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16 years ago
Rswinters
I want to apologize for my response to Moneytrainer's post. It got my blood boiling over the arrogance that was in it. That arrogance is definitely a button for me. I can see from the other responses, and looking at how long Moneytrainer has been a member with only 2 post during this time. Based on his posts that have been made. There is clearly a hidden agenda to his posts. T
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
Are you that hard hearted to be so arrogant in denying the destructiveness on many peoples lives by these LGAT's. Who cares if your life is working so grand. It would probably have worked well without Impacts influence upon you. This post of yours is typical in peoples responses who are ignorant, and insensitive to how some participants are not emotionally in a place that these LGAT
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
Not sure what happenned in your interpretation of what I have stated in these posts, and we don't need to dog each other on the differences. I researched out the Scientology angle that I felt was there, and gave my conclusion on my research. Which by the way is in agreement with what you are saying. There was a few leaps you took on what my views are in this post that are inaccurate.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
upsidedownnewspaper. I did not post to attack you here. I posted your post because it really did answer my questions I had around your post you made. It helped me understand where you are coming from. Hopefully you will understand where I am coming from too?
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
QuoteupsidedownnewspaperI disagree. It is not the philosophy at fault, it is the business model. We are all capable of thinking about life. Even the most staunch opponent of new age philosophy might have occasion to think momentarily that life is all good or everything is as it should be, or we all might be aliens...how about that! We are all free to cast our minds in these directions. T
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
QuoteupsidedownnewspaperI disagree. It is not the philosophy at fault, it is the business model. We are all capable of thinking about life. Even the most staunch opponent of new age philosophy might have occasion to think momentarily that life is all good or everything is as it should be, or we all might be aliens...how about that! We are all free to cast our minds in these directions. T
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
QuoteSaneAgainI also think they deliberate set up scapegoats and make jokes at their expense; even if the scapegoat ends up leaving, its a good lesson for the rest of the group and they don't mind losing one or two people to make a point. The losing them is also used to make a point of how they are not applying "it" as they should. Isn't it funny how this works... LOL...
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
It seems that I have hit a fork in the road on my research. Where I am at in my research is back where Scientology/Dianetics, EST, and PSI was birthed at. Which seems to be around the 1960's. Funny as you think about it. Look at all the bizarre things that where created, and established in the 1960's that has eroded our society and its moral fabric to what it is today. This is just
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
Rswinters Senior Member Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 255 Posted: 07-15-2007 05:08 PM Post subject: Klemmer & Associates seminar Heart of a Samurai... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yet another carbon copy excercise used in Impact Training seminars used by Klemmer. Here it is, with a few comments about it from me.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
Rswinters Senior Member Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 255 Posted: 07-15-2007 05:08 PM Post subject: Klemmer & Associates seminar Heart of a Samurai... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yet another carbon copy excercise used in Impact Training seminars used by Klemmer. Here it is, with a few comments about it from me.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
Yet another carbon copy excercise used in Impact Training seminars used by Klemmer. Here it is, with a few comments about it from me. Rswinters Senior Member Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 254 Posted: 07-15-2007 05:06 PM Post subject: Re: Life boat -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Disenchanted wrote: I have heard it menti
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
QuoteDisenchantedI have heard it mentioned several times on this thread that life boat, along with the arcs was one of the most damaging of all the processes. Would anyone be interested in relating their experience with this or experiences they witnessed in detail? I am just curious. My experience was very wierd. I was pretty much confused the entire time. I remember that my brain was goin
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
QuoteON2 LFWe really are our own worst enemy aren't we? Sometimes I wonder if it is just simple ignorance that makes us so susceptible to the conmen/women of this world or if its just the endless inner vacuum we all seem to have until we've found something (or someone) to fill it with. In my opinion this inner vacuum we all have is what I see as the aspect that these LGAT's feed
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
I have posted the previous two parts. Here is the recent one for you to watch. Enjoy, because Klemmers last seminar Samurai Camp is founded on this philospy. You will buy into this philosphy as you choose to attend Klemmers seminars. It is a set up from the start. You will be confronted with your core belief systems in a shock and awe manner. Then you will be primed and ready for the bait a
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
The Secret's David Schirmer Exposed - PART THREE
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
Hey will everyone do me a huge favor. When you make really good comments on LGAT's in General to post on Klemmers thread also. For that matter. I think for the most part you can substitute Klemmer for Impact on all posts and it would not make a difference. At least what I have been reading. There are a few differences in names of seminars, and the shell of seminar makeup on the surf
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
OOPS... typo... should of read thank you for covering my hindend as you have identified Klemmers hindent that sticks out... Guess, I need to proof read my posts better... LOL...
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
QuoteRswintersQuoteexImpactOh, come now RsW! I know you like to avoid cursing, but not even a "LOL" out of you for me calling them "Klemmer and Asses" all this time? I've been doing it for YOU my friend! :D It is not that I don't agree... LOL I just prefer to watch my own language. I do slip from time to time, and Klemmer are ****. I just prefer not to be t
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
QuoteexImpactOh, come now RsW! I know you like to avoid cursing, but not even a "LOL" out of you for me calling them "Klemmer and Asses" all this time? I've been doing it for YOU my friend! :D It is not that I don't agree... LOL I just prefer to watch my own language. I do slip from time to time, and Klemmer are ****. I just prefer not to be the one saying
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
corboy Moderator Joined: 19 Jun 2002 Posts: 744 Posted: 07-13-2007 07:22 AM Post subject: To Understand One LGAT is to Understand All or Most LGATs -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RSwinters wrote: Quote: I for one have found each and every LGAT topic thread very good information for all LGAT's. This is impo
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
corboy Moderator Joined: 19 Jun 2002 Posts: 744 Posted: 07-13-2007 07:22 AM Post subject: To Understand One LGAT is to Understand All or Most LGATs -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RSwinters wrote: Quote: I for one have found each and every LGAT topic thread very good information for all LGAT's. This is impo
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
corboy Moderator Joined: 19 Jun 2002 Posts: 744 Posted: 07-13-2007 07:22 AM Post subject: To Understand One LGAT is to Understand All or Most LGATs -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RSwinters wrote: Quote: I for one have found each and every LGAT topic thread very good information for all LGAT's. This is impo
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
corboy Moderator Joined: 19 Jun 2002 Posts: 744 Posted: 07-13-2007 07:22 AM Post subject: To Understand One LGAT is to Understand All or Most LGATs -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RSwinters wrote: Quote: I for one have found each and every LGAT topic thread very good information for all LGAT's. This is impo
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
corboy Moderator Joined: 19 Jun 2002 Posts: 744 Posted: 07-13-2007 07:22 AM Post subject: To Understand One LGAT is to Understand All or Most LGATs -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RSwinters wrote: Quote: I for one have found each and every LGAT topic thread very good information for all LGAT's. This is impo
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
QuoteexImpactQuoterrmoderatorPhilips: There you go again. The reason some critics repeat themselves is most often because apologists raise the same defenses over and over again. fatherof3 is listed as an active member. BTW--"Philips" you are banned for breaking the rules, by posting under more than one name (aka "Otter"). Thanks for illustrating how Impact devot
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
QuotePhilipsFormerimpact wrote: QuoteI'm quite certain that many current trainees would call my posts or even the entire thread complete garbage, but what makes you think that any of the regulars on this thread care in the least what a brainwashed and conditioned trainee thinks about what is going on here? That is my whole point. If you don't care then they won't listen. The
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
QuoteSaneAgainQuoteImpact is no different from Klemmer and Asses LOL!!!!! :lol: Did I do a typo? If so, I am sorry. I don't like to swear and it was done unintentionally if I did so. It should have been Associates and not *****.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
This by far is the most clearly stated post about LGAT effects that I have read so far. Thank you. QuotecorboyRSwinters wrote: QuoteI for one have found each and every LGAT topic thread very good information for all LGAT's. This is important. Because...nearly all human potential groups/LGATs claim to be unique. A very important step in recovery takes place when it is possible
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
Please open up the thread topic a little bit in scope please. I for one have found each and every LGAT topic thread very good information for all LGAT's. Even though my LGAT experience was in Klemmer & Associates. I see Klemmer in each and every LGAT thread on here. As a matter of fact, it is as if I am reading about Klemmer in many of these posts on company techniques and
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
QuotePhilipsOne thing that does seem clear is that a certain percentage of trainees had a bad experience and speaking out and informing potential trainees who visit here is a good goal. Inform them and let them decide for themselves. If even one is harmed by an LGAT. It is too many. So, Philips. What brings you to this website? Why are you here? Seems like you may not like the taste of
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