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16 years ago
Rswinters
QuoteskepticQuoteMartinHI do not understand why psychotherapists or other mental health professionals and acedemia do nothing about these cults. So far, I have seen only a few studies. I second that! I believe its because the ones that have been destroyed from LGAT's like my case with Klemmer & Associates. We are so overwhelmed that we are not able to communicate to the right pe
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16 years ago
Rswinters
Quotebigboyx5When I checked Wikipedia's entry on the Mankind Project in January, It was marginally okay. It had mentions of claims of being compared to a cult, links to both pro and con articles (incl RickRoss) etc. Now It has only one mention of the word cult, there are no links to any negative sites, and it almost reaks of pro-MKP writing. It's become nothing more than another marketi
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16 years ago
Rswinters
Quotefatherof3Cosmic Connie, I want you to know that your attitude not your words are what really sculpt your life. I was born with health problems i didnt attract it. I have gone throught 6 open heart surgeries a heart transplant and cancer and i know that i didnt attract it by my words. I managed to get through all this and today i am doing better but what has really amazed me is that by cha
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16 years ago
Rswinters
QuoteGlauconI used Youtube to contact the presidential candidates of the United States to take legal action against LGAT's in the form of mental therapy and health malpractice legislation and reformation... Can you give a the link to what you put on youtube?
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16 years ago
Rswinters
Quotefatherof3I would have to disagree with your statement above. I dont think by people coming on here and talking about having a good experience means that they are being insensitive. That is not my intention and i have mentioned how my own experience was completely different from others on here. That is not being boastful just stating that not everyone has the same experience. I feel like you
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16 years ago
Rswinters
Good document on law and Mental health. Here is link.
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16 years ago
Rswinters
I forgot to add, I let myself be brainwashed also in an LGAT. I am not wanting to attack here. I am getting this in hindsight as I have been blown out the back side of an LGAT by the destruction it brought in my life. This is what is driving my passion to help steer as many people from buying into any and all LGAT's out there.
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16 years ago
Rswinters
Oops, made a mistake on quote, and how my post interacted with it. Here is corrected post. QuoteSilmeranLastly, yes, they break you down. It isn't pretty, but people do it all the time. Its the intention behind it. And its not to break you down so they can supplant what you believe, I was never told that I now had to listen and do whatever the MKP said like a mindless drone. I was
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16 years ago
Rswinters
QuoteformerimpactgradQuoteexImpactDisgruntled wrote: I think the only thing Robert didn't lie about was that Impact changes lives. He got that right. Yes, quite. May I ask what you are disgruntled about with regards to Impact, or do you have a personal beef with Paisola? Does anyone else think that Disgruntled may be disgruntled because he/she keeps getting booted from the board for
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16 years ago
Rswinters
QuoteRswintersQuoteSaneAgainI think there is a split in the lgat world, between the organisations that are in it purely for the money (I'm guessing Landmark fits there) and those who are "true believers". There is no split there. It is all crap, and the results show it loud and clear. Like it has been said countless times, and has been pointed out very clearly many times on t
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16 years ago
Rswinters
QuoteRswintersQuoteSaneAgainI think there is a split in the lgat world, between the organisations that are in it purely for the money (I'm guessing Landmark fits there) and those who are "true believers". There is no split there. It is all crap, and the results show it loud and clear. Like it has been said countless times, and has been pointed out very clearly many times on t
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16 years ago
Rswinters
QuoteSaneAgainI think there is a split in the lgat world, between the organisations that are in it purely for the money (I'm guessing Landmark fits there) and those who are "true believers". There is no split there. It is all crap, and the results show it loud and clear. Like it has been said countless times, and has been pointed out very clearly many times on this websites.
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16 years ago
Rswinters
QuoteRswintersQuoteRswintersJust log back in. Backspace to your post. It should still be there and you can post it. EZQuote I can't get this to work. Is there a trick to it? Oops. I can't even do quotes right...lol So, it may be user error on my part. Anyone care to help me out in figuring this out?
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16 years ago
Rswinters
QuoteRswintersJust log back in. Backspace to your post. It should still be there and you can post it. EZQuote I can't get this to work. Is there a trick to it?
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16 years ago
Rswinters
Just log back in. Backspace to your post. It should still be there and you can post it. EZQuote I can't get this to work. Is there a trick to it?
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16 years ago
Rswinters
QuoteexImpactQuoteRswintersQuoteexImpactFollow this link if you would like to see what I did last night. (I inverted the colors to avoid infringing on copyright) :D Can you modify the image to have LGAT versus I being only in the cross hiars in this image? In my case it would have a K in the cross hairs. But, as I have discovered its not just Klemmer, or Impact that needs to be in ou
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16 years ago
Rswinters
Out of curiosity? Is it just me, or are many of you who have been deeply harmed by impact, or any other LGAT company finding these resent posts since yesterday on this thread stirring up the pain of your own pain with being involved in an LGAT company. I may be more sensitive to this due to the fact of what I am dealing with in professional counseling. But, I have been experiencing alot of a
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
QuoteexImpactFollow this link if you would like to see what I did last night. (I inverted the colors to avoid infringing on copyright) :D Can you modify the image to have LGAT versus I being only in the cross hiars in this image? In my case it would have a K in the cross hairs. But, as I have discovered its not just Klemmer, or Impact that needs to be in our cross hairs. It is all L
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16 years ago
Rswinters
Copied from Impacts topic thread. Rswinters Senior Member Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 276 Posted: 07-16-2007 10:57 PM Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- formerimpactgrad wrote: I guess it is also of note that prior to the Impact Trainings I was a very devout member of the LDS church. I no longer believe m
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16 years ago
Rswinters
Rswinters Senior Member Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 275 Posted: 07-16-2007 10:57 PM Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- formerimpactgrad wrote: I guess it is also of note that prior to the Impact Trainings I was a very devout member of the LDS church. I no longer believe many of things that I believed at that tim
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16 years ago
Rswinters
QuoteformerimpactgradI guess it is also of note that prior to the Impact Trainings I was a very devout member of the LDS church. I no longer believe many of things that I believed at that time and I have not been involved with the church since I was in the TIT series. I didn't believe much of what was being taught at Impact (I have disclosed my reasons for attending TIT in prior posts) and
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16 years ago
Rswinters
Rswinters Senior Member Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 273 Posted: 07-16-2007 10:43 PM Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Okay folks. This touched a hot live wire in me... Thank God, for professional counseling. I will have a chance this week to maybe dismantle some of this anger which has been agitated in this a
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16 years ago
Rswinters
Okay folks. This touched a hot live wire in me... Thank God, for professional counseling. I will have a chance this week to maybe dismantle some of this anger which has been agitated in this aspect. whoa, guess this stuff is more alive, and hot than I thought. This took me right back to the anger, and fustration with my situation that happened this past year with Klemmer and my soon to b
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16 years ago
Rswinters
Rswinters Senior Member Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 271 Posted: 07-16-2007 10:36 PM Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- formerimpactgrad wrote: Rswinters, I'm sorry all of that is happening to you. My marriage was an Impact casualty. As were three other marriages right around the time that I left the gro
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16 years ago
Rswinters
QuoteformerimpactgradRswinters, I'm sorry all of that is happening to you. My marriage was an Impact casualty. As were three other marriages right around the time that I left the group. My marriage may have ended eventually anyway, I guess there's no way to know for sure, but Impact certainly made things much more painful, arduous and dramatic. In my case. I would never have
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16 years ago
Rswinters
If you want to understand how Klemmer seminars work. Read Impacts thread and pay attention to the mechanics of their seminars. I have been discovering that Impact and Klemmer are basically carbon copies of how seminars are basically ran to include many of the same excercises. Sorry Brian Klemmer. You state how unique Klemmer seminars are. Your full of crap, and your integrity on this m
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16 years ago
Rswinters
Rswinters Senior Member Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 268 Posted: 07-16-2007 09:58 PM Post subject: Re: Impact Trainings -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Count your blessings because this is very similar, in how Klemmer dealt with my marriage that was on the rocks with my wife. Unfortunately. My wife did not choose to step out,
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16 years ago
Rswinters
Count your blessings because this is very similar, in how Klemmer dealt with my marriage that was on the rocks with my wife. Unfortunately. My wife did not choose to step out, and to this day is seeing herself as victim to an abusive husband. While not facing the abusiveness that she shows up with. Klemmers version is to encourage her to accept her greatness, and it is not deserving of her
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16 years ago
Rswinters
QuotegondolfI would say that Scientology fits the definition of a racket to a tee. Auditing is obviously the scientology version of heroin or crack. How come Rico has never been used to go after the Church? HuH? I am lost in what your saying here. Would you say it agian, in more simple language for me. I am sorry, but can't figure out what you are stating here.
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16 years ago
Rswinters
QuotegondolfWhat are the ideas behind scientology? This is a link to an official Scientology website where it gives a very lengthy detail of its doctrine. As I have been reading it myself. I find many, many similarities in the philosphy of both as a former graduate of all Klemmer & Associates seminars. Yes there are differences, but they are very minor in my opinion. The maj
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