QuotezeebrookQuote: Zeebrook: Dr Wall stated emphatically that R.B. Thieme Jr "is a Christian brother well within the circle of orthodox. Truthtesty: He did not "emphatically" state that. That is your emphasis. Unquote Let's examine that. Dr Wall says of Thieme in this thesis (http://www.texaswalls.org/immys/pdfs/thieme_by_joe_wall.pdf) that he: Quote still withi
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Hi mvan6766, YOu put it very well! This is a struggle which all of us who have left Thieme's teachings go through. We leave the "cultic" group, but a lot of it remains with us for a long, long time. We learn to distrust all our perceptions at first, but after a while, we will get our bearings and begin to relearn truth. You are quite right that it makes you question everything y
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Hi mvan6766, Welcome to this group. I am glad you joined and gave us your testimony re Thieme. The effects on family is an aspect of living the Thieme type life that often goes unmentioned except in generalities. Thanks for making your specific remarks in that regard. It is helpful to warn others with this t ype information. It is almost inconceivable that your parents did not attempt to ret
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Well, surprisingly, the larger print helps me to understand better..... Sisterosap
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Hi prebound, Some ministries give away literature and others charge something for it. It is not like they are rolling in illegal dough. Though some high profile 'ministries' make a big deal of their propserity teachings and show it through extravagant living, not even their 501 c3 tax exemption status seems at risk. Though give Obama time. That too may be history sooner then we can n
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Well I see the forum is FINALLY back up. Or at least AVAILABLE. I have not been able to reach it for at least two weeks. Have others had trouble also? I kept getting results that said CANNOT FIND THIS PAGE ON THIS SERVER. Good to be back. Sistersoap
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Hey prebound, I begin to think the wrong "fairy tale" is being referenced in the last few posts....It is beginning to seem like DON QIXOTE to me. I believe some of the major players here tilt at windmills sometimes when they would do better to deal with real issues. I believe you when you say you are not defending Thieme. Failing to use QUOTATION MARKS to suit Testy is not a reli
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TO THE REPORTER: Re your evolution remarks. I found a number of errors in the contents of your long post re evolution, but because that is not Thieme related I don't think I can offer further discussion on them. Of course, Thieme never taught that evolution was compatible with the Bible that I know of so perhaps it is a moot point for this thread. Regarding the "atheism" reto
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Thanks for the correction, Testy. Sistersoap
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I thought the name of the Thieme book Sodini mentioned or at least the article mentioned was THE INTEGRITY OF GOD, not CHRISTIAN INTEGRITY. Which is it? Sistersoap
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QuotethereporterSistersoap, A joke. I make them often. A line I heard a long time ago from a College prankster...Just a joke and word play to emphasis who knows? Yes, the Frenchman budding existentialist with healthy pagan influences was arguing there was no such thing as right or wrong until... There was NO MORE WINE????? WRONG!!!! (lol) I am knew to the forum so not familiar with
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TO THE FORUM: RE SODINI, THIEME'S MEMORIAL SERVICE: Earlier in this message board, I asked if anyone had anything more to contribute on the subject of GEORGE SODINI as a former Thieme follower. For those who don't know, he was the guy in Pittsburgh who shot up that L.A. FITNESS center and killed several women and injured a number of others. He had left his "local" version o
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Quoterrmoderatorsistersoap: You are going at it again. You need to stop it. BTW--Orthodox Jews type God G-d. But then that isn't in any way relevant to this thread. Thieme is the topic here. Kindly show me how I am going at "it" again. I was talking to the reporter in response to one of his posts. Am I to ignore him, too? He responded to me re the "-od" t
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QuotethereporterTruthtesy, Thank you as I have much to sift through and appreciate the re-post. To The Forum: I will be continuing commentary but it will surround current events regarding Sodoni and Interest Groups that are asking, even pleading, for information regarding Theime's influence on Sodoni's mindset. The interest groups are women of course and Sodoni's racist a
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QuotethereporterNow Sistersoap, I have seen variations in the gadget age. Maybe he's Jewish. Maybe he is a Messianic Jew who does it a little different to distinguish. Maybe he is a budding existentialist with healthy pagan influences. Maybe he is BBing and doesn't want to hit Shift to Capitalize the G so "-od". Maybe he is a Christian who purposely takes the G out of G
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Quoteorangeperuviscachathereporter, Thanks for your thoughts on the matter. Ron Henzel wrote a couple of paragraphs on early Gnosticism and its parallels today:- (perform a text search for "Gnostic") Hello Orange, Thanks for this useful website on SPIRITUAL ABUSE. I was surprised to see the background on the home page looking like wallpaper covered in what appeared to be mar
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QuotethereporterSistersoap, -od is a deference paid to Our Creator. It is a practice that many employ which maintains a humility regarding -od by not writing God. As many treat God with such casualness as to disrespect a personal practice which honors Him in spirit. "The fear (respect) of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom and knowledge of the Holy One... I wear a dancer charm, stre
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QuotetruthseekIntresting post Truthseeker. Where do you live, if you don't mind saying? Truthtesty Truthseek says: I prefer not to say where I live on the forum because I have a family member who idolizes Bob Thieme. I am pretty sure that if they saw this forum and identified me from my postings it would be the end of my relationship with them. The involvement of my family in
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TO THE FORUM: Is there any more news on Sodini and the Thieme connection? Sistersop
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Hi thereporter, Thanks. I just thought up BRAIN SALAD. Did not know it was part of a group or band. I will address you by the name you chose. You use of language is unique to say the least. Just write the way you normally would. If I need help understanding something, I will ask you. Once again, thanks for your posts, and you are welcome here. Sistersoap
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Hi prebound, Thanks for your testimony. Each time someone tells his story here re Thieme it helps us all, no matter if he is totally sold out to RBT or if he is firmly against Thieme's teachings. And thanks for the connection to Grace Bible Church. The Berean Bible Society has some awesome information on thier web site. VERY HELPFUL to me in dealing with thieme and others. Cheers,
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QuotethereporterSistersoap, Thank you for the sophomoric welcome, necessity of a nickname and all. I doubt any attorney would say on the cross examination "To question someone is not an attack." thereporter To thereporter, it was a jest. you are totally welcome here. Your first post was very difficult to understand and by the time I was finished reading it, I realized we m
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QuoteTruthtestyQuotesistersoap Anyone can get Dr. Wall's dissertation FOR FREE. You did not obtain it at any cost and pass it on to us freely, as you said. Sistersoap To sister: This is a lie. You know it is a lie. You had no idea what happened in reality. You just made the bluff up to fit your vitriolic embittered attack on me. You discredit yourself. If you had integrity you would apolo
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Welcome, thereporter, I think I am going to nick name you BRAIN SALAD. Sistersoap
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CONTINUED TO TRUTHSETSUFREE FROM SISTERSOAP: FROM TRUTHSETSUFREE: I came to realize is antinomianism in germ form. My desire was not growing in holiness but rather a pseudomaturinty through intake of Bible doctrine, blah, blah, blah. What is tricky is that his exegesis of 1Jn. 1.9 is pretty good. {{{I don't know about his exegesis. I am not qualified to judge it. But I don't n
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Continued reply to Truthsetsufree: Thieme denies this truly finished crosswork by saying that God forgives all your presalvation sins at salvation, but does not forgive your post salvation sins until and unless you confess each and every one. This sets up a false dichotomy between old sins and new, and it is a double standard which denies the many clear Scriptures which say God punished Chris
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Hello Truthsetsufree: I will intersperse my comments below within brackets. Like so: {{{xxx}}} They are long and may need more than one post to complete. Cheers, Sistersoap QuotetruthsetsufreeSistersoap, Yes. Egregious teaching, especially done in the spirit of arrogance is very sad to say the least. In what ways do you minister to those who are heavily influence with this ministry
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QuoteTruthtestyTo rr moderator and Forum: One of us is lying and calling the other one a liar. So? Sister answer the false allegation you made an false attack on me with. Tell us how your false allegation is true. What led you to believe (along with your supposed non-troll buddy Zeebrook who also said that I was "less than honest" about this also, so that is another person attacking
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Quoterrmoderatorsistersoap: Please move on. I will watch for any additional insults on other side. SEE THE POST HERE August 26, 2009 11:46AM THAT YOU LET THROUGH IN SPITE OF YOUR PROMISE TO "WATCH OUT" FOR More on this "series." I don't trust you.
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Quoterrmoderatorsistersoap: Please move on. I will watch for any additional insults on other side. Well Mr. Moderator, I hope you do a better job of it than you have been doing. It underwhelms me. He seems to be untouchable and I am really really tired of it. It isn't good for this forum. It is very frustrating to be unable to answer Testy's charges against me and him be al
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