QuoteIrritatedI am curious about this subject, is there anyone that is totally familiar with RB Thieme page to sum up the 139 pages for someone new? That is a whole bunch of reading haha. Thank you. Just a basic recap would be great! Hello, Irritated, Thanks for asking! If you are totally UNFAMILIAR with Thieme, what brought you here? I might also add that the posts of SpirituaLiberty
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GATE 9: PSYCHOPATHIC ARROGANCE Thieme's article, continued QUOTE: {repeat from previous post} 7) Reaching the point of using the problem solving devices is what causes the break with unreality. COMMENT: Thieme declares here and elsewhere that KNOWING AND USING these "PROBLEM SOLVING DEVICES" remedy what is wrong....here, the "break with reality" of the psy
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GATE 9, PSYCHOPATHIC ARROGANCE Thieme article, continued: QUOTE: L. Under the law of antithetical arrogance (SDB), a person reacts arrogantly in one state of unreality, and loved ones react in arrogance in the opposite way, so that no one ever reaches a solution. COMMENT: He just made that up, didn't he? THE LAW of antithetical arrogance? I would say it is a mutual exclusiona
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GATE 9: PSYCHOPATHIC ARROGANCE Thieme article, continued: QUOTE: K. The road to recovery demands certain things that will make recovery possible. 1) Proper medication prescribed by a competent doctor. 2) Taking the prescribed medication properly and consistently. 3) The consistent use of rebound for cosmic one involvement. 4) Constant yieldedness to God the Holy Spirit
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GATE 9: PSYCHOPATHIC ARROGANCE article by Thieme continued: QUOTE: C. Once locked-in arrogance (SDB) occurs, the believer enters a state of mental disorder, sometimes gradually, sometimes rapidly. D. In a psychotic state, by definition, the believer can no longer recover through spiritual means. He has crossed the line, and first requires psychiatric treatment. 1) Whereas the implemen
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THIEME ARTICLE CONTINUED GATE 9 PSYCHOPATHIC ARROGANCE QUOTE: 9. Psychopathic persons are abnormal, and therefore, spiritually abnormal, and some are extremely sensitive, making them susceptible to religious emotion. 10. A religiously emotional environment is provided by well-meaning believers who themselves manifest the arrogance of ignorance, or blind arrogance, being ignorant of sou
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THIEME ARTICLE CONTINUED: GATE 9 PSYCHOPATHIC ARROGANCE I might add that the previous last quote from Thieme, saying: quote: F. Quite often, people who are psychopathic are driven there by arrogant people, especially by people who are arrogantly self-righteous. end quote reminds me of my own struggles with what I finally came to see as ARROGANT SELF RIGHTEOUS LEGALISM of the entire Thie
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NOTE TO THOSE WHO CAME IN IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS SERIES: Here is how Thieme began this article: You can find it at: June 23, 2008 07:27AM page 137 OF THIS THREAD: QUOTE: GATE #9: PSYCHOPATHIC ARROGANCE Text: James 1:8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways. (KJV) (Any person involved in psychopathic arrogance is a double-minded person.) Introduction Some
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THIEME ARTICLE with comments continued: GATE 9: PSYCHOPATHIC ARROGANCE I would like to devote hours and hours researching the REAL authorities on these psychological/psychiatric terms and conditions but I don't have the time or the expertise. Perhaps someone better qualified or with more time can deal with this aspect of what Thieme is apparently saying in this article. But this is v
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GATE 9 PSYCHOPATHIC ARROGANCE article by THIEME continued: My Note: Isn’t it amazing that the cosmos (world) is calling these symptoms mental disorders. COMMENT: From the way the foregoing is written, it sounds as if THIEME IS CALLING THESE "symptoms" MENTAL DISORDERS....and I believe any ordinary reader could be excused for thinking that, even someone totally unfamiliar with
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BACK TO THIEME'S ARTICLE ON GATE 9: PSYCHOPATHIC ARROGANCE B. In the manic phase, the believer may be very self-righteous, very self-satisfied, and even arrogantly aggressive. 1) He may be childish, proud, intolerant of criticism, irrepressible, uninhibited, effusive, and often unconventional in speech and manner. 2) Such a person may court the limelight as boastful, flippant, arg
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CONTINUING THIEME ARTICLE GATE 9: PSYCHOPATHIC ARROGANCE 7. Considering the psychopathic personality, particularly, the manic-depressive (SDB) personality: A. Arrogance as a catalyst in manic-depressive psychosis is obvious. COMMENT: How so? Where is this proven or even cited in works of those qualified to comment? This is typical of THIEME'S DICTA which NO ONE following him q
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THIEME'S ARTICLE GATE 9: PSYCHOPATHIC ARROGANCE CONTINUED: Body of Text There is one other important note that should be considered before beginning the body of this document: Distinguish between organic disease (SDB)* that leads to neurotic and psychotic mental disorders and mental disorders whose source is the locked-in arrogance (SDB) associated with cosmic one, gate #1, wh
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CONTINUING THIEME'S ARTICLE ON GATE 9: PSYCHOPATHIC ARROGANCE Consider the following definitions: Integrated: The bringing together of the various parts or functions so that the various parts function as a harmonious whole. Application: These characteristics should not be viewed as independent contractors. They WORK as a team. Unified: to make into a unit; cause to become one; u
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THIEME'S ARTICLE CONTINUED: GATE 9: PSYCHOPATHIC ARROGANCE There are two basic reasons why any person will fail to manifest an integrated, unified, cohesive personality: (1) ignorance of the mechanics (how to) of producing an integrated, unified, cohesive personality; and (2) willful disobedience manifested by knowing the particular fruit of the Spirit that needs to be applied, but choos
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Thanks for clarifying it for me. I agree that Ironside supports exposing error and false teaching anywhere they crop up in the body of christ. If IS the job of EVERY Christian to rebuke and expose false teaching. Just as you would expect the city to put up warning signs for large pot holes and bridges which are weak or failing ahead, so you would expect Christians to speak up about error, and
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Hello Mile 2 I am a little puzzled. Does the Ironside quote favor the silence in public upon finding error or false teaching or not? Don't think it does. I presume the point in posting it was to justify public rebuke or exposure of false teachers, or teachers who teach some false things. Nowadays, the "local flock" is no longer just in one spot in ministries such as Bereac
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TO THE FORUM, THIEME'S ARTICLE ON GATE 9: PSYCHOPATHIC ARROGANCE CONTINUED: I left off with THIEME SAYING: Normalcy is the constant condition and manifestation of spiritual maturity in a Church Age believer’s life. COMMENT: The conclusion is inevitable that NORMAL is being SPIRITUALY MATURE. This demand is paramount in Thieme's system, and he has repeated it throughout his yea
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CONTINUING THIEME'A ARTICLE ON PSYCHOPATIHIC ARROGANCE, topic IMMATURE BELIEVERS ARE PSYCHOTIC QUOTE: Normalcy[ is the condition of the function of the normal spiritual life. Since there are three stages of development in the Christian life, namely, babyhood, adolescence, and maturity, normalcy is only experienced by the babe and adolescent on those occasions when they are meeting the
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TO THE FORUM, continuing on THIEME'S PSYCHOTIC ARROGANCE ARTICLE re IMMATURE BELIEVERS ARE PSYCHOTIC Well, folks, are you NORMALLY ABNORMAL, neurotically abnormal, or psychotically abnormal? It isn't a joke! He is serious. Just what does NORMALLY ABNORMAL MEAN, anyway? One thing Thieme said and ASSUMED was this: Since human history and human life are about resolving a spiritua
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PSYCHOTIC ARROGANCE ARTICLE by Thieme part of my search for Thieme's assertion that IMMATURE BELIEVERS ARE PSYCHOTIC Let's begin with the beginning offered by Thieme in this example of his thinking and teacing style: HE SAYS: Text: James 1:8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways. (KJV) (Any person involved in psychopathic arrogance is a double-minded person.)
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Quoteorangeperuviscachaback after a break. Basically, the idea of spiritual maturity within this system can be boiled down to... "There is an outside threat waiting at the door (commies, hippies, russia, liberals, etc. etc. - place Thieme Jr's pet devil here). If you don't make it to spiritual maturity (i.e. keep listening to tapes, or come to Berachah every night we are open
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PREVIOUS POST CONTINUED....on PSYCHOPATIC ARROGANCE by Thieme Body of Text 1. Psychopathic (SDB) arrogance is a volitional drive toward unreality. 2. Under normal conditions, the emotions of the soul are under the control and domination of the mentality of the soul. 3. Normally, a person’s emotions blend with his mentality so that his emotional life does not disrupt his ability to
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VARIOUS KINDS OF ARROGANCE, GATES.... RE IMMATURE BELIEVERS ARE PSYCHOTIC GATE #9: PSYCHOPATHIC ARROGANCE Text: James 1:8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways. (KJV) (Any person involved in psychopathic arrogance is a double-minded person.) Introduction Some might want to call what I’m going to say a “breakthrough” in an understanding of some facet of Scriptur
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TO THE FORUM, especially TESTY and ORANGE re IMMATURE BELIEVERS BEING PSYCHOTIC I am having such a hard time running this down. I wonder if it would be easier if I wrote or called BERACHAH for their help? Surely they would remember something like this. Meanwhile, in looking over some things, Orange, you sent me several documents about ARROGANCE and I recall that in those there were some
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Hi Orange, Did you perhaps send me the item about IMMATURE BELIEVERS BEING PSYCHOTIC? I can't find my printed out version, I know I have it SOMEWHERE, but can't find it any time soon. Same with my records on my hard drive. It has to be there somewhere, but I am still not 100% reorganized since changing Internet Providers. I will keep looking because it is important. It is so fru
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Hi Orange, I am looking for it now. I think it was a post on this thread somewhere.... Sis
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Hi Testy, Thanks for your answer. It was very hard for me to read the teensy green letters, but I think I got it all anyway. I believe I recall the IMMATURE BELIEVERS ARE PSYCHOTIC from some posts on this thread. I printed them out because it was so extraordinary. He kept saying basically the same thing over and over with few changes, yet thought each new "doctrine" was NEW, when it
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Hi Testy, thanks for your reply to me given below....My comments are in {{{{xxx}}}. Cheerfully, Sistersoap QuoteTruthtestySistersoap TO TRUTH TESTY re the EEG test for human life and the Thieme based beliefs Well, that was not all they said, but telling me that the life in the womb was simply "reflex motility" settled the issue for them because that was what Thieme taught them,
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HI TESTY, YOU SAID: re LIFE IN THE WOMB and EEGs Truthtesty: Hey Sis, Who is the originator of that statement? I dare that person to show thier face here. ---->>>That just shows the public, how much of a "locked in" cult mindset they have, totally impervious <<<--- RESPONSE: You said it. Locked in to whatever Thieme says on the tape or in the pulpit. An
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