Big Mind includes doing shadow work. Someone writing about another group made a interesting quote concerning the dangers of 1) amateurs supervising groups and particular hazards of attempting shadow work in a group setting. Though this was written concerning a group with a different name, the same insights quoted from a Jungian analyst may also apply. If you're gonna use ideas fro
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Atehequa, welcome. I think from what I have gleened from Rick Ross Institute, that many of these LGATs (Large Group Awareness Training/Mass Marathon training) and even wiccans is that they have basically STOLEN much of the First Nations People's traditions. Check out the "sweat lodges" stolen by Mankind Project!
Forum: Hate Groups

Does anyone know if the MKP or the Woman Within are still active in Alberta Canada?
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Its very important that people are standing up against being forced to attend these types of abusive LGAT seminars in the workplace. LGAT seminars target workplaces, as if they can get influence over the bosses, then the employees can be forced, pushed into attending the seminars, and many people are afraid to refuse, to not get into hassles with the boss. Then the LGAT seminar, which uses very
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

KA-CHING! Great story. The more that employers get sued successfully for making their employees go to the psuedo-homosexual MKP the faster the companies will learn to say "no" to any salesman from MKP. It seems INSANE that a lawfirm would not see the flaw in the "contract" (i.e., signing away all your constitution and legal rights). I guess the "smartest people i
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Employer Tries to Force Employee to Attend NWT Weekend SANTA ANA, Calif. (CN) – An attorney says he was forced to quit his job after a law firm docked his pay because he refused to go to a seminar where he feared he would be “stripped naked, not allowed to leave, be required to discuss details of his sex life, handle a wooden dildo, and potentially allow other men to touch his genitals.” T
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The MKP with young girls sounds absolutely horrifying. To use the MKP techniques on young children, that is beyond horrifying. The sad thing is that they try to sell these things as a "camping weekend" which of course is NOT what it is. Its about extreme psychological manipulation. One would assume that mothers who are concerned about what is going on, can look into ways to monitor
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

doubtful, sorry to report that many groups have sued Rick Ross Institute to stop what he does for us all. Thankfully, almost all have failed. Here is one of the hard-fighting loser LGAT's: Here is the latest in this moron's losing streak (read and you will see Ross Institute mentioned): Earlier, you can read more of this failed moron here: One of my favorites is t
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

I have a naive question, do some of the organizations that get criticized on Rick Ross actively try to censor the forum or shut it down altogether? I am aware of moles and troles. I have seen them on the SGI thread. After reading posts on MP I started getting a little concerned that these organizations claiming to help people have to resort to secret rules and practices and clandestine subversive
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Read this thread from beginning to end. There are loads of links and reports here. Also join the Yahoo Group at
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

You wrote, "Based upon the MKP manual and the coercive persuasion techniques it exhibits, MKP deeply troubled history of bad press, complaints and personal injuries (e.g. wrongful death lawsuit) I would not recommend MKP to anyone for anything." I am new to this forum on MP but I have been active on the one dealing with the SGI. I got out after 21 years of active participation just a f
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

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Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families

I have been trying to find current posts on the Mankind Project but can only find things from 2006 or earlier. Please tell me how to find current comments.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families

Hah! Well they've met their match here, and I suspect with many other mothers. I have two little girls, and they will attend something like this without me OVER MY DEAD BODY. And I mean that. If I had to get a court order to prevent it, kick my husband out of the house, whatever it took. I would feel the same about any belief-based weekend, Buddhist, Catholic, Environmental, whatever,
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

OMG - first they have the 'men for boys' / 'boys for men' programme, now they're extending the perversion to little girls. Fathers can introduce their daughters into the world of MKP/WW. Notice all the "safe container" and other MKP mumbo jumbo. For little girls ages 5 and up! But ... WHY ARE MOTHERS/WIVES EXPLICITLY EXCLUDED? WHY IS ALL OF THIS OUTSIDE TH
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Another person opined: "It's a cult - they prey on people with low self-esteem and give them a 'new life' that involves estranging themselves from family and work and gradually syphoning all their money from them. They will be encourage to blame others for their lack of understanding and so become more ingrained with the 'group mind'. Dangerous and immoral - it�
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Here's a comment from a reader of the Daily Mail article. Pretty much sums up all the objections. QuoteAny organization that demands that sort of secrecy is designed to break up relationships. How could anyone "accept and love him as he is" when he refuses to communicate with her or put into the relationship even 1% of the energy he devotes to his cult? - BrianF, St Paul, MN,
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Quoteanonymous39I thought this was an excellent article, written from the woman's perspective, which is so completely ignored by MKP (the article doesn't name MKP, but it's very obvious): My husband turned into a tree hugger... and it killed our marriage By Hannah Angel My husband strode into the room, eyes shining, and spoke to me in a rasping voice I'd never heard b
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Sad that there were no replies to my last post. I guess all the MKPers have been chased off. I really did want to hear what they had to say. I thought this was an excellent article, written from the woman's perspective, which is so completely ignored by MKP (the article doesn't name MKP, but it's very obvious): My husband turned into a tree hugger... and it killed our marriag
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

@j845, I actually do have some questions: - Do you see any issues with the way MKP completely separates itself and its activities from wives, girlfriends, partners and families? - Have you ever spoken to wives, girlfriends, etc about this? What's their take? - Does your i-group ever involve other people? - Do you think that i-groups and NWTW could be 'successful' and be more
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

j845: You say, ".how the hell could you let someone control your mind..." But if you take the time to actually read the analysis of the MKP manual you can see how easily people can be manipulated. You said, "hey get you down to where you need to be." That's part of what LGATs do, they break you down. "...what the hell is religion? lemme guess..that�
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

This is evolving into a very long thread and I fear some powerful and enlightened posts are getting lost in the shuffle. Here is a very long (three back-to-back)posts by a smart member here going by the moniker "SeekingTruth": Take the time to click the above link and to read these three important posts from and about two different men experiencing the "joys" of Manki
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

and...not for nothing...but I have more things to say to what you have said...there are so many groups that sometimes do things. like you said they sometimes do pseudo reality. really? what the hell is religion? lemme guess..that's real?? 98% of the people on this planet are living in psuedo reality....and to write that about pseudo reality..really is pseudo reality. The act of sayin
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

and now you really got me thinking...this forum..your's is wonderful...and really it's MKP light. we talk about things..we say what we feel with minimal fear of reprisal...seriously rr...imagine doing that in real life with all these people, just sitting around and talking the same way...wouldn't you feel good? I know I feel good when i can see who the hell is talking to me...they
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

rr....trust me I'm not spinning anything with any agenda that is different than yours. Awareness. Let me explain the weak minded comment. I was referring to Kerby, the young woman in Ray's SweatLodge. I was wondering..how the hell could you let someone control your mind enough to really allow yourself to die? Look. I've been there. I've been in sweat lodges..run by MKP du
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

j845: There have been a number of MKP supporters that have come to this thread apparently in an effort to spin and/or apologize for the group. Please understand that attempting to place the blame on supposedly "weak minded" people that participate in MKP for any problems or injuries they may sustain linked to the the training is typical of the "victim bashing" that MKP s
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Christa. Curious, I'm in MKP please ask me questions. I promise to be honest. What I have to gain out of this is that legitamate group that is supposedly different and as good for me. I'm not getting any younger and I don't drink. I have read alot of what you have read...but I'm not sure telling Curious that it's bad for her man is the best info for her. It sounds as i
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Christa THANK YOU - for simply answering my questions directly and honestly in a manner that helps me understand. Coincidently I am watching a TV show (produced by ABC news) right now about James Ray and his weekend seminars in Arizona. What you have explained is so foreign to me, I honestly didn't see it. I am trying to wrap my brain around it and it is hard. Rather than coming strai
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Quotecuriousnycgirl But what is the purpose of the MKP plan? What are they trying to achieve with their bushwacking? I've heard first hand accounts of how this group has saved some marriages and has damaged and destroyed others. Is that their plan? To eliminate certain women from the lives of MKP men? Surely there must be more to it. The purpose of MKP is to meet the ego needs
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

curiousnycgirl: The facts are there, but you either have chosen not to deal with them and/or try to spin them in whatever way you can to minimize them. This is essentially engaging in denial not dialog. And denial is not the purpose of this message board. This message board is essentially here for people hurt by controversial groups and movements, some called "cults." MKP
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