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6 months ago
Reepicheep
CARe Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thought I should add a few pieces to the puzzle: > > th231955 Monty was living in Ireland a few years > ago. > > I have heard a 1st hand account of WJ Stevens > being inappropriate with a young woman. It is her > story so I will not say more except that he wasn't > as great as some th
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6 months ago
Reepicheep
CJLOR Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes, thank you Reepicheep. Greatly appreciate you > sharing the podcast episode here on the CEI forum > (--> > www.ltaspod.com/23) > > TLWF loyalists (I'm guessing there are some of you > here): > > What information shared in the podcast episode do > you dispute? > >
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6 months ago
Reepicheep
Typer, I hope that it can help people still being fooled by Gary Hargrave too. The podcast is excellent, but if you don't have time to listen right away, there is also a link to a transcript on the website.
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6 months ago
Reepicheep
Here is a link to a very comprehensive podcast episode about The Living Word Fellowship. From the podcast's home page: "Let's Talk About Sects is an award-winning, 100% independent monthly podcast focusing on a different cult each episode. Host Sarah Steel takes a storytelling, deep dive approach, looking at the history of a sect's leaders, the recruitment of members, the
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6 months ago
Reepicheep
changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Reep wrote: > Yes, they should have kept ALL that shit to > themselves. But then, Gary Hargrave actually said, > "Mom and I like to do it a lot" to a Valley church > sanctuary full of young people. SMH > > If their intent was to kill the libido of the > younger generation, thi
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6 months ago
Reepicheep
changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- Perhaps I'm adhering to an unrealistic standard, but I still think 'Mom' should have at least waited until her husband (aka 'The Apostle to the Kingdom') breathed his last breath...before getting busy with another man. And if she really did enjoy her new husband's 'tool,' no need
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6 months ago
Reepicheep
changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Not only (apparently) were the key leaders of TLWF > getting busy (so to speak) as John lay dying, but > later they made sure to blame the fellowship for > not loving John enough, not praying for him > enough...essentially being responsible for his > death. > Be the opposite of what you prea
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6 months ago
Reepicheep
Changed, I know there was also a wedding in Shiloh. They may have also had one in the islands.
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6 months ago
Reepicheep
Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > John Robert Stevens died on June 4th, 1983. Gary > Hargrave and Marilyn Stevens married on March > 17th, 1984. Not sure if that was the date of their > wedding at CLW or not. Sickos. Hey...isn't that St. Patrick's Day? You'd think we would remember that if the wedding was that day. All t
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6 months ago
Reepicheep
John Robert Stevens died on June 4th, 1983. Gary Hargrave and Marilyn Stevens married on March 17th, 1984. Not sure if that was the date of their wedding at CLW or not. Sickos.
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6 months ago
Reepicheep
I agree with Invisible's, kBOY's and Changed's perspectives regarding Marilyn. John and Marilyn's public wedding took place at Church of His Holy Presence in Anaheim on October 4th, 1980. However, public records show that they were legally married on September 8th of 1980. Could that have been the private ceremony that Invisible attended? Or was there a previous private "
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6 months ago
Reepicheep
changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Post by Saw enough from September of 2015: > > Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John > Robert Stevens > Posted by: Saw enough > Date: September 11, 2015 02:42PM > > JRS used to say that people would half-heartedly > excuse themselves by saying things like, "I have a
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7 months ago
Reepicheep
Posted by: 40yearsin2016 Date: September 25, 2018 02:07PM Ok I'll play... but instead of filling in a questionnaire, Here's what I require for my healing. Amy should, being charged the responsibility since "Gary doesn't want to get involved": 1 - Read this forum - all 689 pages 2 - Read Woodrow Nichols book - all of it. Based on that research generate a l
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7 months ago
Reepicheep
That is strange, Movin'On. But then, TLWF wasn't known for using logic. Too much like the carnal mind, I guess.
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7 months ago
Reepicheep
Posted by: Movin'On () Date: February 22, 2020 09:39PM Yes it was Jeff. He regained most of the use of his wrist and hand. Whoever asked about the arrangement between the sawmill and Shiloh, it was supposed to be 5 dollars an hour to Shiloh for this slave labor. What did you guys get for that? 80 bucks a month and all the corn chowder you could stomach. ******************** I think
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7 months ago
Reepicheep
kBOY wrote: "There are about 41,000 different Christian denominations in five major 'families' of churches/communion. The percentages in brackets indicate the percent of the Christian population affiliated with each 'family' or group of denominations: The Catholic Church [50%] Historic Protestant and Anglican churches [18%] The Eastern Churches (Orthodox, Oriental
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7 months ago
Reepicheep
Sammy, This is a horrible story of child abuse and mind control. I hope that you have been able to find secular counseling and help to deal with all the trauma you endured. Best wishes for freedom and a much better life ahead.
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7 months ago
Reepicheep
kBOY, yes, they have a lot of people mixed in there. I thought that maybe they were naming people involved with the same foundation of Latter Rain/Manifest Sons of God/Apostolic Movement. Some of the people named were involved with The Walk of JRS, some with other groups. Side note: Sam Fife also called his group "The Walk" before it became "The Move". William Branham (Latter
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7 months ago
Reepicheep
Here's some interesting info I found on the link below. It ties a lot of the Latter Rain people together, including Warnock, Stevens, Sam Fife, Branham, etc. You might recognize a few other names as well. The ‘Manifest Sons of God’ followers were divided into two major sects. ‘The Walk’ (or The Living Word )(1), and also the ‘Body of Christ’. The Walk started in 1950’s under the “apostles
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7 months ago
Reepicheep
Of course, if anyone still has a copy of The Feast of Tabernacles manual, please let us know the date of publication.
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7 months ago
Reepicheep
Changed wrote: Reepicheep Wrote: > "The Feast of Tabernacles" looks exceedingly > familiar. I believe it was printed in 1951, I'm > pretty sure that the JRS version was several years > after that. You are correct, Reep. Check out this link (hopefully it works): List of the book's chapters: ******************* Here's a clue I found rega
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7 months ago
Reepicheep
Thank you for sharing about Gladys, CARe. She was a treasure.
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7 months ago
Reepicheep
Changed, Thanks for the link. "The Feast of Tabernacles" looks exceedingly familiar. I believe it was printed in 1951, I'm pretty sure that the JRS version was several years after that.
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7 months ago
Reepicheep
This partial post is shared here with permission from the author. It was shared by a friend in the private Facebook group The Living Word Fellowship Survivor's Stories in 2018: "Then my husband, while doing research for a book on a little known literary movement, found this from a speech by George Herron in 1892: “To be a Christian according to Christ means, first and always, the
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7 months ago
Reepicheep
Changed and kBOY, thanks for re-posting and delving into Saw Enough's thoughts from September 18, 2018. I remember hearing about JRS' "trip to the future" very well. I wouldn't learn about the circumstances surrounding his "vision" until forty-six years later, or twenty-six years after Gary and Marilyn Hargrave discovered the truth...that he had been with a youn
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7 months ago
Reepicheep
Thaks kBOY. NancyB, I can't even imagine how awful that period of behing held against your will at Shiloh must have been. Couldn't that be considered illegal, as in kidnapping? More props to you for coming out with your sense of self intact. I have long wondered how many people over the years felt "trapped" in places like Shiloh. With workers having no savings, no transp
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7 months ago
Reepicheep
Typer, Thank you for sharing your account of being injured at the sawmill. I have a hard time understanding the mentality that doesn't use basic safety precautions, especially after children (the Nisly boys) had suffered severe injuries. Thank goodness for Jody insisting that you be seen in Iowa City. Good grief! Does anyone know...was the sawmill transformed from a private bisiness to
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7 months ago
Reepicheep
Typer, Thank you for sharing your account of being injured at the sawmill. I have a hard time understanding the mentality that doesn't use basic safety precautions, especially after children (the Nisly boys) had suffered severe injuries. Thank goodness for Jody insisting that you be seen in Iowa City. Good grief! I'm also glad that you survived the experience. Does anyone know...w
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7 months ago
Reepicheep
Posted by: kBOY () Date: February 09, 2020 01:27PM C H A N G E D After putting in about 15 months in the dust, my only injuries were a chipped tooth and the loss off the tip of one of my fingers. Others were not so fortunate, including the loss of partial or total digits and almost the loss of an entire hand--which miraculously healed in an amazingly short period of time, considering the d
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7 months ago
Reepicheep
Replacement parenting, designated relationships, submission...so much crazy, and so much damage that will never be acknowledged by the perpetrators. kBOY: One could also characterize it as the human version of a surveillance environment, where actions were closely monitored for the sake of the 'greater cause'. Perpetual 1984. : (
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