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11 years ago
ginah
Woman within is the female version of the mankind project aka new warriors training.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
rrmoderator
NoMinorChords: It seems that you have come here exclusively to defend Lifespring, which is a company with a sordid history of bad press, complaints and lawsuits. You have posted on MIT Lifespring threads. Now you are posting some spin here. See Lifespring made very serious mistakes. But the Ross Institute has not identified Lifespring as a "cult", so that is a false argument.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
rrmoderator
NoMinorChords: It seems that you have come here exclusively to defend Lifespring, which is a company with a sordid history of bad press, complaints and lawsuits. See Lifespring made very serious mistakes. But the Ross Institute has not identified Lifespring as a "cult", so that is a false argument. Lifespring is an LGAT (large group awareness training) that downloads a phil
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
rrmoderator
NoMinorChords: It seems that you have come here exclusively to defend Lifespring, which is a company with a sordid history of bad press, complaints and lawsuits. See Lifespring made very serious mistakes. But the Ross Institute has not identified Lifespring as a "cult", so that is a false argument. Lifespring is an LGAT (large group awareness training) that downloads a phil
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
ginah
Wefe, because of the person my husband became through MKP/NWTA/I-Groups, I now live with PTSD. I would seriously think about what kind of future you want for yourself. I fought for my relationship with my husband. We are still together, and he tells me he is no longer involved in MKP, but I will never trust him the way I did before. A part of me does not believe him, he became a cruel,
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
wefe
We allready went to a psyhologist, it was hard. He became a person wedouth feelings. I could not recognize him at all. He is totaly into the coure thing, reading some strange books, and telling to me that I am his enemy. He has some new best friend from the course, and this is a big problem for me, because we spoke about this before even he decided to go there, and he promiced me that he will not
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
corboy
Question for Walter1963: What can someone who has been "processed" read and work on so that he or she will eventually find ways to ID and fend off LGAT style sales tricks--and triggers? These triggers are not confined to a particular LGAT. First, many sales techniques, even for non LGAT products, incorporate strategies that are used in LGATs. I recall being pressured to pu
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
newfuture
It is so disgusting to see people on here, like the so-called 'free thinker' poster, defending LGATS. It cannot be overstated the deep damage and havoc and destruction that such groups wreak on people's lives. There is absolutely NO defence of such a thing. There is no need for LGATS to be in operation. None whatsoever. There is no need for people to purposefully attempt to
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
walter1963
Wefe What your husband is experiencing is typical of what happens in a LGAT. It happened to me when I attended several NLP seminars(NLP is another kind of LGAT). I lost interest in my hobbies, my job, my view towards my close friends changed, I couldn't emotionally relate to people anymore, I had bouts of helplessness. The good news is that generally the person starts reverting
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
wefe
Hi everyone. I am totally new here. My husband just come back from this course (in Germany) and I am totally confused. I can not recognize him. Can somebody help me by advice or information, anything???? Our marriage is falling a part. He lost his heart, and he is behaving totally strange.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
Notforme
I do not wish to debate these issues at length or try to talk people out of MKP if that is truly what they believe is best for them. I just have some strong feelings I need to get off my chest after going to a MeetUp group that left me feeling... "yucky" (Sorry. I do not have the exact word available). I just want to provide my information about a "Mens Group" I joined and
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
rrmoderator
To whom it may concern: Anyone interested in any form of large group awareness training (LGAT) should investigate the history of such training. LGATs generally have a history of bad press, complaints, litigation and in some situations labor violations. For example, such LGATs as Landmark Education, Executive Success Programs (aka NXIVM), EST, Sterling Institute of Relationships, Mankind
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
corboy
Inspirational feelings can be manipulated.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
rrmoderator
Free_Thinker: "It's simply wrong to assume that a LGAT 'downloads the belief system of a single person' into a cure for everyone." The MKP belief system ("consmic truth") was cobbled together by Kauth and his associates, apparently as previously pointed out largely based upon other LGATs, such as Sterling Institute of Relationship and Landmark Education, w
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
Free_Thinker
Dear rrmoderator, I guess we've sorted our differences out. On a few final notes, I don't believe in Kauth's 'cosmic truth'. I have my own ideas and I wish/want everyone else to have their's. It's simply wrong to assume that a LGAT 'downloads the belief system of a single person' into a cure for everyone. I said it before but apparently need to say
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
rrmoderator
Free_Thinker: The subject of this thread is not "The Matrix", "duality" or "quantum physics". The subject of this thread is MKP. It would be impossible for me to "brainwash" you through this message board, as I don't control your environment, exposure to information and associations, such as an LGAT does during a "weekend". If you wa
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
Free_Thinker
Dear rrmoderator, I appreciate all the info and links you've send. A little bit too much to read all at once, but I will read up over the next couple of days. I have been studying up on LGATs a fair bit. The term LGAT was new to me and I picked that up on this forum. As I read through different postings on different threads, I came to realize that there is indeed a general LGAT format and
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
rrmoderator
Free_Thinker: You say, "I can't help but notice a prejudice against the MKP. Would you be willing/able to look at it unbiased?" My opinion regarding MKP is based upon the historical facts, both regarding MKP and other LGATs. The evidence concerning the systemic problems with LGATs like MKP is overwhelming. For example, James Arthur Ray, an LGAT leader, is currently doing t
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
Free_Thinker
Dear rrmoderator, I can't help but notice a prejudice against the MKP. Would you be willing/able to look at it unbiased? I don't mind stepping into someone else's to get an idea of what it's like to be in their position. The parents of the man that committed suicide for example. If you try to imaging how you would feel in those circumstances you can also see why things unfo
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
rrmoderator
Free_Thinker: Thank you for noting that your experience is subjective. But when someone dies that isn't subjective it's objectively true. And the lawsuit settlement wasn't subjective either, it was a loss for MKP, as they paid and complied with the terms of the settlement, which you admit. You say, "I have been very close to suicides to know how this impacts families
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
Free_Thinker
Dear rrmoderator, Quote You are here as an apologist and when confronted by the first-hand experiences of people that see MKP negatively you simply go into denial mode based upon your subjective experience. But that is not proof of anything, other than you are a diehard true beleiver when it comes to MKP. I don't know why you say this? There's nothing to deny. I read their stories, b
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
rrmoderator
Free_Thinker: Now you say, "I have not had a bad experience and some of the things said by other posters are simply false." You are here as an apologist and when confronted by the first-hand experiences of people that see MKP negatively you simply go into denial mode based upon your subjective experience. But that is not proof of anything, other than you are a diehard true beleive
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
Free_Thinker
Dear rrmoderator, I really appreciate the time you spend on this topic. Once more on the apologist thing; I'm just arguing the other side of the story. I have not had a bad experience and some of the things said by other posters are simply false. It seems fair that I can set things straight, right? I don't mind reading all kinds of facts (good or bad) about MKP, as long as they are f
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
rrmoderator
Free_Thinker: Again, you seem to be here as little more than an apologist for MKP. You say, "Those stories aren't quiet what I experienced. FYI; I live in Western Australia and did my weekend in Perth." Frankly, this seems like a form of a denial. MKP has the same required script for all its events as mandated by the organization. And that script is excerpted and noted beg
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
Free_Thinker
QuoteSeekingTruthSee: sci.psychology.psychotherapy Search for: "Mankind Project 'New Warrior Training' " - hilarious. Some are here: mankind project 'new warrior training' weekend - 1 mankind project 'new warrior training' weekend - 2 mankind project 'new warrior training' weekend - 3 mankind project 'new warrior training&
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
corboy
Before participation, are you required to sign a release of liability form in which you sign away your citizen/resident alien rights to sue or mediate for damages in case you incur harm as a result of participating in that weekend? Here are examples of release of liability forms, used by other LGATs. Does Mankind project have any form resembing this? If you signed such a form, you may feel
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
SeekingTruth
See: sci.psychology.psychotherapy Search for: "Mankind Project 'New Warrior Training' " - hilarious. Some are here: mankind project 'new warrior training' weekend - 1 mankind project 'new warrior training' weekend - 2 mankind project 'new warrior training' weekend - 3 mankind project 'new warrior training' weekend - 4
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
rrmoderator
Free_Thinker: You don't seem to much of a "free thinker" and rather are here as an apologist for MKP. As the posts on this long thread indicate MKP is quite controversial and has generated many complaints. See MKP has a history of bad press and settled a wrongful death lawsuit rather than go to trial. The MKP manual has been discussed here in some detail. Though MKP
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
Free_Thinker
QuoteSeekingTruth Yes, we're disturbed about the *reports* too, especially the ones about harm to those attending MKP events including suicide(s) and the abuse that women have received from their partners post-involvement. That's why the thread is 110 pages long, that's even as much as threads about that other evil abusive cult Scientology. BTW You fail to explain why in the UK
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
SeekingTruth
QuoteFree_Thinker I'm a little disturbed by all the horror stories on this forum about the MKP. snip I've tried reading as much as possible, but this thread is a bit too long to read everything! snip Yes, we're disturbed about the *reports* too, especially the ones about harm to those attending MKP events including suicide(s) and the abuse that women have received fr
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