this thread in a while: RU?ing's posts on the MKP document have been summarized by the moderator. The summaries are still pretty good.
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BearSong Is it possible that some had a different experience than you and want a safe place to discuss that experience(similarly to your space in the I-group) or is the process so perfect that the only way someone could not have had the same experience be that there was something wrong with them, or they are fabricating? I am thrilled that you had a great experience and that the men you have s
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