AD: "The Living Word Fellowship is famous for many decades now, they don't pay but certain pastors, they don't pay for "volunteer" work they that people are "encouraged" to perform in their for profit sweatshops, and they don't pay any pensions except to certain people." I was part of a small crew that spent seven years maintaining/upgrading the So
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Apostle Dog Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There is one thing good about it, the current Pope > is for re-distribution of wealth. Since Gary > Hargrave supports him so well, it is time for the > Living Word Fellowship membership to demand that > he spread the wealth around the church, perhaps > give back a huge amount of the money he has
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FCSLC Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Cloudwatcher wrote in part: “hey what if it is > just "lights out"? Who would ever know the > difference.” > > ------------------------ > > It will be peace compared to our TLWF experience; 'The TLWF Experience' What documentary could do this justice?
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TheSarge Wrote: > I have no clue Gary''s motivation or consistency > in celebrating a Seder. Did he fast till Easter > as the Catholics do? I don't know what soup he''s > concocting. Gary has transcended from soup to certified nuts.
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One practice that might enliven current church services, and I think should be added to the TLWF ritual list, is snake-handling. And what better proof of demonstrating faith in God than this practice? Onward and upward.
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > HEADLINE NEWS: The Millennium Rebellion > > "Father, Work Your Will In Me" > May 22, 2016 > > > er-work-your-will-in-me/ > > "It is a continuation . . . that exposed the > unbelief and hardness of heart. How deeply God > needs to change us. We cannot work this i
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I can't believe I'm actually quoting a scripture, but here goes: 1 Peter 5 Shepherd the flock of God among you, exercising oversight not under compulsion, but voluntarily, according to the will of God; and not for sordid gain, but with eagerness; 3nor yet as lording it over those allotted to your charge, but proving to be examples to the flock. I think this attitude among 'mi
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ATTENTION: FRIENDS of Rich Lindy > > Rich Lindy Memorial > - > lindy-memorial/ > May 28, 2016 > > "The memorial and reception are for > friends, family, and members of The Living > Word Fellowship. > -- My impression of Rich from the few encounters I had with him, was that
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > BREAKING NEWS: Secret Portal > > > > For those who missed an earlier post regarding the > above website, the content found here is > repackaged JRS messages portrayed as their own. > After contacting them about this issue, it was not > received well. So there's no mention of Joh
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lily rose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > changedagain Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > kBOY Wrote: > > > > > "Matteo (Calisi) has been commissioned by > Pope > > > Francis to work in a ministry of > reconciliation > > . > > > . . to heal the divisi
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kBOY Wrote: > "Matteo (Calisi) has been commissioned by Pope > Francis to work in a ministry of reconciliation . > . . to heal the divisions and bring oneness to the > Body of Christ (which is) kindred to what the Lord > has been imparting to our fellowship since it's > inception. We have a responsibility to utterly > refuse division. This will enable us
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lily rose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes, RIP. When I stayed at Shiloh I remember Rich > being very kind to me too. Rich, Walkoe, Fisher, Gruenberg--never had any negative experiences with any of them.
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > SAD NEWS: Rich Lindy Passes Away May 13, > 2016 > > - > lindy/ That's so sad. RIP Rich. He always treated me well.
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kBOY Wrote: > After 65 years of a 'living word', with this being > as far as they've gotten, it might be time to > throw in the towel and simply begin to eat, drink > and be merry. It seems to have worked for quite a > few on this forum. Yes--people need to enjoy what time they have left. That is a Word!!
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lily rose Wrote: > I would guess at that time in the 90's you really > weren't "living the dream" and maybe at some > subconscious level you knew it wasn't a good idea > to bring new folks into the mouse trap and so you > unconsciously sabotaged your Target greeting Probably so
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Thanks Lily, In the cases I mentioned above, it was easy for me not to exploit them since I liked and respected them for who they were. If anything, I thought I had a lot to gain (spiritually...they were financially bereft at the time...as were many who gave themselves to the upward flow) by relating to them. Of course, inevitably the abusive tide from the very top swept them away. What a wast
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BTW, I was the designated relationship to a few people that once had 'important' ministries, but fell out of favor. Fortunately, for the most part, I sense how ridiculous it was for me to lord it over this person, and pretty much refrained from exercising a heavy-hand. After I eventually became weary of all the politics, and the requirement to kissing ass in order to move up in the TLWF
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John used to preach about the how essential it was for everyone to have their personal walk with God, and be directly led by His spirit. But then he countered it with placing more weight on the Lordship of Christ, which became expressed later (during Marilyn and Gary's reign) as serving leaders, often dysfunctional, in a perverse, oppressive system of 'designated relationships.'
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TheSarge Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > But, really, not much is brought up on the current > state of affairs (pun not intended) with churches > closing like after JRS died, or the power strugle, > if any, between Gary and Rick, or how people are > doing. I realize now this isn't really the forum > for that! So, I guess I need to s
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There is still a small residue of milk & honey > amidst all the devastation: > > I wonder if I win the MF raffle, they would be willing to include my airfare? That would be awesome.
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kBOY Wrote: > Couple this with visions of prophets marching > throughout the land, taking down principalities > and powers "Prophets of God Marching Along At the End of an Age They are the ones that make things happen That Make Things Happen Loosing the Wrong Judging the Right As one army they stand..." It's been a while. My recall of the lyrics is a bit m
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It's possible that many of the so-called nephilim were actually those that represented obstacles to John's ambition. Of course, he would say it wasn't his ambition, but the will of God (God's ambition for his people)--that he had evolved spiritually to a level where they were one in the same (Christ in the flesh).
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > BACKROOM DEALS: More Curious Doings Behind > Closed Doors > > As CHANGEDAGAIN posted back in August 21, > 2014 regarding Hargrave Family Ministries, this > was established before JRS even exited the scene, > bringing into question either his state of mind > due to illness, directives he might
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Cloudwatcher: "It makes me sick to think that LWF would do that so they can get every last cent. Let them all go; release them to have some kind of life in this world before their final exit. They have given enough; let them live their lives for crying out loud. Hargrave you have the power to end this madness for them. Do the right thing,please. Not that you care about the right thing.
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It is unfortunate that so few know so little about > the backroom machinations regarding the dramatic > transition period directly following the passing > of JRS, from the untaped 'commissioning' of the > G-man to be the new frontman, from the apparent > freezing of the body (in the fading hop
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O.K.--I finally found it. Once you read it, you'll know what I'm referring to. I'm only sharing an excerpt, which contains the relevant part. The comment was posted by 'Invisible' on June 26, 2014: Invisible Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Something to ponder: > > At Grace Chapel of Southgate Probably in (1966 ) >
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Marilyn still talks to Gary, apparently. John relates to Edward and Anne, apparently. At this point I would settle for a visitation from Happy Clark. I'm just not spiritually ambitious, I guess.
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