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Changed wrote: Onion wrote; Also evidenced by Rick's appointment to the Boards of Directors and commissioned oversight in L.A. especially regarding the schools where Rick had the authority to decide the amount of wages paid to teachers, OMG! What could go wrong with that arrangement? A serial abuser in a position of authority over the school, the teachers, and teacher's wages. S
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Ah, the birthday cards. The faux assurance telling us that Gary & Marilyn cared for each one individually and us personally. Of course it was a list generated at the local church level and consolidated and mailed out by a "servant" or secretary in Shiloh. Another control tactic, if you ask me. I have now forgotten when I stopped receiving them. I left in 2008 or 2009. As so many
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Changed wrote: ...Hey parents, stay away from anything that involves Gary Hargrave. Protect your children's lives--it's your responsibility. Thanks Reep for issuing this warning. “Shiloh Learning offers resources for the restoring of education to its biblical roots – which we believe are in keeping with sound educational research for the wholeness and well-being of students, fa
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Looking through parent workbooks at Shiloh Learning. Someone please rescue me from this deep dive! Anyway, one of the contributors listed is this person/organization.
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Unfortunately, the news about the end of Shiloh University must be tempered by caution. Gary Hargrave is not finished with education altogether. Now he is focusing his efforts toward the K-12 homeschool community. *********** “Shiloh Learning is focused on encouraging and equipping parents in their God-designed roles and responsibilities for engaging in the learning and development of t
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An interesting item has come to my attention, and I see it as a cause for celebration. Regarding Shiloh University from their website's history section: "Through the years, Shiloh University fostered a history of faculty loyalty and student satisfaction. The school, however, was unable to sustain sufficient growth to maintain the quality and integrity of future operations. In additio
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Excellent choices for reposting, Changed. I was looking at the same time period yesterday. January 5th, 2018 was a busy day for a few of us. The fur was flying on that day. Boy, howdy!
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Changed wrote: What you see, you shouldn't trust. So that 400 lb guy on the platform wearing a Hawaiian shirt is not real? WHAT DID I JUST TELL YOU!! #HumorFailsUnlimited _________________ Exactly! My favorite part of this episode was when Scott and Charity shared tidbits from This Week inserts that someone had saved. Lots of End Time prep (shudder) stuff. Did I ever mentio
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You'll laugh! You may cry. It will definitely make you think. And then laugh some more. Be sure to watch this end of the first season episode of Oops! I'm In A Cult.
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Great synopsis, Changed. It seemingly happened almost overnight. The Catholic church was Mystery Babylon. And then, shortly after Pope John Paul had passed, Gary was suddenly interested in who the new pope would be. So crazy!
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I just watched the new video interview of Johana Wozniak, who was born and raised in The Living Word Fellowship. This included spending her entire school career at Centers of Learning in North Hills, CA. What do you suppose happened when she needed help at the age of 17? Thank you, Scott Barker. Thank you Charity Navalesi. These interviews are helping so many of us to process our experiences.
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It boggles my mind how long these con artists were able to trick people (us) into believing that God was talking to them in a coherent manner. They were making it up as they went along. There was no "God's plan". It was a long con since the beginning. And at least one or a few are still gouging misguided people with good hearts. May the cons rot...
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There's a new Oops! I'm In A Cult featuring former TLWF member and frequent contributor on this thread, Larry Bobo. Excellent, as always! Thank you, Scott and Charity!
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Another excellent episode of Oops! I'm In A Cult is up on YouTube.
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JezTheBelle wrote: Proverbs 11:9 "With his mouth the godless man would destroy his neighbor, but by knowledge the righteous are delivered" For once the buggers got it right. It WAS knowledge that delivered us. Not G&M and certainly not some plagiarized "Word" or even "submission." It was knowledge. And we've certainly been delivered. And about that
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Changed wrote: I'm a little confused. So what do you want me to be? Anything but you. That's for sure, Changed. Especially if it was a zero with the rim rubbed out. And I feel that I would be remiss if I didn't point out that neither JRS, nor Marilyn, nor Gary, nor Rick ever attempted to be that (a zero) even once in my recollection.
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Happy Freedom Day! I know that I'm two days late. It's worth mentioning that five years ago on October 25th, 2018, Shalom Abrahamson posted her devastating evidence of abuse and coverups by TLWF leaders. I, and so many others, are still in awe of this act of bravery. Thank you forever, Shalom!
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Changed shared: Posted by: pressingonbyHisgrace Date: January 03, 2019 01:48PM Do you remember the phrase "You're killing John"? This was said to people who were not toe-ing the line correctly, in the late 70's and early 80's. The responsibility of God not moving John into resurrection life was laid upon the congregation. We were told (mostly by Marilyn Hargrave) t
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Excellent new YouTube video from Scott Barker and Charity Navalesi. Lots of historical evidence. I'm still watching and I'm blown away.
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Changed wrote: Q. You see some guy, obviously drunk, recklessly driving a golf cart. He is now heading dangerously close to you. What, if anything, do you say to him? A. Hello King David! **************** Oh, yes. And if you were foolish enough to live in the Church of the Living Word, North Hills neighborhood, it was a very common sight. True story: Did you know that when we first mo
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Changed wrote: You will need to pay for room and board, but then you get to work for free. It's a win-win! (just started listening) ******** Yes. And that was just the beginning. It becomes tragic as you get into it.
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Well, another Oops! I'm In A Cult podcast is up on Spotify. Thank you to Scott Barker and Charity Navalesi for doing these excellent deep dives into the effects that The Living Word Fellowship cult had on member's lives. This one is about another younger person, 3rd gen Titus Walker. It's called "Bad Boy Boot Camp". I highly recommend listening.
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I highly recommend this new podcast by Scott Barker and Charity Navalesi on Spotify. In it, they take an in-depth look at Shalom's letter, which were publicly posted on October 25th 2018. Extremely helpful and insightful. Hey, the 5th anniversary is just around the corner!
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Changed wrote: IF YOU ARE GOING TO VOLUNTARILY WORK ON AN OUTSIDE PROJECT FOR VIP CHURCH MINISTRIES, MAKE SURE YOU BRING YOUR OWN SUNSCREEN, DRINKING WATER, PORTA-POTTY, FIRST AID KIT AND PERHAPS A PHYSICIAN ASSISTANT!! IF YOU NEED ANYTHING ELSE, FOLLOW DIVINE ORDER AND TALK ONLY TO THE HANDLER, IF YOU CAN LOCATE HIM. DON'T BOTHER THE OCCUPANTS OF THE HOUSE!! THEY NEED THEIR SLEEP!!! #Fa
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Changed wrote: Not quite the inspirational Labor Day story I hoped to share today. That said, it did end on a positive note, with the author 'Aleutian' having a 'light-bulb moment" that presumably led him to leave the fellowship. It's all good. Posted by: Aleutian Date: January 09, 2019 09:12PM I recently recalled a time I was volunteering working on ¨G and M´s¨
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FCSLC wrote: Reepicheep: You Tube video: Charity speaking at 1:03:00 to 1:03:35. All the dropouts of the collapsed church are “Dead Weight,” and can be cut out so the true remnant can go forward. Not surprising to me. Thanks. Thank you very much, FCSLC. I was trying to explain this to some other people, but couldn't find the exact quote. It's not surprising to me either. This
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FCSLC wrote: I watched the You Tube video and had a trifle reaction to the “dead weight” accusation. For me, it’s clear that certain deceivers are not changing their MO. Not surprised ---- “dead weight” is another charged, cringeworthy and ridiculous sentiment belonging to the ongoing list of hustle terms headed by the all-time scam phrase, “divinely appointed.” Absolutely! Question: I must
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Changed wrote: For the record, I don't think it is anyone's business how clean someone else's pipe is. Even for TLWF, that inquiry is going too far. #FocusOnYourOwnPipe I couldn't agree more, Changed. Also, for the record, John Robert Stevens never in his life was anything even remotely resembling a "zero with the rim rubbed out". Neither was Marilyn Clelan
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Episode 2 of Oops! I'm in a cult. Eleni Davis and son, Sam, open up about their years in the cult. Excellent insights. I'm not sure why I'm still somewhat surprised at revelations.
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