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16 years ago
Rswinters
The Genesis Process Presented by Michael Dye, CADC, NCAC II WHAT IS THE GENESIS PROCESS? The Genesis Process is a systematic program designed to train professional and lay counselors in Relapse Prevention by treating the person first, the problem second. The core material, laid out in a comprehensive, ten-unit workbook, focuses on identifying and working through underlying issues tha
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16 years ago
Rswinters
Michael is a product of the sixties and seventies. Like so many others he got caught up in the search for the truth and the meaning of life. He spent twelve years studying and practicing many religions and philosophies. After becoming a Christian in 1979 his focus shifted to helping hurting and addicted people change. He wanted answers as to why people who were stuck in destructive compulsive beh
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16 years ago
Rswinters
STEPS MAGAZINE PRESENTS Relapse and the Brain by Michael Dye In very simplistic terms, we have two parts to our brains. The first part is the neocortex. It is located in the front of the head and receives and stores information for decision making and remembering. The other part is called the limbic system, which controls all the automatic systems of the body and the emotions. Most im
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16 years ago
Rswinters
I know this is not directly about Impact. But, please allow for this post to be placed here. I will keep any future posts on this aspect to the new topic I created on it. But it does affect LGAT's as a whole, and a tool that I have found for sucessfully deprogramming from an LGAT's influence... Here is my one post on Impacts thread that I will post on this matter. Thank you.
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16 years ago
Rswinters
Rswinters Senior Member Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 348 Posted: 08-06-2007 11:29 PM Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Save your money and avoid Klemmer. If you want to address core belief systems? Here you go... Rswinters Senior Member Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 342 Posted: 08-06-2007 11:26 PM P
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16 years ago
Rswinters
Rswinters Senior Member Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 348 Posted: 08-06-2007 11:29 PM Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Save your money and avoid Klemmer. If you want to address core belief systems? Here you go... Rswinters Senior Member Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 342 Posted: 08-06-2007 11:26 PM P
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16 years ago
Rswinters
Rswinters Senior Member Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 348 Posted: 08-06-2007 11:29 PM Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Save your money and avoid Klemmer. If you want to address core belief systems? Here you go... Rswinters Senior Member Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 342 Posted: 08-06-2007 11:26 PM P
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16 years ago
Rswinters
Well folks... Tomorrow is the last day of taking this seminar for me. Here is the link to what I have been involved in doing this past week... All I can say is whoa... I spent over 10 thousand dollars on all of Klemmer & Associates seminars and almost the past two years being indoctrinated with this New Age philosophy that also states that they confront core belief systems with
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
QuoteezdoesitYou might be interested to know the only topics to be hit consistently and continuously are the LGAT threads. Other topics seem not to attract such spam/porn. Things that make you go hmm....
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16 years ago
Rswinters
Now come now... Don't you know that these LGAT's are not responsible for how their participants apply the tools that they gained in these companies seminars? LOL... Its like trying to get a two year old to be accountable for eating his sisters candy without asking for permission... LGAT's are just tools... Yeah right. They create these types of people who choose to do
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16 years ago
Rswinters
I think this is one of those attacks that I have heard about in some of ricks posts.
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16 years ago
Rswinters
I think we made some people mad. The last two days have been an onslaught of spam on this particular thread about LGAT's. We made someone mad. Oh Yeah... Lets keep the truth coming out about these garbage LGAT's Rick will figure out how to resolve this attack... Let's keep sharing the truth...
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16 years ago
Rswinters
Save your money and avoid Klemmer. If you want to address core belief systems? Here you go... Rswinters Senior Member Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 342 Posted: 08-06-2007 11:26 PM Post subject: Klemmer & Associates claim of Christianity, and about Go -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you want to deal with the conc
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16 years ago
Rswinters
Rswinters Senior Member Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 342 Posted: 08-06-2007 11:26 PM Post subject: Klemmer & Associates claim of Christianity, and about Go -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you want to deal with the concept of core belief systems from a biblical stand point? Don't do Klemmers seminars. Even t
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16 years ago
Rswinters
If you want to deal with the concept of core belief systems from a biblical stand point? Don't do Klemmers seminars. Even though they claim God is the one they identify as the creator. It is new age theology, and is based alot on what you will find in Scientology. Here is a link to a very good resource that deals with core belief systems in a definitely biblical fashion. Plus it wil
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
I did a brief look at the link. It sounds New Age, and just a soft sell Large Group Awareness Training program that gets you sucked in by soft selling it in a different package. I see the same frame work of LGAT's at play here. Just a little softer in appearance is all. Here is a link, and copied page on the website you gave us. It sounds alot like my experience in Klemmer &
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16 years ago
Rswinters
This post is so good in so many ways. I am dealing with my counselor about my destructive narcissistic mother that I grew up with, and how she is still destructively so today. I am the one that responded as a rebel in my life to this family dynamic with my mother. The deep emotional woundedness of this aspect is also what drew me to the LGAT experience hoping to fix this gaping wound in me
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16 years ago
Rswinters
By the way. Brian Klemmer was mentored by the founder of PSI. So for you readers who are interested. Klemmer & Associates has its foundational roots in PSI and has alot of the same philosophy driving its seminars. Plus there are several faciltators who came from PSI over to Klemmer. I wanted to share this underbelly connection between the two companies.
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16 years ago
Rswinters
QuoteGhost DancerWell my wife ended up moving into a small apartment with another woman who also left her husband about the time she returned from PSI7. My wife still refuses to see this for what it is. She came over to the house to pick up the kids the other day driving a new car. My daughter came home from their visit and told me the wife financed it. I called the bank and found out she
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16 years ago
Rswinters
QuotePassionateYou'll get no argument from me that these same dynamics are used in all other trainings, and I am sure you experienced them at Klemmer. Not just Klemmer, but the many others also being shared on this website. Plus it goes alot deeper than just dynamics in comparison. Thanks for finally recognizing this aspect.
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16 years ago
Rswinters
Passionate. In case you are not aware. Todays posts are saying exactly what makes Impact a carbon copy of other LGAT's and visa versa.
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16 years ago
Rswinters
Klemmers approach to God being a genie in the universe for us to place our wishes with by the law of attraction misses the boat of what true biblical Christianity is, and is founded upon. Biblical Christianity is founded upon one aspect, and one aspect alone. It is what God did on the cross for mankind as he sacrificed his son for us, and rose him from the dead to create a pathway for us to b
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16 years ago
Rswinters
QuoterrmoderatorRswinters: Your contribution here has been considerable. "Passionate" seems to be a minority opinion on this. Please feel free to keep posting as much as you wish. The primary difference between the two LGATs seems to be the addition of certain religious beliefs. Isn't that so? Yes, it does the first levels seminars up to the one that focuses on "
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16 years ago
Rswinters
QuotePassionateRS, if you want to talk about Klemmer, please post on the Klemmer thread as this is the Impact thread. You are diluting this one. Yes, they are very very similar but there is a thread for your experience on the other one. I will adhere to the majority, and will do so if asked by them. I have been trying to share within the context of Impact, and the similarities. Before you
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16 years ago
Rswinters
Well folks. Klemmer & Associates are carbon copies of each other in the main thrust of their seminars. Where they part company is at the ending where Impact goes into the TIT mode, and Klemmer goes into the Mastermind mode. Mastermind is more founded on "The Secret" Philosophy. I stepped out at the beginning of my mastermind group being established. It was way too NEW A
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16 years ago
Rswinters
QuoteRswintersQuoteformerimpactgradI think the TIT III information is extremely relevant. TIT III is not a post group. It is actually administered and taught by the Impact Trainers and staff. It is run out of the center and is listed on their website as a training offered by the group. Okay, I am confused. Can someone post me a link to be able to read the layout of Impact seminars and thei
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
QuoteformerimpactgradI think the TIT III information is extremely relevant. TIT III is not a post group. It is actually administered and taught by the Impact Trainers and staff. It is run out of the center and is listed on their website as a training offered by the group. Okay, I am confused. Can someone post me a link to be able to read the layout of Impact seminars and their order? I
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16 years ago
Rswinters
QuotePassionateDoes anyone care to tell about a TIT III retreat they have been on? Like the one a few years ago where they 'released' the trapped spirits of a Pioneer slaughter in Central Utah? Is this really going to get this thread back on track of exposing Impact as an LGAT? Or, is it going to continue to shift the focus to one being the bizarreness of Impacts post grad groups ca
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16 years ago
Rswinters
QuoteSaneAgain I am wondering how many of the other lgats have a similar type of agenda, as you are suggesting Klemmer also has, and I suspect Quest South AFrica has. And is the quasi-religious stuff the real agenda (ie do they really believe this stuff themselves) or just something they exploit for the usual reasons of money and power, or because they run out of things to do to keep people in
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