What "formerimpactgrad" stated about Impact seems very similar with Klemmer & Associates also. Like the movie "The Secret" talks about. The law of attraction. These companies hopefully will attract their just rewards for all the harm they have caused society. I am not a impact graduate, but I did wasted almost two years and over 10 thousand dollars to have my
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Remember all. I have made all my message posts about Klemmer & Associates as a former participant that has taken all their seminars and even was a strong supporter as I staffed several of their seminars. So, I am not coming from a place of ignorance. But of one from personal experience and seeing very hard to ignore patterns with common themes in people dealing with these companies and
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Klemmer & Associates seems to be a company that has developed a very strong outer layer of protection from the truth of how destructive their seminars are. By using their loyal participants to do their dirty work. Such as protesting this site as I have read on wikipedia that seems to be afraid on allowing for negative experiences that some have had to be shared freely. Thanks Rick for
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From what I have been reading on these posts. Landmark and Klemmer seem to have alot of similarities. Klemmer is heavy into doing their seminars in the corporate world also.
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Rick I understand and know you needed to ban Jarl Moe for advertising. Yet it would of been interesting to watch him try to communicate his messed up viewpoints on this website where most people would be seeing right through his messed up philosphy. It has been very eye openning to read interactions where some have been showing up posting in support of LGAT's and in the process reveal t
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If this link doesn't work? I hope a moderator will do it correctly for people to use link to go to page. Thanks.
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Please give me how to get to abrahams forum... I am not sure how to do so. thanks
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"The Secret" philosophy seems to be the foundation for most of the LGAT's philosophy. People reading this thread of posts should be reading the rest of the threads on LGAT's topics. They are all connected and should be looked at from a broader perspective and scope when evaluating this movies subject matter. The law of attraction is apparent in life. What needs to be kept
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Humanism + Hedonism = non-judgement minus the accountability for how my behavior is not harming another. should read as follows Humanism + Hedonism = non-judgement minus the accountability for how my behavior is harming another. sorry, typo
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There are alot more posts about Klemmer and exposing this company on other threads. Search and read them. Very interesting and revealing posts to be read.
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I have been doing alot of questoning, and reading to help me sort out the mess of Klemmers brainwashing that I chose to apply to my life. Here is an equation that I believe addresses the overall philosphy of what I am hearing as the LGAT's goal to create in peoples lives. Humanism + Hedonism = non-judgement minus the accountability for how my behavior is not harming another. Klemmer
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Okay folks lets get this cleared out of the way before I explain what I am going to share here. I chose to attend seminar, I chose to sign waivers, I chose to participate, I chose, I chose. The list could go on. I am not removing my responsibility here. When I went through the second seminar called Advance Leadership Training I was placed in a situation where I was teamed up with a buddy
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As I have read all the various threads on LGAT's there is definitely a theme that rings true in all of them. LGAT's training no matter what company produces extreme narcisstic behavior in people. Which I have also come to recognize exists in each one of us at various levels. It is what was in me that was attracted to Klemmer thinking I could find a short cut to abundance in my
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So based on your post you believe that as long as some people are using the tools of LGAT'S to create good things in their lives. The destruction it is creating in alot of peoples lives is irrelevant and is not needing to be addressed. If this doesn't show the narcissism of LGAT's? What does? Klemmer & Associates has a bold statement of "building world leader
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I Said it was influenced by humanism. Which creates a self focus and a narcisstic mindset in most people who seem to embrace it in my opinion. Read the rest of the feeds and you will see a common theme with this arrogant mindset that seems to be very common with LGAT, Klemmerize, and whatever universal mindset you want ot apply here. The outcome on a persons life is what is being addressed
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You had me going. I had to read it a few times to sort out what you actually where saying. Exactly. Thats exactly the logic that gets embedded in your psyche in seminars like Klemmer. There is absolutely no reason to look at me and what I am doing that is harmful to relationships. Besides even if I do look at my responsibility in what I bring. Its all relative to perception anyway. Y
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Not sure how the rest of LGAT format is for other groups are but the outcome is the same. People buy into lock stock and barrel. While at the same time the philosphy taught and embedded in participants is the inability to label something wrong. Which is also embedded in Klemmer at the company level. Relationships are about boundaries and boundaries are about saying no to unwanted and un
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After I go to some professional counseling and sort some of the mess out. I will share some. Right now, its all fresh. This website really openned my eyes to the lies and deceptions that I knew in my gut was present in Klemmer. Now I know its not just my thinking that is messed up. There is validity to the things I been struggling with around Klemmer.
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All I can say is from my own experience. In my emotional unhealth I chose to ignore the meaning of a simple waiver that I signed before attending each of the 4 levels of seminars in Klemmer & Associates supposed leadership training seminars. This waiver released Klemmer from any liability that cound be connected to damages in a persons life specifically emotional damage. This in an
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I am like the rest of you. A former LGAT Grad. I went through the 4 levels of Klemmer & Associates seminars that spanned almost 2 years of my life. Thank God I have had my mind exposed to the truth also. Unfortunately like some of you have shared. I too have huge destruction in the wake of choosing to step into these mind control and delusional philosphies that are out there unchec
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I have been reading alot of postings from DiverGuy. Its amazing how he can't see how he is showing up with what he is addressing in others. Finally coming to my senses after destroying my life with applying Klemmer to my life. As I remove the cloud of Klemmerize from my mind. It is so apparent the relational destructiveness that gets enmeshed in a person who embraces Klemmer and its
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I have posted several postings on other threads. Look them up and read them. All I can say about Klemmer is that it is a humanism platform to enmesh people unknowingly in this destructive mindset. I was sucked into this mindset for almost 2 years and the destruction it brought in my life finally woke me up to this aspect. Klemmer chooses to remain in a place that is not accountable for
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Your very right. Klemmer is a platform for getting people enmeshed in a humanistic philosphy for living live. The application on my life has created such huge destruction. I chose to enmesh myself in Klemmer and finally came face to face with the destructiveness of this mindset on my life. Unfortunately it will now cost me large amounts of money and time to sort out and remove the humanis
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As a person who has gone through all the 4 seminars and applied these emotional tools in my life in a manner that has utterly destroyed it in all areas. I am amazed that it is so true that hindsight is 20/20. Klemmer & Associates will state that all they do is give people tools to use. How people use these tools is each persons choice and Klemmer is not responsible for how people a
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I have gone through all the seminars and the overall result of this influence on my life has been one of total destruction as I embraced what I believe to be a strong humanistic philosphy embedded in Klemmers seminars. Hind sight is always 20/20 and now looking back this past couple of years. I have identified where I embraced the humanistic element and was not even aware that I did. As I
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