VOLTAIC SAID: This is actually what my very first post on this forum said: that each of us should examine our own consciences when making statement as are made here. QUESTIONS: 1. Now that you have delivered your message to all of us here, not just to Testy, what else useful do you have to say to us? 2. Since you are so solicitous of our moral condition, what about all the other forums t
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MsR07 siad: Hello everyone. I'm a 19 year old female and I just joined after reading some of these discussions. (Brace yourselves because this post has nothing of substance other than to describe my recent questioning of these principles.) I have been raised on what I've come to refer to as "Bible Doctrine," under Colonel Thieme, and that's all I've ev
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TO THE MODERATOR, or anyone else who can answer my question. The last two weekends, Sundays mostly I have been unable to get any page of Rick Ross web site. In addition, I no longer receive any notices in my email inbox that posts have been added to this thread, and I am SURE that I signed up for this service. Up until last weekend I received a notice every time soneone added a post to the th
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EZDOSIT you said: QuoteezdoesitIf you have a "View" tab on your toolbar, the drop-down menu should offer to increase or decrease the size of the text. It's easy to see how these groups prey on people by offering a "family," "friends," and a social group. Have you tried something like Craigslist to see if there are any others near y
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Hi EmeraldTryst Thanks for advice about text size. I just tried the drop down menu on my tool bar, and selected larger size text, but nothing changed. Do I have to restart or something? Is this supposed to change the size of the print on this forum message board? Thanks for all ideas!
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THIEMITE SAID: Quote"thiemite"voltaic, Welcome to the forum. You may get all sorts of replies to your assertions ranging from mild to wild. As has been suggested, you should definitely be more specific rather than general so specifics may be addressed. A lot of the posters on this thread are people that believe and have demonstrated how they have been adversely affe
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SPIRITUALIBERTY SAID: quote="SpiritualLiberty"]QuotesistersoapAs I was reading in Romans this morning I came across Rom 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; I know this verse is used by some to claim partial forgiveness. I know
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TESTY ASKS: My sister until recently you have said nothing for what almost a year (09-25-06). Now you have plenty to say. Where have you been? You said: I still think the Pope has more influence on WORLD economic events than is generally believed, after all his church IS ALSO A STATE that sends and receives ambassadors, AND the Papacy takes great credit to itself for creating conditions a
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You have some nerve coming in here rebuking people who have been severely traumatized by SERIOUS FALSE TEACHING for many years, and so delicately refusing to quote the things you say are unchristian of us to say about a fellow believer! I AM CHEWING NAILS AND GETTING READY TO SPIT! What about the Scriptures that tell us to REBUKE AND EXPOSE THE ERROR and the ERRANT ONE. Thieme WAS NOT ONE t
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You asked me what I thought about the authority structure you laid out. All I saw was some Bible verses. What is the YLT? Never heard of it. As for what authority we are to be under TODAY, that is what JESUS TOLD PAUL TO GIVE US. Peter's place is with the TWELVE who will eventually rule on 12 thrones over the 12 tribes of Israel with Christ on the Literal throne of David in literal Jerus
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Dear Testy, My comments back to you are in {{{xxx}}} below. YOU SAID: I wonder what Schwarz would say today about the US corporations who do business day to day with Communist China (ie. sending American jobs overseas, Walmart, etc...). I wonder what Schwarz would say today about the US government borrowing money from Communist China to the point where Communist China now holds 9% all o
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Hi Testy, I am going through this forum and catching up. I don't know if someone else has answered this post after page sixteen where I am at present, so please excuse me if they have..... YOU SAID: Quote"Truthtesty"To brainout: Joint (860) (haphe from hápto = to connect, adjoin) refers to a juncture or point of contact of one part of body with another. Joints or p
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Hi Testy, I have been going slowly through all the posts in this Thieme thread. Sometimes I just have to stop and offer a challenge or a comment. YOU SAID: In part 03-24-2007 10:32 AM I could not wait to become a "Army Ranger, Marine Corps Recon or Navy Seal" So I could die for the honor of the United States, christianity, Berachah and my family and especially to b
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HI Testy, YOU SAID: Your welcome. Thankyou for your contribution. It's sounds as if Shwarz knew how to intelligently distinguish between logic and predjudice. Yes, and he was always a gentleman about his activities too. He had genuine compassion on communists because they had been deceived by their leaders into believing they were on a moral crusade but without God, and their n
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Thank you Truth Testy!
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HI Liberty, Thanks for your reply. I have heard from some former tapers that they did just what the child in the confessional did in your example. They either made something up that they did not do, or they ACTUALLY DID SOMETHING OR COMMITTED SOME MENTAL SIN so they could confess it and get back 'in fellowship." Now if that isn't using sin to make grace abound I don'
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QuoteTruthtestyTo Sistersoap: The source for the several active tours after WWII-1961 is the book "Robert B. Thieme, JR. - His Ancestry, His Life" by C. G. Hunt. Hunt says he acquired this information by the Freedom of Information Act from the National Personnel Records Center St. Louis, Mo. Truthtesty THANK YOU TESTY TRUTH! Sistersoap
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Does anyone here remember the PSALM 119 TAPE SERIES of Thieme's? It seems to have disappeared. I recently told someone about this series and how it fits in the RBT SYSTEM: One of the most FEAR PRODUCING SERIES OF MESSAGES messages Bob Thieme ever gave was early on and it was Old Testament. It was on Psalm 119. The reason it was so scary was this: Bob taught this was an account of capti
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I started a new topic CALLED LONELINESS OUTSIDE THE CULT thinking it would show up in this thread, the R.B.THIEME JR. thread. But it is a whole different thread. I would be happy for you to comment HERE since it is the Thieme "cult" I am speaking of. Here is what I said: Dear Friends on this Board, What do you do when you want to talk to someone about Thieme and your li
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Dear Friends on this Board, What do you do when you want to talk to someone about Thieme and your life before during and after? How do you find someone to talk to about it? It is very hard to do. It seems the people around me don't want to hear it. They seem to think that talking about it should be OVER with once you leave. NOT SO. I have spent a lot of time the last week or so reviewin
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Hi TestyTruth, Thanks for the update. Dr.Fred Schwarz was an Australian medical doctor who came to the USA to start a ministry to communists. He named his orgainzation the Christian Anti Communism Crusade JUST THAT WAY. He wanted Communists to know he was not against them as PERSONS, as HUMAN BEINGS. Schwarz was a deep researcher who read the communits literature in its original publications and
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Hello Liberty, I have learned some things from you that I never saw until now. The horrifying consequences of Thieme's rebound beliefs ~~ the way you expressed yourself made it so clear where the real problem lies. You have a tremendous grasp of what should be obvious, but which cannot be obvious to people stuck in the THIEMEPARK as I call it. I am so glad I left. It took years after l
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QuoteSpiritualLibertyPROOF TEXTS are vital, to them and to me. Bible IS proof text, Heb4:12, 1Jn4:1-6. Oh, I'm citing again, as I'm required to do in order to demonstrate the location of a doctrine. Sorry. brainout, In your response, you ignored the second half of my sentence: “Much like Galiban, you like to make statements followed by a string of ‘prooftexts,’ but you do nothin
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Your testimony is typical of many who have left the thiemepark. It is sad but true that families who are faithful to Thieme having a family member who leaves are very intolerant of that person, so I completely understand your reluctance. Poker face is exactly what is required to survive! Thanks for sharing your thoughts....It sounds as if you are indeed happy and free.
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Dear Happy and Free, I certainly understand your reluctance in revealing your identity. When I first started to investigate Thieme on the Internet and found some courageous testimonies of those who had left, no matter what the consequences, I was greatly encouraged in my faith in the Word of God and in my instincts to HOLD THE TEACHER RESPONSIBLE for the effects of his teaching on his audience
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Hello! This is my first post on this forum. I am looking forward to the conversation. I was a faithful follower of Thieme for almost thirty years. I am free now, and love it. Thieme took a few good ideas and ran off a cliff with them, running his church as if it were his platoon.....Not biblical in my estimation. His use of the overhead projector was original when he began. Using scr
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